UK police: Schoolgirls who went to Syria are not terrorists

[stevenl]

19 minutes ago, overherebc said:

100% agree. All likely part of the plan. Would not be surprised if UK was stupid enough to let her back in a few months later she would be pleading her case to allow her 'husband' to join her and all bleeding hearts will be on her side.

Let her rot where she is.

Her husband has been taken by the Kurds. She is in a refugee camp, her 2 kids died, 1 of starvation.

 

Of course she wants to come to the west, everybody in her position would.

 

One of her friends she left the UK with is also still alive, the other one died in a bombardment.

Edited February 14, 2019 by stevenl

[Chomper Higgot]

Distasteful as this is, these British citizens have the inalienable right to return to the UK.

 

Before ranting against that right be absolutely honest and admit whether or not you have ever envocted Magana Carta in any argument.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Anyone contemplating giving votes to 16 year olds need look no further than this thread for evidence that they're nowhere near mature enough to be given the privilege...

Except she was 15 when she left the UK.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

Do you know, this made me laugh out loud.  Not because I don't agree with you, but I just hear and watch expats in Thailand and wonder to myself how that plays here with many of them. Principles are like rubber bands, they can be twisted all ways to suit the occasion. 

Nailed it.

[CMNightRider]

1 hour ago, Prissana Pescud said:

These women are not terrorists. Probably traumatised young women who made a brain dead decision to go fight for ISIS.

Be interesting to see what sort of children they breed up in the next 20 years.

They were not mature enough to make any coherent informed decision a few years ago. Their parents need to accept

some responsibility for this. Britain needs to take some blame too. What caused these girls ideals to be poisoned.

Why did they not feel they were accepted by the general population.

The muslim community also needs to accept responsibility for not trying to educate these young women to be part of British society.

That part of my post was easy to write. What happens now is basically up to the young girls and the support they get.

 

It's really too bad these three girls survived.  Hopefully, they won't reproduce and further pollute the gene pool ????

[overherebc]

17 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Her husband has been taken by the Kurds. She is in a refugee camp, her 2 kids died, 1 of starvation.

 

Of course she wants to come to the west, everybody in her position would.

 

One of her friends she left the UK with is also still alive, the other one died in a bombardment.

Oh dear

How sad

Never mind.

[BB1958]

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Her husband has been taken by the Kurds. She is in a refugee camp, her 2 kids died, 1 of starvation.

 

Of course she wants to come to the west, everybody in her position would.

 

One of her friends she left the UK with is also still alive, the other one died in a bombardment.

WOW Considering what you wrote above

 

"One of three schoolgirls (The Girl on this thread - Shamima Begum, now 19) who left east London in 2015 to join the Islamic State group says she has no regrets, but wants to return to the UK."

 

Source:- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47229181

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, BB1958 said:

WOW Considering what you wrote above

 

"One of three schoolgirls (The Girl on this thread - Shamima Begum, now 19) who left east London in 2015 to join the Islamic State group says she has no regrets, but wants to return to the UK."

 

Source:- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47229181

Her regrets or lack thereof have no bearing under Magna Carta.

[overherebc]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Her regrets or lack thereof have no bearing under Magna Carta.

Magna Carta?

Never met the guy. What's he got to do with terrorists and their female groundsheets?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Magna Carta?

Never met the guy. What's he got to do with terrorists and their female groundsheets?

Oh bless you.

 

The foundations of freedom within the British Comonwealth and you missed that class.

 

Feel free to continue parading your ignorance.

Edited February 14, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[overherebc]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh bless you.

 

The foundations of freedom within the British Comonwealth and you missed that class.

 

Feel free to continue parading your ignorance.

It applies to those who at the time were born and bred from UK families. It has no bearing now on probably illegal immigrants and financial immigrants and their families who would love to overthrow the UK system and run the country in accordance with their stupid outdated medieval system.

It also mentions the point that no one is above the law of the land.

Edited February 14, 2019 by overherebc

[evadgib]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except she was 15 when she left the UK.

Of which I was well aware.

