What are the regulations for a local?

[Derek M]

Hi there,

I wish to hold a local Isaan Concert with live music, in the village with music until 3am. I will be holding the concert in the village and not outside of it, to say residential area.

Question:

What are the local (Roi Et Provence) and national laws regarding permissions and licences for such an event?

Will I be allowed to have music until 3am? if not what is the latest time?

At what time must I turn off music i.e latest time?

At what hour must the event be cleared (i.e with zero people there)?

Thank you kindly in advance.

[CharlieH]

Wrong forum

MOVED to Isaan

[puchooay]

Go to your local district office. They will let you know and they will issue you with a permission notice.

[Derek M]

Wrong forum

MOVED to Isaan

Thank you kindly. I placed the topic in General forum as it is a location independent question. Only incidental that the planned concert is in Isaan region. Perhaps other planning an event may be interested or knowledgeable.

Go to your local district office. They will let you know and they will issue you with a permission notice.

Was/I am hoping to avoid a long trip there as I am very busy with other things over next week or so. Thank you for your reply.

[Mrjlh]

Most provinces have a 'Midnight" curfew for concerts and not one minute more. Each type of event has it's own guidelines. You need to be business to go beyond that time and 2 AM is the law although some don't obey it. Beyond midnight you welcome and invite the wrath of the community. Go to your local Police Office and they will send you to the correct office in that village.

[SlyAnimal]

Was/I am hoping to avoid a long trip there as I am very busy with other things over next week or so. Thank you for your reply.

Shouldn't be a long trip? As you should only need to goto your local Amphur office, not to Roiet city itself.

[Derek M]

Was/I am hoping to avoid a long trip there as I am very busy with other things over next week or so. Thank you for your reply.

Shouldn't be a long trip? As you should only need to goto your local Amphur office, not to Roiet city itself.

Thank you.

[lostinisaan]

Get in touch with the "Pujaybaan" of the village, they're usually aware of how to "organize such an event"

There're plenty of Morlam music bands with dancers and I'd definitely use my wife's name to do that. Will save you money and hassle.

The police has to be present as well, because quite often people start fighting, some even come with a gun to such an event.

One "annoying part might be the interaction of Army guys these days.

You can also pay a catering company for the whole set up, regarding food, tables, drinks, etc....

Wish you best of luck !

[puchooay]

Who is "pujaybaan"? 55555

[martin501]

Who is "pujaybaan"? 55555

My ko jay

[kamalabob2]

Puchooay : "Who is "pujaybaan"?" That is just a different spelling for the elected official you might call a mayor in a small town in your country. The advise other posters have given you are well worth consideration and better to have the right papers and permission prior to your event. The fees are nominal if done in advance, the "payments" if you do not have the papers and permission after the fact or during the event are much higher. LostinIsaan must have done this sort of event and has steered you in the right direction. Enjoy a pleasant evening.

[lostinisaan]

Puchooay : "Who is "pujaybaan"?" That is just a different spelling for the elected official you might call a mayor in a small town in your country. The advise other posters have given you are well worth consideration and better to have the right papers and permission prior to your event. The fees are nominal if done in advance, the "payments" if you do not have the papers and permission after the fact or during the event are much higher. LostinIsaan must have done this sort of event and has steered you in the right direction. Enjoy a pleasant evening.

Let's put it this way. I was Involved in quite a few events with Morlam music bands, dancing girls, catering service and never had a problem how long the event took place. Unfortunately could the Army ruled country bring some surprises.

You'll have to find the right company to have a stage and the right sound and light equipment. They'll send their "technicians" to the event and you don't have to go through a lot of headaches, when trying to do that by yourself.

If you don't find the right Morlam dancers, please feel free to page me, as we had a dance group and instrument players lined up, who were quite professional.

Those catering services do exist in almost all provinces in Isaan. They provide tables, chairs, foods and drinks.All you need is to give them a number of guests, they'll tell you how much they want for, but you can always get it a few baht cheaper.

That's why I mentioned to let it be done by your wife, gf, or anybody else, who's Thai.Even if your Thai's outstanding, you'll never be treated as a Thai.

Surprisingly will you be able to party all night, given the fact that you pay for, protected by cops. If you do it the right way, you won't have a headache, the techie guys will do all, the Morlam artists will use the area behind the stage to change clothes and it's basically up to you how much the dancers are wearing.......

