1BADDAT Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Lately it seems the Tour buses have made the traffic in Pattaya and Naklua almost unbearable. They are so aggressive about pulling out into traffic, even though they do not have room to pull out. They drive down sois designed for compact cars and come from either direction causing gridlock. They drop off customers at venues that do not have room for these large buses to park so they load and unload from lanes of moving traffic. They park on city streets for extended periods of time as well. Pattaya streets are not designed for these large buses. I know that Pattaya is a tourist town and that these kind of problems come with the territory. It just seems that there is nothing being done to address the problem and it is really bad lately. I would suggest that tour buses be fined for parking in moving lanes of traffic and they not be allowed to park overnight anywhere on city streets. Maybe they should be restricted from certain sois as well. I know none of these things will happen, but there is always hope. Maybe it will go away enough in the low season for me to forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It's a huge problem with them parking all over and not to mention the pollution they pump out. Unburnt hydrocarbons giving us cancer. Truly depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 "Time for a Cool Change" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou62 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Agreed, they seem everywhere now. Fast moving and aggressive as they know they can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapoboy Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 the biggest problem on earth is human, nothing more to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. By the way the biggest problem is at night, when there are no jetski's, but a group of 10 Chinese get transported to Alcazar with a 50 seater bus, while 12 Chinese from another group get there with another similar 50 seater. Edited March 23, 2015 by Anthony5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. "Not much" is the same as nothing? It is a tourist town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. "Not much" is the same as nothing? It is a tourist town. It seems so, because nothing is done about. And you think that only in Thailand are tourist towns? Did you bother to read my post or were you just to eager to post a snide remark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1BADDAT Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 If the drivers of these buses showed any sense of common courtesy, the problem would be diminished greatly. They force their way into traffic like it is there right to go in front of everyone else. By being so aggressive, they just end up slowing everyone down. Their passengers are on holiday, so what's the big hurry? After all the passengers are in a comfortable air conditioned vehicle. I often take my motorcycle because its much quicker but I still find myself baking in the sun completely stopped while a bus decides to pull half way out and block a complete lane of traffic until the other lane yields to them. The most inconsiderate and and aggressive drivers in Thailand are oddly enough the ones who are paid to drive professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Have a look at Jomtien Thrappaya Rd. and Threpasit Rd. These tour buses speeding like lunatics. While they do u-turns they block all the lanes. They become more and more aggressive. The drivers of public bus-lines like Jomtien - Suvarnabhumi seems to be more reasonable. Even the cheap overland buses are less aggressive It's mostly about these private charter lines.....stuffed with Chinese, Russians or Koreans. Edited March 23, 2015 by alocacoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. By the way the biggest problem is at night, when there are no jetski's, but a group of 10 Chinese get transported to Alcazar with a 50 seater bus, while 12 Chinese from another group get there with another similar 50 seater. Well I agree with you, they should have a huge holding area for all buses just outside town and then transport the tourists down town in baht buses/trucks. I wonder what city hall will think about that? Getting all big buses out of Pattaya would help a lot regarding traffic pile up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tour Buses are making Pattaya almost undriveable Not to mention they're destroying all the roads because of the excessive weight. Just look at the condition of all the roads they frequently travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Regarding the OP first sentence, first word : Lately. Thats because in the last six months there has been at least, about, 1/12 times increase in tour bus numbers along Beach rd. mostly from Chinese tours that go on all day. Forget about City Hall taking any kind of corrective action here. Pattaya City has lost complete control over big business touring. Your looking at the future of Pattaya now; A seedy, third string, congested seaside resort taken over by big business touring. How many of a limited supply of "quality" tourists do you reckon will return for a second visit ?. Edited March 24, 2015 by morrobay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalangBaa Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Disagree strongly with your second paragraph. Pattaya is NOT a "tourist town". It's a sex addict town that inexplicably has some