Edited February 14, 2019 by evadgib

[Scott]

Post and reply violating Fair Use have been removed.   Also a troll post.

 

[Scott]

If she is a native-born UK citizen, then she would have every right to return.   The government has made it clear that they aren't going to endanger any officials to get her out of her current situation.   If she did get some place where she could get to the UK, there is no airline that is going to fly a 9 month's pregnant woman anywhere.   So, she is going to have her baby where she is.  

Once the baby is born, she's going to have to jump through a few other hoops to prove the child is hers and is eligible for entry to the UK.  

Then once she is back she will most likely face charges related to her support of terrorism.   Her recent statements do not bode well for anyone giving her the benefit of the doubt.  

[Chomper Higgot]

42 minutes ago, overherebc said:

It applies to those who at the time were born and bred from UK families. It has no bearing now on probably illegal immigrants and financial immigrants and their families who would love to overthrow the UK system and run the country in accordance with their stupid outdated medieval system.

It also mentions the point that no one is above the law of the land.

The young lady who wishes to return to the UK is a British citizen and under Magna Carta has the right to come and go without let or hinderenc

 

That she may or may not face prosecution upon her return has no bearing on her right to return.

*Inflammatory remark removed*

Edited February 14, 2019 by Scott
Inflammatory remark removed

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Scott said:

oIf she is a native-born UK citizen, then she would have every right to return.   The government has made it clear that they aren't going to endanger any officials to get her out of her current situation.   If she did get some place where she could get to the UK, there is no airline that is going to fly a 9 month's pregnant woman anywhere.   So, she is going to have her baby where she is.  

Once the baby is born, she's going to have to jump through a few other hoops to prove the child is hers and is eligible for entry to the UK.  

Then once she is back she will most likely face charges related to her support of terrorism.   Her recent statements do not bode well for anyone giving her the benefit of the doubt.  

Agree with all of that except the bit about airlines and pregnancy.

 

But yes you are entirely correct she has the right to return.

 

As do all British citizens regardless of why they left.

[Scott]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Agree with all of that except the bit about airlines and pregnancy.

 

But yes you are entirely correct she has the right to return.

 

As do all British citizens regardless of why they left.

Here's the general guideline by airlines:

 

If you are 28 weeks pregnant or more, you will be required to carry a letter from your doctor or midwife, dated no more than 10 days prior to travel, outlining the estimated due date, single or multiple pregnancies, the absence of complications, and your fitness to fly for the duration of the flight(s) booked.

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, katana said:

One of three schoolgirls who left east London in 2015 to join the Islamic State group says she has no regrets, but wants to return to the UK...
Speaking from a refugee camp in Syria, she said she was nine months pregnant and wanted to come home for her baby.
Continued: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47229181 (14/02/19)

**** that. 

 

You chose to go over to IS, now take the consequences. You show no regret for what you did and even less for those murdered by the scum you joined. 

 

You reap as you sow,

 

You're not welcome,

 

Rot in whatever shithole you now find yourself in. 

[Prissana Pescud]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Her regrets or lack thereof have no bearing under Magna Carta.

Maybe not the Magna Carta. More the Human Rights Commission.

That aside, she needs support and counseling and a loving environment.

And her support by a compassionate west will always negate any inflame posts by crap muslim politics.

The west will never defeat muslim by making war.

We will defeat them by showing we are tolerant, forgiving, supporting and lets face it, a far better culture.

Far above their racist, red neck attitude to the west. We are better than them and lets show it to these silly young muslim girls 

[Basil B]

Let's hope she is well away from the control of the I.S. or she is already dead, yes she has the right to return to the UK but agree we should not expect anyone to put themselves at risk helping her, and yes, prosecute her on her return.

[TopDeadSenter]

6 hours ago, Scott said:

If she did get some place where she could get to the UK, there is no airline that is going to fly a 9 month's pregnant woman anywhere.  