Please be aware that such an event always attracts teenies, who then ( after loads of Lhao Kao) are causing troubles. Flying bottles, but even bullets are sometimes part of such an event.

The last time when we had such an event, we even invited "Satjen Tamm Mue", who became a Thai superstar over the years.

We became friends many years ago and it was great to sit there with him and his band and have a chat about the "good old times" in Sisaket, where he comes from.

If you're planning to have such a musician at your party it won't be cheap, but dirt cheap compared to a Live Gig somewhere in Europe, or the States.

Please see attached photos that might give you an idea what I meant with the "catering service". The only problem that occurred was that I had to show the one girl who works for them how to open a wine bottle.

It was too funny as nobody really knew how to use a corkscrew. But that's also a reason why Isaan is as it is. Awesome.

[bassman]

Agree with lostinissan, have your wife talk to the village head man, you might solve most of your problems and questions there. Special events in Issan are very common and depending on your village you may just have to turn it down a bit after midnight.

[oneday]

You are kidding, right?

Thai people seem to be able to get away with playing loud music anytime they want and seem under the impression everybody around them loves to hear it. Do you really think going to the police would do anything. I seriously doubt it.

What I would do is simple. Go around to every single home you believe the music and noise would bother and ask them if they would be OK for one night and INVITE them to the festival / party. That's your best bet IMO.

[lostinisaan]

You are kidding, right?

Thai people seem to be able to get away with playing loud music anytime they want and seem under the impression everybody around them loves to hear it. Do you really think going to the police would do anything. I seriously doubt it.

What I would do is simple. Go around to every single home you believe the music and noise would bother and ask them if they would be OK for one night and INVITE them to the festival / party. That's your best bet IMO.

No idea who’s kidding whom now. It seems that you don’t have a clue about life in a village, do you?

Whenever somebody passes away, there’s at least a three day “Tamboon”, with loud music 24/7. Depending on their social status. Wealthy families do this for a whole week.

Same goes for events like one year after somebody passed away, where even Morlam girls dance almost wearing next to nothing, inside a temple. Well, I didn’t see one monk this evening/night. They must have done some extreme mediational practices this night…..…..

I always get a kick out of people who do not seem to understand that cops don’t have to be invited to such an event, as they’ll be send to anyway, because there’re usually fights, stabbings, etc... to deal with.

When you go to bigger events, there’s always a prison truck for the guys who think that they can do what they want.

Those cops are usually nice guys and they appreciate to see foreigners and some of them even try to have a chat with them.

What “you would do” is an unwritten law, at least in Isaan. People can just show up and join in. And life in most villages is so boring that all people appreciate such an event, because it’s so different to their daily lives.

No offense, but please do your homework first and then write about it.

I tend to believe that most people here on this forum who live, or used to live in a village a sort of agree with me on that one.

Kau Tchai, Bo?

[martin501]

You are kidding, right?

Thai people seem to be able to get away with playing loud music anytime they want and seem under the impression everybody around them loves to hear it. Do you really think going to the police would do anything. I seriously doubt it.

What I would do is simple. Go around to every single home you believe the music and noise would bother and ask them if they would be OK for one night and INVITE them to the festival / party. That's your best bet IMO.

No idea who’s kidding whom now. It seems that you don’t have a clue about life in a village, do you?

Whenever somebody passes away, there’s at least a three day “Tamboon”, with loud music 24/7. Depending on their social status. Wealthy families do this for a whole week.

Whenever someone passes away it's normally a sombre affair with Violin Music for an hour or so in the morning and evening, to say Thai Villages party 24/7 at funerals is untrue ( gamble maybe ) , but for wedding or lads becoming a monk it can be as you say " Party Time "

Edited February 28, 2015 by martin501

[louse1953]

You are kidding, right?

Thai people seem to be able to get away with playing loud music anytime they want and seem under the impression everybody around them loves to hear it. Do you really think going to the police would do anything. I seriously doubt it.

What I would do is simple. Go around to every single home you believe the music and noise would bother and ask them if they would be OK for one night and INVITE them to the festival / party. That's your best bet IMO.

No idea who’s kidding whom now. It seems that you don’t have a clue about life in a village, do you?