clueless Chinese and Russian tourists wandering around it pushing baby strollers or following a person holding a flag, all wondering how on earth they ended up there, and finally realizing they were scammed by unscrupulous tour operators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Have a look at Jomtien Thrappaya Rd. and Threpasit Rd. These tour buses speeding like lunatics. While they do u-turns they block all the lanes. They become more and more aggressive. The drivers of public bus-lines like Jomtien - Suvarnabhumi seems to be more reasonable. Even the cheap overland buses are less aggressive It's mostly about these private charter lines.....stuffed with Chinese, Russians or Koreans. To be fair If I was a bus driver full of Chinese and Russians I too would be an driver to other traffic just to get to my destination as quick as possible to unload the rude pigs on board. Edited March 24, 2015 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The time is there to realize the mayor's Sky Train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. By the way the biggest problem is at night, when there are no jetski's, but a group of 10 Chinese get transported to Alcazar with a 50 seater bus, while 12 Chinese from another group get there with another similar 50 seater. Spot on observation. Half empty big buses racing from hotel to venue and back and totally empty ones taking up road space when parked up while the groups go eat, shop, see the show, etc.. I try and avoid driving in the town between 6 PM and 10 PM which I reckon is peak bus time. There are 'windows' of reasonable driveability between commercial morning and afternoon rush hours and the bus rush hour. Staying off Nua, Klang, Beach, Second and Third and threading your way down side sois to get to your destination usually works but I agree that is becoming more perilous as bus drivers seek faster routes between their venues. Of course at weekends and national holidays with the added visitors in their cars and pickups, it is better just to stay at home. I was told that many years ago, there was a plan by City Hall for a large bus depot on Sukhumvit where passengers would decamp from the tour buses into songtaews for the trips to their final destinations in town. This was apparently up in 'Duck Square' where the Sukhumvit Big C is now? Not long after, Mike's Shopping Mall opened and the owner thumbed his nose at the City's plan and had the buses come directly to his shop as he had built bus parking on the 2nd Road side. The precedent was set and City Hall lost all interest in the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. By the way the biggest problem is at night, when there are no jetski's, but a group of 10 Chinese get transported to Alcazar with a 50 seater bus, while 12 Chinese from another group get there with another similar 50 seater. Agree. Tour buses and Thai party buses should be banned from at least beach road and second road. But let's be realistic, a lot of traffic congestion is caused by improper parking and using traffic lanes for other things than traffic. The areas should be clearly marked by the tessaban and then enforced without mercy by police, I am mostly thinking of the area beach road/second road near walking street, from the beach road bend into Pattaya Tai, and the second road portion between the Pattaya Tai intersection until the intersection between second road and third road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoboi Bebobp Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Third Road is like a train track for tour buses in the evenings, especially. Remove the tour buses and park them outside, is a great idea. This gives the hundreds of wandering song taews something to do all day. There's long been rumours of a casino for Pattaya, should certain things happen. If this comes to pass, today's road mayhem will look like paradise when the gamblers come to town from China, Vietnam and elsewhere. For this reason and the recent road closure shambles, this Darkside kid is out of here sometime this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Most of these buses are filled with Chinese tourists and they seem to follow a daily route up to Pattaya Floating Market, elephant village Na Jomtien, then turn around back to Jomtien and Pattaya. I call it a Chinese invasion , business must be good for the buses and tour guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't worry Pattaya peeps, we have the same thing here. I counted 27 buses on a 500 metre stretch of road a few days ago, all to go out on a 10 minute speedboat ride before the latex factory tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 OAT transport are the worst. There buses tailgate, speed up at intersections and flash there lights. jomtien 2nd road is like a race track for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Most of these buses are filled with Chinese tourists and they seem to follow a daily route up to Pattaya Floating Market, elephant village Na Jomtien, then turn around back to Jomtien and Pattaya. I call it a Chinese invasion , business must be good for the buses and tour guides. I can't imagine them getting paid well with that type of tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Third Road is like a train track for tour buses in the evenings, especially. Remove the tour buses and park them outside, is a great idea. This gives the hundreds of wandering song taews something to do all day. There's long been rumours of a casino for