tbthailand Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 possibly related to the current NACC case against Abhisit / Suthep for abuse of power ... That has just recently been launched... Not likely. What more could she add after the inquest said it was the army that shot those in the wat? How would her evidence affect the case against Abhisit/Suthep that they gave orders to the army to kill people? Was she also in the war room to hear those orders? you posed the question, why now after 5 years. I provided a current event which is related. You state, not likely, so now my response is... why bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 possibly related to the current NACC case against Abhisit / Suthep for abuse of power ... That has just recently been launched... Not likely. What more could she add after the inquest said it was the army that shot those in the wat? How would her evidence affect the case against Abhisit/Suthep that they gave orders to the army to kill people? Was she also in the war room to hear those orders? you posed the question, why now after 5 years. I provided a current event which is related. You state, not likely, so now my response is... why bother... No, you came with an event and stated that the arrest was possibly related to that event. Others came with other events and stated they are possibly related. Till now no information as to the real reason for the arrest, just the usual speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 the current junta's tactics are archaic, .. .prehistoric... but then they are all dinosaurs from a different era and this entire exercise (reform, blah, blah, blah, ...) is just about keeping things they way that they have been for many, many decades... if not longer. If they really try to pull off such a transparent lie as connecting this eye witness to the 2010 shootings by the military to a current attack in BKK, they will simply be showing (again) their true colors... sad, sad, sad, ... Who is connecting the 2010 shootings to the recent bombings? You, and other anti-government posters. No one else. Not the military. Not the police. The only connection appears to be that someone who was a witness to the shootings also apparently had some connection to a person already arrested in relation to the bombings. in reply to the question, "who", you will notice that it is not even necessary to read the entire article. Just read the post I replied to which states:Nattathida was not heard from or seen until today, six days later, when she was transferred to police custody for her alleged connection to a “terrorism network” that organized a grenade attack at the Criminal Court earlier this month. Now you should understand "who" in your question "who is connecting..." OK? No. The military is not connecting the two incidents. She was arrested in connection to the recent bombings. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Why now? Seems strange to do it now unless there's something that's not in the OP. Just looked at a few other posts and it looks a bit clearer now. Edited March 17, 2015 by kimamey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 possibly related to the current NACC case against Abhisit / Suthep for abuse of power ... That has just recently been launched... Not likely. What more could she add after the inquest said it was the army that shot those in the wat? How would her evidence affect the case against Abhisit/Suthep that they gave orders to the army to kill people? Was she also in the war room to hear those orders? you posed the question, why now after 5 years.I provided a current event which is related. You state, not likely, so now my response is... why bother... Except it's a bit far fetched that she was detained in relation to that case. She has given her evidence to the courts. The courts have already decided that the army did the shooting. Were a hundred other people also recently detained because they were at the wat that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Missing 2010 Crackdown Witness Emerges from Army Custody By Khaosod English Screen shot of Matichon TV footage of Nattathida Meewangpla arriving at the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, 17 March 2015. BANGKOK — A witness of the deadly military crackdown on Redshirt protesters in 2010 emerged from six days military custody today, a day after the junta denied any involvement in her arrest. Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was arrested at her residence in Samut Prakarn by five soldiers on 11 March, her family told Khaosod. The military officers reportedly informed Nattathida's family that she was being taken for interrogation under martial law, which permits the military to detain individuals without charges for up to seven days. Her relatives told Khaosod that they had not heard from Nattathida since. Yesterday, Col. Winthai Suwaree, spokesperson of the ruling military junta, denied that Nattathida was in military custody, and attributed her alleged abduction to "individuals with ill intentions" who disguised themselves as military officers. However, Nattathida emerged this morning when police brought her to the headquarters of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau in a van belonging to the 11th Army District. Missing 2010 Crackdown Witness Emerges from Army Custody BANGKOK — A witness of the deadly military crackdown on Redshirt protesters in 2010 emerged from six days military custody today, a day after the junta denied any involvement in her arrest. Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was arrested at her residence in Samut Prakarn by five soldiers on 11 March, her family told Khaosod. The military officers reportedly informed Nattathida's family that she was being taken for interrogation under martial law, which permits the military to detain individuals without charges for up to seven days. Her relatives told Khaosod that they had not heard from Nattathida since. Yesterday, Col. Winthai Suwaree, spokesperson of the ruling military junta, denied that Nattathida was in military custody, and attributed her alleged abduction to "individuals with ill intentions" who disguised themselves as military officers. However, Nattathida emerged this morning when police brought her to the headquarters of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau in a van belonging to the 11th Army District. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1426572443 -- Khaosod English 2015-03-17 Where is Jdinasia now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 And many others were suggesting that the military had killed her off. It appears that her arrest has nothing to do with 2010. It could actually bring into question her whole 2010 wat story. Yes it could have nothing to do with 2010. I never said it did. But the army denied they had her. Posters on here said it was likely the red shirts had her. Facts are the army has her. And they lied about it while trying to put it on opponents of the coup just proves you cant believe a word that comes out their mouthes Do you believe what comes out of the red shirts' mouths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubl Posted March 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2015 Where is Jdinasia now? Probably here "She has been charged with terrorism, collaborating in trying to kill and weapon possession," Prawut said. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/809529-two-men-sentenced-for-bangkok-courthouse-blast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Junta Spokesperson Admits to Detaining Missing Woman By Khaosod English BANGKOK — The spokesperson for Thailand’s military junta admitted today that the army detained a woman who went missing six days ago, explaining yesterday’s denial as a "lack of communication" between different military units. The spokesperson, Col. Winthai Suwaree, said the initial denial was based on information from the junta’s security wing, the Armed Forces for Maintaining Peace and Order (AFMPO), which said the woman was not in military custody. However, he later learned that Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was being held by another unit, which he did not specify by name. Nattathida’s relatives told Khaosod over the weekend that five soldiers arrested her at her home on 11 March. According to her relatives, the soldiers did not provide any information for the arrest. Nattathida was not heard from or seen until today, six days later, when she was transferred to police custody for her alleged connection to a “terrorism network” that organized a grenade attack at the Criminal Court earlier this month. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1426580675 -- Khaosod English 2015-03-17 Any of the Junta-lovers? Anyone? Please, by any means...go ahead... Obviously this means the police did not arrest her (not sure because of incapability or incompetence or unwillingness...) so again the army had to do their job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96tehtarp Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A PR catastrophe to add to a very long list of PR catastrophes, but still, nothing to do with 2010. It has everything very much to do with 2010. This person is of extreme interest. The conspiracy theory is that military heavies have put pressure on her to recant her testimony on the killings in 2010. I'll remain mute on that point. However because of her involvement in 2010 and her testomony and now her defiant three finger salute she is definitely in the spot lite, and under the gun, so to speak. Everyone, red, white, blue or green should be able to agree on this. She is very important indeed, be she communist republican scum, anarchist, apostate or red shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Missing 2010 Crackdown Witness Emerges from Army Custody By Khaosod English Screen shot of Matichon TV footage of Nattathida Meewangpla arriving at the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, 17 March 2015. BANGKOK — A witness of the deadly military crackdown on Redshirt protesters in 2010 emerged from six days military custody today, a day after the junta denied any involvement in her arrest. Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was arrested at her residence in Samut Prakarn by five soldiers on 11 March, her family told Khaosod. The military officers reportedly informed Nattathida's family that she was being taken for interrogation under martial law, which permits the military to detain individuals without charges for up to seven days. Her relatives told Khaosod that they had not heard from Nattathida since. Yesterday, Col. Winthai Suwaree, spokesperson of the ruling military junta, denied that Nattathida was in military custody, and attributed her alleged abduction to "individuals with ill intentions" who disguised themselves as military officers. However, Nattathida emerged this morning when police brought her to the headquarters of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau in a van belonging to the 11th Army District. Missing 2010 Crackdown Witness Emerges from Army Custody BANGKOK — A witness of the deadly military crackdown on Redshirt protesters in 2010 emerged from six days military custody today, a day after the junta denied any involvement in her arrest. Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was arrested at her residence in Samut Prakarn by five soldiers on 11 March, her family told Khaosod. The military officers reportedly informed Nattathida's family that she was being taken for interrogation under martial law, which permits the military to detain individuals without charges for up to seven days. Her relatives told Khaosod that they had not heard from Nattathida since. Yesterday, Col. Winthai Suwaree, spokesperson of the ruling military junta, denied that Nattathida was in military custody, and attributed her alleged abduction to "individuals with ill intentions" who disguised themselves as military officers. However, Nattathida emerged this morning when police brought her to the headquarters of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau in a van belonging to the 11th Army District. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1426572443 -- Khaosod English 2015-03-17 Where is Jdinasia now? Maybe he has been abducted - sorry, taken into custody........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A PR catastrophe to add to a very long list of PR catastrophes, but still, nothing to do with 2010. It has everything very much to do with 2010. This person is of extreme interest. The conspiracy theory is that military heavies have put pressure on her to recant her testimony on the killings in 2010. I'll remain mute on that point. However because of her involvement in 2010 and her testomony and now her defiant three finger salute she is definitely in the spot lite, and under the gun, so to speak. Everyone, red, white, blue or green should be able to agree on this. She is very important indeed, be she communist republican scum, anarchist, apostate or red shirt. The only thing that it might have to do with 2010 is that the shootings might be the reason she got involved in these bombings. Other than that, she wasn't arrested for anything that happened in 2010. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A PR catastrophe to add to a very long list of PR catastrophes, but still, nothing to do with 2010. It has everything very much to do with 2010. This person is of extreme interest. The conspiracy theory is that military heavies have put pressure on her to recant her testimony on the killings in 2010. I'll remain mute on that point. However because of her involvement in 2010 and her testomony and now her defiant three finger salute she is definitely in the spot lite, and under the gun, so to speak. Everyone, red, white, blue or green should be able to agree on this. She is very important indeed, be she communist republican scum, anarchist, apostate or red shirt. None of the above ""She has been charged with terrorism, collaborating in trying to kill and weapon possession," Prawut said." http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/809529-two-men-sentenced-for-bangkok-courthouse-blast/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbarch Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I have not read all the posts, I was quite shocked by the original story, just googled the poor girls name and the first link that came up says, apparently the Military have backtracked and said they have her ? Confused ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 One thing that this whole ferago does illustrate, just how difficult it is, in these times of social media and almost universal internet access, to "disappear" somebody. I'll bet a more than a few within the regime are wishing it was still the 1970s. Augusto Pinochet never had these problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Where is Jdinasia now? Probably here "She has been charged with terrorism, collaborating in trying to kill and weapon possession," Prawut said. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/809529-two-men-sentenced-for-bangkok-courthouse-blast LOL. What we have is a woman who was not abducted. Who was in military custody for less than the proscribed time. Who has now been charged in connection with terrorism. When do you tip your hand to the terrorists that you are interrogating one of them? Only when you are required to is the answer that is most obvious to me. It will be interesting to see how many more arrests of redshirts who are involved in bombing and mayhem occur in the next 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Junta Spokesperson Admits to Detaining Missing Woman By Khaosod English BANGKOK — The spokesperson for Thailand’s military junta admitted today that the army detained a woman who went missing six days ago, explaining yesterday’s denial as a "lack of communication" between different military units. The spokesperson, Col. Winthai Suwaree, said the initial denial was based on information from the junta’s security wing, the Armed Forces for Maintaining Peace and Order (AFMPO), which said the woman was not in military custody. However, he later learned that Nattathida Meewangpla, 36, was being held by another unit, which he did not specify by name. Nattathida’s relatives told Khaosod over the weekend that five soldiers arrested her at her home on 11 March. According to her relatives, the soldiers did not provide any information for the arrest. Nattathida was not heard from or seen until today, six days later, when she was transferred to police custody for her alleged connection to a “terrorism network” that organized a grenade attack at the Criminal Court earlier this month. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1426580675 -- Khaosod English 2015-03-17 Why would any person now believe anything this regiem utters?Sent from my GT-P7510 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 the current junta's tactics are archaic, .. .prehistoric... but then they are all dinosaurs from a different era and this entire exercise (reform, blah, blah, blah, ...) is just about keeping things they way that they have been for many, many decades... if not longer. If they really try to pull off such a transparent lie as connecting this eye witness to the 2010 shootings by the military to a current attack in BKK, they will simply be showing (again) their true colors... sad, sad, sad, ... Who is connecting the 2010 shootings to the recent bombings? You, and other anti-government posters. No one else. Not the military. Not the police. The only connection appears to be that someone who was a witness to the shootings also apparently had some connection to a person already arrested in relation to the bombings. in reply to the question, "who", you will notice that it is not even necessary to read the entire article. Just read the post I replied to which states:Nattathida was not heard from or seen until today, six days later, when she was transferred to police custody for her alleged connection to a “terrorism network” that organized a grenade attack at the Criminal Court earlier this month. Now you should understand "who" in your question "who is connecting..." OK? No. The military is not connecting the two incidents. She was arrested in connection to the recent bombings. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. wow, you are amazing, too. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. OK, if that is the reality that you want to live in, then so be it. But let me ask you if you know anything at all about the history of the Thai military... ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whybother Posted March 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2015 wow, you are amazing, too. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. OK, if that is the reality that you want to live in, then so be it. But let me ask you if you know anything at all about the history of the Thai military... ??? She witnesses the shootings 5 years ago. She is left alone. She goes through the inquest a couple of years ago. She is left alone. There is a coup a year ago. She is left alone. There are bombings a couple of weeks ago which she was apparently connected to. She was arrested. But she was arrested because she witnessed shootings 5 years ago. Riiiggghttt ... OK ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 wow, you are amazing, too. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. OK, if that is the reality that you want to live in, then so be it. But let me ask you if you know anything at all about the history of the Thai military... ??? She witnesses the shootings 5 years ago. She is left alone. She goes through the inquest a couple of years ago. She is left alone. There is a coup a year ago. She is left alone. There are bombings a couple of weeks ago which she was apparently connected to. She was arrested. But she was arrested because she witnessed shootings 5 years ago. Riiiggghttt ... OK ... you and rubl could be brothers, right? but that answers the question... no, you know nothing at all about the history of the Thai military... enjoy your little junta wet dream... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Either the bad guys, the fake guys or the fake bad guys I guess. BTW 'understood who most likely' sounds 'almost' sure. Probably based on 'real' evidence ? no answer? Not so much abducted but arrested. "...."She has been charged with terrorism, collaborating in trying to kill and weapon possession," Prawut said...." (see later post) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 possibly related to the current NACC case against Abhisit / Suthep for abuse of power ... That has just recently been launched... Not likely. What more could she add after the inquest said it was the army that shot those in the wat? How would her evidence affect the case against Abhisit/Suthep that they gave orders to the army to kill people? Was she also in the war room to hear those orders? you posed the question, why now after 5 years. I provided a current event which is related. You state, not likely, so now my response is... why bother... No, you came with an event and stated that the arrest was possibly related to that event. Others came with other events and stated they are possibly related. Till now no information as to the real reason for the arrest, just the usual speculation. yes, what I said is what was posted, and it is there for all to read... except perhaps you? and yes, now there is a "reason" from the junta for her arrest... dang you are just a remarkable troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Think the army/junta need to say why they denied she was in custody and then admitted they had her. Otherwise the public are not going to have much faith in them. The coup was a good thing; it stopped the violence and brought back normality. However the coup leaders need to garner public confidence, and this can only be done by honesty and explaining their actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whybother Posted March 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2015 wow, you are amazing, too. She was also a witness to the wat shootings, but that has nothing to do with why she was arrested now. OK, if that is the reality that you want to live in, then so be it. But let me ask you if you know anything at all about the history of the Thai military... ??? She witnesses the shootings 5 years ago. She is left alone. She goes through the inquest a couple of years ago. She is left alone. There is a coup a year ago. She is left alone. There are bombings a couple of weeks ago which she was apparently connected to. She was arrested. But she was arrested because she witnessed shootings 5 years ago. Riiiggghttt ... OK ... you and rubl could be brothers, right?but that answers the question... no, you know nothing at all about the history of the Thai military... enjoy your little junta wet dream... Make sure you keep your tin foil hat on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Think the army/junta need to say why they denied she was in custody and then admitted they had her. Otherwise the public are not going to have much faith in them. The coup was a good thing; it stopped the violence and brought back normality. However the coup leaders need to garner public confidence, and this can only be done by honesty and explaining their actions. I expect that clarification to come after a few more arrests ( but it should happen now imho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 "..The soldiers said they didn’t need a warrant to detain Nattathida because they were acting under martial law" Yep, and as others have said, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Without checks and balances and agreed to laws, i.e. constitution and civil authorities in charge, Coups are never good things. They can and in Thailand's case, keep on happening over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 One thing that this whole ferago does illustrate, just how difficult it is, in these times of social media and almost universal internet access, to "disappear" somebody. I'll bet a more than a few within the regime are wishing it was still the 1970s. Augusto Pinochet never had these problems... It also shows how rumours spread easily, whether true or not. As for going back to the 70sh, forget it. When it became known Mrs. Clinton had used her own mail account to sent/receive official business, some joked Pres. Obama said "don't worry, we read everybody's mail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 "..The soldiers said they didn’t need a warrant to detain Nattathida because they were acting under martial law" Yep, and as others have said, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Without checks and balances and agreed to laws, i.e. constitution and civil authorities in charge, Coups are never good things. They can and in Thailand's case, keep on happening over and over again The Military Law was an agreed to law and upon the suggestion of the caretaker or so Minister of Foreign Affairs Surapong put into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wat dee Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's all over twitter now with a video on youtube. She was being held in military custody. Tweet by @KhaosodEnglish 'Missing' witness of 2010 crackdown deaths was in military custody after all. Footage: Details forthcoming. Good to see people like that still exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I did not give the theory that these attacks were a setup.... until now. The sentence for the people that threw the grenades at the courthouse was 5 months.... really 5 months for a terrorist attack? The only reason I can see for such a light sentence is that the incident was actually a frame for political reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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