Whenever somebody passes away, there’s at least a three day “Tamboon”, with loud music 24/7. Depending on their social status. Wealthy families do this for a whole week.

Same goes for events like one year after somebody passed away, where even Morlam girls dance almost wearing next to nothing, inside a temple. Well, I didn’t see one monk this evening/night. They must have done some extreme mediational practices this night…..…..

I always get a kick out of people who do not seem to understand that cops don’t have to be invited to such an event, as they’ll be send to anyway, because there’re usually fights, stabbings, etc... to deal with.

When you go to bigger events, there’s always a prison truck for the guys who think that they can do what they want.

Those cops are usually nice guys and they appreciate to see foreigners and some of them even try to have a chat with them.

What “you would do” is an unwritten law, at least in Isaan. People can just show up and join in. And life in most villages is so boring that all people appreciate such an event, because it’s so different to their daily lives.

No offense, but please do your homework first and then write about it.

I tend to believe that most people here on this forum who live, or used to live in a village a sort of agree with me on that one.

Kau Tchai, Bo?

Was on my way home last night from mates birthday party,backroads and taking it easy,when we saw bright lights on near our wat but still 3 k from home.i'll just have a look because i can hear music and see a stage.Before i could do anything i had a hot can of beer and a glass of ice in my hand.Ok,be polite,sit down.Hardly finished beer and full bottle of Hong Thong was put before me,bloody hell,i was a gatecrasher.I did know a few blokes in this village as they worked on my house 8 years ago.So much for the quiet night and have been paying the penalty all day.Great time,great people.

[louse1953]

You are kidding, right?

Thai people seem to be able to get away with playing loud music anytime they want and seem under the impression everybody around them loves to hear it. Do you really think going to the police would do anything. I seriously doubt it.

What I would do is simple. Go around to every single home you believe the music and noise would bother and ask them if they would be OK for one night and INVITE them to the festival / party. That's your best bet IMO.

No idea who’s kidding whom now. It seems that you don’t have a clue about life in a village, do you?

Whenever somebody passes away, there’s at least a three day “Tamboon”, with loud music 24/7. Depending on their social status. Wealthy families do this for a whole week.

Whenever someone passes away it's normally a sombre affair with Violin Music for an hour or so in the morning and evening, to say Thai Villages party 24/7 at funerals is untrue ( gamble maybe ) , but for wedding or lads becoming a monk it can be as you say " Party Time "

You don't get out much Martin,do you.I have left strict orders for my wake,1 day,full on,and that's it.

[TomYumpoochai]

As far as making obnoxious noise all through the night the only thing you need to do is pay whoever is supposed to stop it.....and put them on the best table. This is usually adorned with bottles of *quality* whiskey.

The blood running out their ears will prevent them hearing the phone ringing as 1 person might have the balls to ring up and complain... but they wont have any status anyway otherwise they would be sat there getting tinitus too...

[mango66]

Puchooay : "Who is "pujaybaan"?" That is just a different spelling for the elected official you might call a mayor in a small town in your country. The advise other posters have given you are well worth consideration and better to have the right papers and permission prior to your event. The fees are nominal if done in advance, the "payments" if you do not have the papers and permission after the fact or during the event are much higher. LostinIsaan must have done this sort of event and has steered you in the right direction. Enjoy a pleasant evening.

Let's put it this way. I was Involved in quite a few events with Morlam music bands, dancing girls, catering service and never had a problem how long the event took place. Unfortunately could the Army ruled country bring some surprises.

You'll have to find the right company to have a stage and the right sound and light equipment. They'll send their "technicians" to the event and you don't have to go through a lot of headaches, when trying to do that by yourself.

If you don't find the right Morlam dancers, please feel free to page me, as we had a dance group and instrument players lined up, who were quite professional.

Those catering services do exist in almost all provinces in Isaan. They provide tables, chairs, foods and drinks.All you need is to give them a number of guests, they'll tell you how much they want for, but you can always get it a few baht cheaper.

That's why I mentioned to let it be done by your wife, gf, or anybody else, who's Thai.Even if your Thai's outstanding, you'll never be treated as a Thai.

Surprisingly will you be able to party all night, given the fact that you pay for, protected by cops. If you do it the right way, you won't have a headache, the techie guys will do all, the Morlam artists will use the area behind the stage to change clothes and it's basically up to you how much the dancers are wearing.......