If she is deemed a high priority rescue, they can easily send a private HS125 or Gulfstream over to pick her up. It happens all the time. Same as how the Americans rescued Otto Warmbier. I would have expected since she became an enemy combatant against civilized life/the UK that her passport would have been rescinded, but am not surprised she has a legal right to return, and no doubt be entitled to any and all benefits so she doesn't have to work and can concentrate on converting others to her ideology.

 A dangerous waste of money and resources.

 

[Christophers200]

"US plans to jail British jihadis in Guantanamo after getting fed-up with UK's soft approach to terrorists".

Reported by the UK's Daily Telegraph 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/14/us-plans-jail-british-jihadis-guantanamo-getting-fed-up-uks/

[simple1]

On 3/11/2015 at 12:34 PM, Old Croc said:

Perhaps not terrorists, but I'm sure they're concubines for terrorists.

All three were married off to ISIS combat fighters within a short period of arriving in Syria. The one recently interviewed by The Times who is in late stage pregnancy and wants to return to the UK stated she was not upset when seeing the head of an 'enemy' in a rubbish bin as he had tried to kill Muslims - LOL. If they are still officially UK citizens one assumes they will be permitted to return to the UK, but surely they must be prosecuted for supporting a terrorist organisation; if not HMG should urgently enact new legislation to do so.

[overherebc]

8 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

Maybe not the Magna Carta. More the Human Rights Commission.

That aside, she needs support and counseling and a loving environment.

And her support by a compassionate west will always negate any inflame posts by crap muslim politics.

The west will never defeat muslim by making war.

We will defeat them by showing we are tolerant, forgiving, supporting and lets face it, a far better culture.

Far above their racist, red neck attitude to the west. We are better than them and lets show it to these silly young muslim girls 

Do you really believe that you can actually have any kind of meaningful interaction with these people?

 

[Credo]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

If she is deemed a high priority rescue, they can easily send a private HS125 or Gulfstream over to pick her up. It happens all the time. Same as how the Americans rescued Otto Warmbier. I would have expected since she became an enemy combatant against civilized life/the UK that her passport would have been rescinded, but am not surprised she has a legal right to return, and no doubt be entitled to any and all benefits so she doesn't have to work and can concentrate on converting others to her ideology.

 A dangerous waste of money and resources.

 

You're comparing apples and oranges.   First of all, she is not being rescued.   She is not being detained.   She was not arrested.   She is simply a UK citizen who wants to return home.   She is about in as much need of rescue as thousands of expats in Thailand who made poor judgments and life choices and now find themselves stranded.   Does the UK (or any other country send a private plane to pick them up?).   

 

And, even if they were going to 'rescue' her, just where would the plane go?   A private plane landing in Syria sounds a little dangerous.

 

As far as your comparison to Otto Warmbier, he was RELEASED by the NK and full permission to land a plane and return him to the US was granted.   A completely different scenario.

[Denim]

Think of the unborn child. How bad for a young Muslim , as yet unable to talk , to be taken to a terrible secular society where it could be exposed to corrupting influence of the west.

 

No, better for the child to be born in a wonderful Islamic country where it will grow up pure and untainted. 

 

Mother and unborn child should be encouraged to go to the original home of their ancestors .

 

Happy ending for everyone.

[Scott]

A post advocating killing has been removed.  

[overherebc]

10 hours ago, Basil B said:

Let's hope she is well away from the control of the I.S. or she is already dead, yes she has the right to return to the UK but agree we should not expect anyone to put themselves at risk helping her, and yes, prosecute her on her return.

What was the penalty for treason in 1215?

[malagateddy]

What about the very brave translaters/guides for our Forces in Afganistan..now being hunted down by the taliban..these men and their families DESERVE the right to settle in the UK.
Also over 5% of all homeless/rough sleepers in the UK are former Armed Forces personnel.
Lets help those who NEED and DESERVE our gratitude..NOT someone who does not regret being a bedmat for an isis scumbag.


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[evadgib]

2 hours ago, Credo said:

She is about in as much need of rescue as thousands of expats in Thailand who made poor judgments and life choices and now find themselves stranded.   Does the UK (or any other country send a private plane to pick them up?).   

Unfortunately the answer is yes but we can only guess at the criteria ????