Pattaya, should certain things happen. If this comes to pass, today's road mayhem will look like paradise when the gamblers come to town from China, Vietnam and elsewhere. For this reason and the recent road closure shambles, this Darkside kid is out of here sometime this year. Actually, a casino might be not only a great addition to Pattaya, but also might be a necessity to continue to attract tourists and fill hotel rooms now that the influx of Russians has died down and less Chinese are coming. They should build the casino on the darkside, maybe around the end of highway 7 or around the end of highway 36 in Banglamung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I have to wholeheartedly concur OAT Transport are easily the worst. I'll throw in another tourist bus traffic nightmare, the area around the temples on Pratumnak Hill. Of an evening that area is à disaster zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 There are many hotels located outside Pattaya city center so the Chinese and other "group tourists" uses big buses to get down to the speed boats and other places. Not much to be done about it but it would be nice if they could start using some buses that don't pollute so much. What you mean nothing can be done about? 25 years ago in the big tourist cities in Spain a tour bus would not be allowed in the city. They all needed to park outside the ring road and transport from there with local transport. Why wouldn't the same be possible in Pattaya, where they could say that buses need to stay East of the railway road. By the way the biggest problem is at night, when there are no jetski's, but a group of 10 Chinese get transported to Alcazar with a 50 seater bus, while 12 Chinese from another group get there with another similar 50 seater. Well I agree with you, they should have a huge holding area for all buses just outside town and then transport the tourists down town in baht buses/trucks. I wonder what city hall will think about that? Getting all big buses out of Pattaya would help a lot regarding traffic pile up. East of the railway lines & other outer areas are more than likely outside of the Pattaya City / Bunglamung juristiction e.g. Nong Prue. Nong Prue area already has serious traffic flow issues into town at certain times of the day. Not a traffic engineer, but does a multiplicty of smaller vehicles from large parking lots actually address the problems? Perhaps it's going to take major investment in something like overhead mono rail infrastucture; that would be a huge challenge overcoming all the corrupt vested interests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddyjenkins Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Third Road is like a train track for tour buses in the evenings, especially. Remove the tour buses and park them outside, is a great idea. This gives the hundreds of wandering song taews something to do all day. There's long been rumours of a casino for Pattaya, should certain things happen. If this comes to pass, today's road mayhem will look like paradise when the gamblers come to town from China, Vietnam and elsewhere. For this reason and the recent road closure shambles, this Darkside kid is out of here sometime this year. Actually, a casino might be not only a great addition to Pattaya, but also might be a necessity to continue to attract tourists and fill hotel rooms now that the influx of Russians has died down and less Chinese are coming. They should build the casino on the darkside, maybe around the end of highway 7 or around the end of highway 36 in Banglamung. Sorry, did i miss something. I thought the number of Chinese tourists has exploded, hence the coaches. You say their numbers have lessened? Please explain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 someone told me recently the thais hate them because they don't shop or spend money i was also told they get a cheap all inclusive tour package 3 days (3 nights?) for about 300 USD or 12,000 baht 2-4 to a room or more??? traffic issues, even just walking around, getting more difficult? i can not say these Chinese tourist look like happy campers, in general of course but that might be how they look in china or anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I'm surprised some clever entrepreneur developer hasn't come up with the idea of a Pattaya theme park with direct access off the Bangkok motorway. Afternoon and evening tours from BKK and cruise liners much more easily arranged. Could have a repro soi 7, repro Walking street etc. Could have typical Pattaya narrow lanes but all the dried squid carts etc could be coralled into a Pattaya oriented food court area so that buses full of Chinese and Gauli can make their passes efficiently and then stop for refreshments. Repro beer bars with girls and falangs would of course be de rigeur. Some actors in wife beaters to start street fights. A few aged actors with clear medical needs to be matched up with 18 year olds with impossibly tight thin hot pants. Impossibly long-legged katoeys leering at the passing hordes and getting their expensive t*ts out (they don't need to be paid to do that). Etc etc - feel free to add your own design to the theme park. Taiwanese grannies should be given the opportunity to have a go on the Go Go poles at one (remote please) corner of the park. Free short time thrown in for the deluxe tours of Japanese men. Edited March 24, 2015 by SantiSuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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