Please be aware that such an event always attracts teenies, who then ( after loads of Lhao Kao) are causing troubles. Flying bottles, but even bullets are sometimes part of such an event.

The last time when we had such an event, we even invited "Satjen Tamm Mue", who became a Thai superstar over the years.

We became friends many years ago and it was great to sit there with him and his band and have a chat about the "good old times" in Sisaket, where he comes from.

If you're planning to have such a musician at your party it won't be cheap, but dirt cheap compared to a Live Gig somewhere in Europe, or the States.

Please see attached photos that might give you an idea what I meant with the "catering service". The only problem that occurred was that I had to show the one girl who works for them how to open a wine bottle.

It was too funny as nobody really knew how to use a corkscrew. But that's also a reason why Isaan is as it is. Awesome.

you mentioned you could order how much dress they wear,

so why you desided full dress ??

[jacko45k]

Invite the headman and the policeman.

[Estrada]

In our village most of the villagers are relatives which includes the Poo Yai Bahn, Kham Nam, the police, the school teachers so no problem for us. However these are the people to invite so as not to get problems and they will tell you when to stop the music.

[ThaidaGwaii]

I'm not interested in these go go girl style affairs and freaking loud music...

But...

I would like to organize a traditional Isaan music with traditional dancers soiree.

Does anyone know the names of assembles which are very good Issan musicians and awesome traditional dancers groups?

Anyone has ever done anything like that before?

[soihok]

Some great advice from lostinisaan

Back in the 2009 coup, my wife had organised a large outdoor event to celebrate her youngest brother entering the Wat which also coincided with my birthday (all organised before the trouble really kicked off in BKK).

There were about 400 guests, the police had to be paid - twice (before and on the night)- and were in heavy presence leading up to about 10pm (there was a state of emergency in force and curfew). After they were fed with Pig and Whiskey whilst watching the dancers, it continued to about midnight.

However, the village is quite remote, far up on hillside on a road that leads to nothing but jungle, very far from the Tambon centre. I now call it home and great time it was too!!!!

[lostinisaan]

I'm not interested in these go go girl style affairs and freaking loud music...

But...

I would like to organize a traditional Isaan music with traditional dancers soiree.

Does anyone know the names of assembles which are very good Issan musicians and awesome traditional dancers groups?

Anyone has ever done anything like that before?

These “go-go style affairs” and this “freaking loud music” is part of the traditional Isaan culture.

These girls are usually dancing to professional Isaan music making musicians.

And exactly this mixture makes a “Morlam dance” to what it is.

Another candidate for the Thai culture course.

Up from Nong Khai, down to Baan Sabai Chai.

[krisb]

God he asked for help about regulations and it turns into a I'm more Issan than you debate.

[Derek M]

Thank you all kindly for replies.

Poo Yai baan, here is another name for my father in law! not far to go for info, etc.

Noise and police? not an issue as mentioned by others. I was initially planning for this Sunday but respect to kids having exams in the morning I'll wait until pre or post Songkran, how ever seems someone lese is going a head and making a concert tonight.

Tables and chairs and outside catering here is usually handled by the local food venders in the village so no tables or chairs required, never seen them used at a village concert event before.

[stevo2]

Puchooay : "Who is "pujaybaan"?" That is just a different spelling for the elected official you might call a mayor in a small town in your country. The advise other posters have given you are well worth consideration and better to have the right papers and permission prior to your event. The fees are nominal if done in advance, the "payments" if you do not have the papers and permission after the fact or during the event are much higher. LostinIsaan must have done this sort of event and has steered you in the right direction. Enjoy a pleasant evening

If you look at post #3 you will see that Puchooay steered the OP in the correct direction.

"Poo yai ban" has no power to allow such things. It is done to the local district office.

Speaking from experience.

Edited March 2, 2015 by stevo2

[georgegeorgia]

I had a bad experience at one of these back in 2008 up in Sisaket..i dont even drink and i had a few drunk thai teenagers try to hit me...he kept bumping into me as i was standing watching the concert...he was drunk ao i immediately moved to the other side where he followed me and hit me in the back of the head..a few old thai guys who saw it grabbed him and he seemed to be escorted out ..along with his two friends all very rough with tattoos and shouting ...i never really wanted to go to a party again because i dont like people being aggressive.