h90 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 "Forced it to walk across a wooden bridge over the pool of drunk fools". Who "forced" the elephant to cross the bridge? Its mahout? Why these people are called drunk fools? I see just a bunch of tourist admiring the show provided for their entertainment. I bet they didn't ask for it I see no exploitation here and there is no evidence that the guests are fools are drunk. What a disgusting and very judgmental article. and if the guests are drunk, I doubt the elephant would care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYumpoochai Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 What? No comments about them all being sextourists??? Maybe the usual complainants are still down the ED clinic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Blame the resort and the Mahout , and how do they know these Farangs were drunk? If there tourists which I am sure they are they would think its local custom over here . You can't blame the people, only the circus for the exploitation of animals . Bad Farang man bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Phuket beach club lambasted over 'party' elephantThe Phuket News BANGKOK: -- Pictures of party goers riding and hanging out with a baby elephant at popular Phuket beach club, Nikki Beach, have drawn sharp criticism after they were posted online earlier this week. Now, the beach club has responded with a statement on Twitter. The photos in question, which Nikki Beach have since taken down after they were posted on Facebook, were shared by the Wildlife Friends Foundation of Thailand (WFFT) on social media which prompted a swarm of negative comments directed at the beach club.Most of the comments lambast the beach club for animal rights abuse, since the baby elephant is seen walking on a narrow wooden bridg over a swimming pool with party goers on both sides in addition to pictures of tourists on top of the animal.On Friday (March 27), Nikki Beach released a statement on Twitter that read: “Elephants are a highly respected and regarded symbol of Thailand. As a global company, Nikki beach respects every country's culture and traditions and as such, we fall into the normal behaviors in usage of elephants to represent their culture. We never intended to be disrespectful and/or offend anyone.”Still, photos of the baby elephant continue to surface with one website, onegreenplanet.org, posting pictures of the animal seeming to help a man propose to his girlfriend and another where a model is riding the elephant.The WFFT originally posted the photos with this message: “Over the last 24 hours pictures of lavish parties with baby elephants and lots of drunk people have gone viral on Twitter and Facebook.While on twitter a lively discussion went on, the resort in question 'Nikki Beach Phuket' quickly deleted all photos with the elephants, but we were able to save them before that happened.Our question now is; What do you think of this? Do you think it is ok to use these young elephants for parties like this, is this legal and/or right? Do you too feel tourists should know better? We would love to hear your views so we can contact Nikki Beach and let them know your opinion. Please share!” Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-beach-club-lambasted-over-party-elephant-51622.php -- Phuket News 2015-03-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circusman Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 while I am normally critically on the use of elephants, but this picture is no proof of any abuse. It could be that the elephant liked it, they like to play with water. Or the elephant could be very scared. But impossible to see from the picture. And I doubt the elephant cares if they are drunk or not, it isn't the moral police. Take another look. Is the elephant wet in anyway? NO so not enjoying playing in water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmus5150 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) "Our question now is; What do you think of this? Do you think it is ok to use these young elephants for parties like this, is this legal and/or right? Do you too feel tourists should know better? This is not the tourists fault, they did not hire/handle the elephant. If Thai people respected these animals so much, why do they keep exploiting them? There used to be a slogan "If the buying stops, the killing stops too", please make a new slogan like "if the riding/shows stops, the humiliation of elephant stops too". Edited March 28, 2015 by rasmus5150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The Coconuts article is pretty over the top, perhaps defamatory. I don't like to see animals mistreated. I would point out that what goes on daily in Nongnuch Garden in Pattaya is far worse mistreatment of elephants than what I can see from these photos. I'd rather see social media go after the Garden, but . . . that would probably be ruffling some feathers, or tusks, as the case may be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 >>Our question now is; What do you think of this? Do you think it is ok to use these young elephants for parties like this, is this legal and/or right? Do you too feel tourists should know better? We would love to hear your views so we can contact Nikki Beach and let them know your opinion. Please share!<< Quote from second OP "Do you fell the tourists should know better?" No one is questioning the behavior of the Thai owner of the elephant by bringing the animal to the party in the first place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Amount of people in that pool! Not my kind of holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 while I am normally critically on the use of elephants, but this picture is no proof of any abuse. It could be that the elephant liked it, they like to play with water. Or the elephant could be very scared. But impossible to see from the picture. And I doubt the elephant cares if they are drunk or not, it isn't the moral police. Take another look. Is the elephant wet in anyway? NO so not enjoying playing in water. That doesn't mean anything......you can't judge if the elephant is happy enjoying it, or is forced and afraid from just a single photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 So the elephant was walking around with drunk people around? How is this different from walking around with sober people around at elephant camps etc? Good point... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisemonkey Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The Coconuts reporter is a drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny S Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The Coconuts reporter is a drunk. Agree and with his writingstyle I would not be surprised if he was a yabba-user as well, what a Tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post raphoedon Posted March 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2015 Whether or not the reporter is a drunk is irelephant! ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Here's how they train baby elephants so they can perform. It's call the "crush". Pretty sickening. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152868371324586 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Here's how they train baby elephants so they can perform. It's call the "crush". Pretty sickening. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152868371324586 Are all elephants trained that way? If so those scum bags deserve an ice pick in their heads!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Here's how they train baby elephants so they can perform. It's call the "crush". Pretty sickening. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152868371324586 Are all elephants trained that way? If so those scum bags deserve an ice pick in their heads!!!! It's called a bull hook. All mahouts use them. All of them. I couldn't even get through this video: http://www.peta.org/videos/elephants-in-circuses-training-tragedy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer666 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I hope it pissed in the pool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Unfortunate Photo Op used for farang bashing...why not castigate the elephant handler...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyjohn Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Great reading... A bunch of drunks made a baby elephant the highlight of their rager at a lavish pool party. Whatever a 'rager' is. And I thought it was now illegal to use Elephants in this way? That it has been banned for years? I didn't know until i googled it Rager A larger gathering usually of highschool or college students where massive amounts of alcohol are consumed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Oh come off it. This is no worse than the elephants being exploited on the streets of Thailand. Because the person on the elephant is holding a bottle of bubbly their drunk just like the men, women and children in the pool are. What a lode of tripe. there were a lot worse photos doing the rounds on Facebook of this baby with a couple of pissheads on it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Unfortunate Photo Op used for farang bashing...why not castigate the elephant handler...? Castration would be more suited!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogergreybeard Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'm sure the elephants love the smell of chlorine up there trunks,if their such a symbol, treat them like one and not just a money maker,oops hang on this is the los,isn't it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Is this the group that helped that poor gorilla that was caged for over 20 years, in department toward freedom.. if so...good.. Work on the mahout.. right Edited March 28, 2015 by Rhys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Here's how they train baby elephants so they can perform. It's call the "crush". Pretty sickening. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152868371324586 Are all elephants trained that way? If so those scum bags deserve an ice pick in their heads!!!! It's called a bull hook. All mahouts use them. All of them. I couldn't even get through this video: http://www.peta.org/videos/elephants-in-circuses-training-tragedy/ Have just watched the video, now correct me if I'm wrong, lets say you are training a dog, which is a domesticated animal, yes? Ok, so you want to make it sit, so you push it's arse down and say sit. After a while it associates the command 'sit' and does the action. Now an elephant which is a wild animal, and alot bigger than the biggest dog breed cannot be trained in the same way, seems like the only way is to beat it into submission, this seems to be the case, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 An inflammatory post has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fey Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 while I am normally critically on the use of elephants, but this picture is no proof of any abuse. It could be that the elephant liked it, they like to play with water. Or the elephant could be very scared. But impossible to see from the picture. And I doubt the elephant cares if they are drunk or not, it isn't the moral police. its always abusive. the thai trainer stands there and hits and pokes the animal with a sharpened hook. its just how its done. some even think its funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Whomever wrote this article demonstrates intellectual furnishment not of the highest order... The Thai owner is completely responsible for bringing the elephant to this location. Did the hotel call up the elephant owner to come? Another guilty party. I highly doubt some farlang or two said "hey lets invite/book an elephant to a pool party?" What a piece of writing garbage who lets their xenophobia fully show through... CB Edited March 28, 2015 by cardinalblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKJASE Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 big ears and poor music don't mix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Elephants for rent..........who rents out the elephants??? Thai people who don't really care about the Elephant, they just want money. Its ok to blame drunk Tourist who don't know any better, But that's not an excuse for animal exploitation. and cruelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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