Lite Beer Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Koh Samui blast 'political' KOH SAMUI: -- THE AUTHORITIES are convinced that the bomb blast in Koh Samui on Friday night was politically motivated.Considering the timing and the location - shortly before the Songkran Festival in a popular tourist destination - observers yesterday insisted the attack was aimed at challenging the government.Meanwhile, security has been beefed up at popular tourist destinations in the South, including Phuket, Hat Yai and Samui after the incident.Seven people, including a 12-year-old Thai-Italian girl, were injured in the car bomb at the underground parking area of Central Festival department store. All of the wounded were later discharged from hospital with minor injuries.The spokesman of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) and the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) as well as the government's deputy spokesman gave similar statements about the attack yesterday.NCPO spokesman Winthai Suvari said there were ill-intentioned groups seeking an opportunity to disturb peace and instigate violence. He urged the public to give leads linked to the bomb attack to officials.Government Deputy Spokesman Pol Major Sansern Kaewkamnerd said initial reports revealed that the people responsible for the car bomb was the same group that had planted a bomb in Bangkok. "Since officials have strictly checked Bangkok, the perpetrators have moved to other areas. Officials have found links that the bombers in Samui were the same group responsible for the bomb in Bangkok. We are tracking down traces from the scene,'' Sansern said.Isoc spokesman Colonel Banpot Poonpian said a brown pickup with Yala licence plate number 4892, which was stolen while it was parked at Tambon La Ae Administrative Organisation in Yala on March 31, was used in the bomb attack."There have been no intelligence reports about the insurgency spreading out of the deep South. But there is a possibility that the perpetrators were southern insurgents or natives of southern border provinces who have expertise in assembling car bombs and were hired with the same motivation as in the case of the bomb blast on Soi Ramkhamhaeng 43/1 in Bangkok,'' Banpot said.The people responsible for the attack will face terrorism charges or the charge of pre-meditated murder and making a bomb with the intention to harm lives and assets, Banpot said. They will face the maximum punishment as stipulated by the law.Abdulraseh Dumedae, 52, driver of the stolen pickup used in the bomb in Samui, has been interrogated. He gave no useful information but confusing statements, police said. Pol Maj-General Thanongsak Wangsupa, of Yala Provincial Police Headquarters, said the driver reported the theft two hours after the car was stolen, so it was too late to track down the culprits.Democrat Party deputy leader Nipit Intarasombat said he believed the Samui car bomb was the work of anti-government groups and had nothing to do with the southern insurgency because the insurgents had never shown inclination to operate outside the deep South."The culprits focused on a tourism place. They want to demonstrate their power,'' he said.Politician Thaworn Senneam, who is a leader of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, said he believed the attack was the work of someone who wanted to cause problems for the government and the country's economy at a time when Thailand needs more tourist money to help boost the economic recovery.Pheu Thai Party politician Worachai Hema said he believed the attack was aimed to discredit the government after it imposed Article 44 to keep peace and order. "This attack has affected tourism and business confidence because Samui is the heart of tourism in the South,'' he said.Central Pattana Plc, which runs the Samui shopping mall, said in it letter to the media yesterday that the Songkran events to be held at Central Festival will continue as planned. Senior executive Nattakit Tangpoonsinthana said no serious damage had been found on the building after the explosion, so it would be mostly re-opened from today. Central Pattana said security had been increased at the mall and others run by the group.In Phuket, security has been stepped up in tourism spots and department stores, especially Central Festival and the airport, after reports that cars stolen from southern border provinces would be moved to Phuket tomorrow, Phuket Governor Nisit Chansomwong said.First Army Region commander Lt-General Kampanart Ruddit said he had ordered officials to strictly check all checkpoints in Bangkok, especially at spots famous for Songkran revellers such as Silom and Khao San roads.In Songkhla, joint police, soldier and volunteer teams have increased security at seven spots in Hat Yai district.The Tourism and Sports Ministry said Songkran events on Samui would go ahead as planned despite the bomb. Samui and nearby islands are expected to attract over 82,000 tourists. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Koh-Samui-blast-political-30257907.html -- The Nation 2015-04-12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Australian media are reporting that is part of the ongoing problems in the south and not politically motivated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 Bunch of geniuses, not to much of a leap to figure out a car bomb was political. The trick is figure out whose politics? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Australian media are reporting that is part of the ongoing problems in the south and not politically motivated. Oz media often use formulaic commentry, never seen any independent analysis by Oz media reporters on the issues facing the deep South Edited April 12, 2015 by simple1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) "There have been no intelligence reports about the insurgency spreading out of the deep South. But there is a possibility that the perpetrators were southern insurgents or natives of southern border provinces who have expertise in assembling car bombs and were hired with the same motivation as in the case of the bomb blast on Soi Ramkhamhaeng 43/1 in Bangkok,'' Banpot said.'' Are there intelligence reports pointing to this theory? Edited April 12, 2015 by Bluespunk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I agree this is political and most likely, since no one was supposed to die, decided by the fugitive felon former PM whose allies are dropping out of power faster than he can keep track of. This is a desperation move and will likely continue. I was near downtown Bangkok during the 2006 New Year's Eve bombings for which Thaksin was also suspected. He was suspected because he had just been deposed by the 2006 military coup. Very similar circumstances today. Patience is not in Thaksin's psyche and it makes it obvious when bad things happen right after 'bad' things happen to Thaksin. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you Thaksin defenders/lovers, don't bother to argue with me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Bangkok_bombings 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 "There have been no intelligence reports about the insurgency spreading out of the deep South. But there is a possibility that the perpetrators were southern insurgents or natives of southern border provinces who have expertise in assembling car bombs and were hired with the same motivation as in the case of the bomb blast on Soi Ramkhamhaeng 43/1 in Bangkok,'' Banpot said.'' Are there intelligence reports pointing to this theory? Yes it would be nice to get an inkling into what makes the authorities jump to this conclusion other than perhaps convenience. There are so many suitable phrases that can be used to explain an investigation is on going, that certain aspects etc are being looked at etc and that fuller statements will be made when more is known. Unfortunately that's not good enough for the BIB, DSI and officialdom who feel obliged to make definitive statements often based on little or no evidence at the time to make it look as if they are completely on top of things. In addition there's always the possibility of elements where certain conclusions are most convenient or useful. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've heard quite a lot about reconciliation from the junta since the coup but I can honestly say that I'm having a bit of trouble working out who they are trying to reconcile with, I'm sure that until they make an honest attempt to reconcile with all parties there will be more of these unfortunate incidents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 As has been suspected with other investigations in the past will the priority be identifying those responsible no matter who or turning this to the best political advantage ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I agree this is political and most likely, since no one was supposed to die, decided by the fugitive felon former PM whose allies are dropping out of power faster than he can keep track of. This is a desperation move and will likely continue. I was near downtown Bangkok during the 2006 New Year's Eve bombings for which Thaksin was also suspected. He was suspected because he had just been deposed by the 2006 military coup. Very similar circumstances today. Patience is not in Thaksin's psyche and it makes it obvious when bad things happen right after 'bad' things happen to Thaksin. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you Thaksin defenders/lovers, don't bother to argue with me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Bangkok_bombings Personally I think the Supreme Leader of Iran is behind it. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you Shia Muslims, don't bother to argue with me............ 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) I agree this is political and most likely, since no one was supposed to die, decided by the fugitive felon former PM whose allies are dropping out of power faster than he can keep track of. This is a desperation move and will likely continue. I was near downtown Bangkok during the 2006 New Year's Eve bombings for which Thaksin was also suspected. He was suspected because he had just been deposed by the 2006 military coup. Very similar circumstances today. Patience is not in Thaksin's psyche and it makes it obvious when bad things happen right after 'bad' things happen to Thaksin. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you Thaksin defenders/lovers, don't bother to argue with me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Bangkok_bombings Do you ever tire of the constant blaming of Thaksin for every mishap and foul deed in Thailand? Why not blame a hapless Bumese labour slave? Samui is a stronghold of the Suthep faction and it could be factional infighting or, and it is more plausible, that this has nothing do with the current regime. Samui is a corrupt place where the local organized crime gangs are constantly feuding. The violence doesn't make the news too often because it is bad for tourism This could be a settling of accounts either criminal or personal. It might also be related to southern insurgents, as it is convenient to blame them for such things. One thing is certain, the manner in which these events are investigated does not lend itself to the truth coming out. The public explanation given will be tainted by whatever the political flavour of the day is. Edited April 12, 2015 by geriatrickid 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why?...........Because the idea that Muslim terrorists are now bombing top tourist destinations in Thailand would be too terrible to think about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 As has been suspected with other investigations in the past will the priority be identifying those responsible no matter who or turning this to the best political advantage ? Oh you man of little faith!! We are on the islands, where the RTP previously have been awarded by the by the PM for their excellent work!! In the spirit of Songkran, please spare a thought or two for the Burmese patsies, who now have been locked up for more than 6 months awaiting "justice" ........... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt this is related to Thaksin & Co. There are way too many other targets much easier to get than Samui. I tend to agree with Geriatrickid. The gov't, however, will use it as an excuse to continue with rather draconian rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 Bombs in Bangkok bombs in Samui, some damage no loss of life. Who's paying these incompetent Terrorists. These are not hard core insurgents if they were the damage would be frightening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 A bomb and a fire, what or who do they gave in common? Who wanted revenge or to hurt this entity? There is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post otherstuff1957 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I am leaning more and more toward this being a Thaksin bomb or a local conflict rather than a Muslim bomb. The bomb was planted in the garage and went off late at night, when most of the crowds were already gone. The placement and timing of the blast indicate that it was meant to generate news and send a message rather than inflict lots of casualties. Thaksin's bombs usually go off in parking lots and usually injure only security guards, trash pickers or parking lot attendants. Muslim bombs, on the other hand, are usually placed and timed to inflict the maximum number of casualties. Then there is the timing, as far as I know, April 10 is not a significant day for the southern Muslims. If the bomb was placed by Thaksin's orders, the statement has been made and we will probably see no further action. If I am wrong and it is a Muslim bomb, then this is the beginning of a new phase of the insurgency and we can expect to see many more bombs outside of the Deep South. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt this is related to Thaksin & Co. There are way too many other targets much easier to get than Samui. I tend to agree with Geriatrickid. The gov't, however, will use it as an excuse to continue with rather draconian rules. 'Hey, nobody wanted elections more than us, but alas...' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uty6543 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "There have been no intelligence reports about the insurgency spreading out of the deep South. But there is a possibility that the perpetrators were southern insurgents or natives of southern border provinces who have expertise in assembling car bombs and were hired with the same motivation as in the case of the bomb blast on Soi Ramkhamhaeng 43/1 in Bangkok,'' Banpot said.'' Are there intelligence reports pointing to this theory? There must have been some intelligence reports pointing to possible car bomb attacks in Thailand as Central in Udon Thani have been searching under cars with mirrors entering their car park since the beginning of March. So i guess someone knows exactly who is responsible. Have other shopping malls also been carrying out the same sort of security measures? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Now we are just waiting for the news from the investigators, that they have found red shirt memorabilia and ID cards on the scene, and the bomb was marked TS...................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pedro01 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt any intel they have will be published in the National press. Southern insurgents have a habit of going for maximum loss of life. On the other hand, there's been a group around lobbing grenades, blowing stuff up with a view to causing a stir but not taking lives. So it does make sense to look at the latter group. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "There have been no intelligence reports about the insurgency spreading out of the deep South. But there is a possibility that the perpetrators were southern insurgents or natives of southern border provinces who have expertise in assembling car bombs and were hired with the same motivation as in the case of the bomb blast on Soi Ramkhamhaeng 43/1 in Bangkok,'' Banpot said.'' Are there intelligence reports pointing to this theory? There must have been some intelligence reports pointing to possible car bomb attacks in Thailand as Central in Udon Thani have been searching under cars with mirrors entering their car park since the beginning of March. So i guess someone knows exactly who is responsible. Have other shopping malls also been carrying out the same sort of security measures? True there have been bag searches in the Central I tend to use, but I thought that was just a reaction to the earlier blasts. It's what's happened in the past, but you could be right. They didn't bother today mind, but hey, it's songkran. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Lot of security yesterday at Central Bang Na. They didn't check the vehicles entering the parking lot though, as they were having lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Lot of security yesterday at Central Bang Na. They didn't check the vehicles entering the parking lot though, as they were having lunch. Note to self: If you want to blow up Central Bang Na, do it during the guards lunch break ................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Lot of security yesterday at Central Bang Na. They didn't check the vehicles entering the parking lot though, as they were having lunch. Note to self:If you want to blow up Central Bang Na, do it during the guards lunch break ................ The biggest hole in the security checks is the entrance to Tops. They never check there despite it leading directly into Central Bang Na. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt any intel they have will be published in the National press. Southern insurgents have a habit of going for maximum loss of life. On the other hand, there's been a group around lobbing grenades, blowing stuff up with a view to causing a stir but not taking lives. So it does make sense to look at the latter group. Agreed.. in the South they go for maximum loss of life. This is not the case here totally different. We do have however a underground movement that according to the police has ties with the red shirts that is doing bombings. Looks far more likely too look in that direction. By doing it in Samui it would humiliate Suthep .. so that would be an extra bonus for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt any intel they have will be published in the National press. Southern insurgents have a habit of going for maximum loss of life. On the other hand, there's been a group around lobbing grenades, blowing stuff up with a view to causing a stir but not taking lives. So it does make sense to look at the latter group. Agreed.. in the South they go for maximum loss of life. This is not the case here totally different. We do have however a underground movement that according to the police has ties with the red shirts that is doing bombings. Looks far more likely too look in that direction. By doing it in Samui it would humiliate Suthep .. so that would be an extra bonus for them. Robbie, please, please surprise us sometimes....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I doubt any intel they have will be published in the National press. Southern insurgents have a habit of going for maximum loss of life. On the other hand, there's been a group around lobbing grenades, blowing stuff up with a view to causing a stir but not taking lives. So it does make sense to look at the latter group. Agreed.. in the South they go for maximum loss of life. This is not the case here totally different. We do have however a underground movement that according to the police has ties with the red shirts that is doing bombings. Looks far more likely too look in that direction. By doing it in Samui it would humiliate Suthep .. so that would be an extra bonus for them. Robbie, please, please surprise us sometimes....................... I give a reasonable alternative theory. Do explain why in the south they go for max casualties and here.. not. Can you try to use facts instead of attacking the messenger ? Probably not as facts are the worst enemy of your kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waitforusalso Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) I agree this is political and most likely, since no one was supposed to die, decided by the fugitive felon former PM whose allies are dropping out of power faster than he can keep track of. This is a desperation move and will likely continue. I was near downtown Bangkok during the 2006 New Year's Eve bombings for which Thaksin was also suspected. He was suspected because he had just been deposed by the 2006 military coup. Very similar circumstances today. Patience is not in Thaksin's psyche and it makes it obvious when bad things happen right after 'bad' things happen to Thaksin. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you Thaksin defenders/lovers, don't bother to argue with me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Bangkok_bombings I agree this is political and most likely, since no one was supposed to die, decided by the grumpy D current PM whose allies have taken refuge in a Surat Thani temple. This is a desperation move and will likely continue. The junta will instigate such events periodically to justify the continuation of its enforced rule. They are the one's to directly benefit from such events. It is my opinion as I cannot prove it so all you D defenders/lovers, don't bother to argue with me. Edited April 12, 2015 by waitforusalso 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Australian media are reporting that is part of the ongoing problems in the south and not politically motivated. Oz media often use formulaic commentry, never seen any independent analysis by Oz media reporters on the issues facing the deep South Yeah the Aussie media is a rabble. More concerned with the block, master chef and kardashians ar$e. Total blitheness towards the news. Anyone could have done this... including the ruling junta, the dems, the reds... the muslims... Anyone. And being Thailand, they will pursue the wrong lead without fail. TIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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