Thaivisa News Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Suphan Buri:- A Briton crashed his car against a motorcycle, killing the Thai rider, while he and his Thai wife were returning to Bangkok from making a Sonkran merit in Suphan Buri, police said. Pol Lt Surapol Pha-obthip, an officer of Sakaew police station in Mueang Suphan district, was alerted at 1 pm Sunday that the accident happened on the Don Chedi-Uya Road in Tambon Sakaew, Mueang district. Surapol, a doctor on duty of the Chao Phrya Yommaraj Hospital and rescuers from the Nane Kaew Foundation rushed to the scene. They found a Toyota Camry with Bangkok license plate on the roadside. A Honda Wave motorcycle with Suphan Buri license plate was stuck at the front of the car. The motorcycles’ tyres were completely broken. About 200 meters away from the car was the body of Niam Nuwanna, 68, a resident of Tambon Sanamklee in Muang district. He suffered broken skull. Amara Hopkin, a resident of Bangkok’s Minburi district, told police that the car was driven by her British husband, Brett Hopkin, 40. Amara said her husband drover her, their 4-year-old twins and a relative to make Songkran merit in Suphan Buri’s Don Chedi district and they were returning to Bangkok when the accident happened. Amara said her car was on the rightmost lane while the motorcycle was on the left lane. She said the motorcycle suddenly sped up and changed to the right lane, cutting the front of her car. She said Hopkin tried to stop his car but it was too late. The car crashed into the motorcycle and the impact hurled the rider to hit the car’s windshield. His head hit into a metal part of the car, killing him at the scene. 1
Popular Post clifric Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 Wearing a crash helmet? 3
JOC Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 A tragic accident. Please no blame games or Thai bashing. 2
tingtongfarang Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Wearing a crash helmet? Likely not and trying to make a dash for one of those notoriously dangerous uturns...fast lane to fast lane. 2
DarrenLittlewood Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Wearing a crash helmet? Likely not and trying to make a dash for one of those notoriously dangerous uturns...fast lane to fast lane. there's a fast lane in Thailand? 2
Popular Post Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 Best wishes to the Brit. I hope has first class insurance and a dash cam. Two things I would never drive here without. If the deceased family demand some money, I hope they are swiftly told to F Off. If he did not have a helmet nor insurance that covers death, and pulls across lanes without looking behind, then there is no one else to blame for his and their predicament. 29
Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Wearing a crash helmet? Likely not and trying to make a dash for one of those notoriously dangerous uturns...fast lane to fast lane. there's a fast lane in Thailand? There's an overtaking lane, generally best not to pull into it without looking first.
Popular Post ThaiRich Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 We've all seen it a million times. Changing lanes, turning and merging without looking. 13
Popular Post Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 We've all seen it a million times. Changing lanes, turning and merging without looking. Finger up the nose to stop the brain cell falling out. 5
off road pat Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Wearing a crash helmet? Exactly,...broken skull ???? ...exactly what a crash helmet would have helped to avoid...!
Popular Post Rolo Tomazi Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 Wait a minute, there seems to be more to the story, or the way the report was written is a bit confusing. What speed was the car going that the body of the motorcyclist was 200m away from where the car stopped, with the "bike stuck at the front of the car"? Must have been quite high speed, or the reaction of the driver was extremely slow. You can stop a car going 100km/h in way less than 200m! Assuming the car went fast, it's hard to believe that a 68 year old rider would speed up to get in front of the car. Seems to me that the car driver didn't see the slower motorcycle, maybe going way too fast. It's still the fault of the motorcyclist, though. Then the car crashed into the motorcycle, she said. Don't know if it's poor English but wouldn't the motorcycle crash into the car if it was cutting in front of it? Whatevr happened, it's sad to hear that the rider died, being one of many who will get killed in the next few days, as every year. 3
Squeegee Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Even if he had a helmet on he still probably would have died given the quality of most of the helmets the Thais wear. 2
Popular Post RIJoe Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. 3
tommytitfull Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 normal thai driving just do it never look or signal. I have had the same but the guy i hit did not die.
Popular Post Sealbash Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 Wait a minute, there seems to be more to the story, or the way the report was written is a bit confusing. What speed was the car going that the body of the motorcyclist was 200m away from where the car stopped, with the "bike stuck at the front of the car"? Must have been quite high speed, or the reaction of the driver was extremely slow. You can stop a car going 100km/h in way less than 200m! Assuming the car went fast, it's hard to believe that a 68 year old rider would speed up to get in front of the car. Seems to me that the car driver didn't see the slower motorcycle, maybe going way too fast. It's still the fault of the motorcyclist, though. Then the car crashed into the motorcycle, she said. Don't know if it's poor English but wouldn't the motorcycle crash into the car if it was cutting in front of it? Whatevr happened, it's sad to hear that the rider died, being one of many who will get killed in the next few days, as every year. By TVF default, it is always the fault of the nearest Thai. 10
Popular Post Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. 20
NeverSure Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. Thank you. I somehow missed reading all of that in the article.
tartempion Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 We've all seen it a million times. Changing lanes, turning and merging without looking. Happened only once to me (cutting from left to right lane on a high way withouth looking) after driving 70k kms on Thai roads, but these motorcycle drivers who hit a main road coming from a soi withouth even looking for oncoming traffic, go figure. And the 30% of bikers at night with no red tail light and....and.... I do hope the Britisch driver is not in big trouble with the bib and the deceased's family.... My wife's brother got killed as a passenger on a bike (drunken driver, the bike driver i mean, car driver don't think so), car owner "only" paid 30k for brother's funeral. Insurance should pay, wonder who has insurance to pay for such accidents. 2
Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. Thank you. I somehow missed reading all of that in the article. Theoretical offerings are difficult for some people to pick-up on, so don't feel too stupid, NeverSure. 1
worgeordie Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Maybe no lights on the motor bike, there is quite a few of them running about up here in CNX,no lights,dark clothes,nearly ran into one a few nights ago.on the SuperHighway,most likely would have been my fault if there had of been an accident,even when they had no lights. take care,drive safe. regards worgeordie 2
Happy Grumpy Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. "bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. " ?? You ever heard of ABS? Do you have an advanced driver's licence? In, or even approaching, a collision, if avoidance is not possible for sure you slam the brakes and the judder of ABS stops you a lot more slowly and permits steering, without endangering anything. I don't know where you got your last statement from but it is complete BS. Not all cars have ABS. What's written is post collision, not pre. Sorry for your misunderstanding. 1
Cirencester Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Why is anyone surprised. They turn left onto main roads without ever looking so why should they change the habit of a lifetime in this accident 2
starky Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Sounds like the misssus is covering for her hubby a little in her statement. I am not saying the elderly gentleman wasn't at fault ( R.I.P) but it certainly sounds to me like the brit was going way to fast, only going by the description of the accident. If he was going a little slower may have had more time to react accordingly we all know the Thai's have poor driving happens and should always be aware of the sometimes silly moves they make on the roads. If it was an accurate description no way a helmet would have saved him anyway. I have seen plenty of falang showing attrocious driving habits on the roads of Thailand as well BTW 2
Popular Post Pattaya28 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 12, 2015 A few years ago I had a similar experience, with the exception the Thai motor-bike rider did not die. He did brake both legs. After going for my insurance company for untold compensation, which he did not get, the end of the story is I got 2 years jail. My lawyer got the sentence suspended for 2 years. The motor-bike rider pulled straight out in front of me, but in court, being a foreigner, I was slaughtered. My legal costs were not small. My eventual fine was minute. I had my passport confiscated, which meant I was unable to leave Thailand. I had the floor wiped up with me. Why ? Because I was a foreigner. Was on a hiding for nothing from the moment of impact. The police dealt with the matter in a very 2-faced way. 9
simple1 Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 A few years ago I had a similar experience, with the exception the Thai motor-bike rider did not die. He did brake both legs. After going for my insurance company for untold compensation, which he did not get, the end of the story is I got 2 years jail. My lawyer got the sentence suspended for 2 years. The motor-bike rider pulled straight out in front of me, but in court, being a foreigner, I was slaughtered. My legal costs were not small. My eventual fine was minute. I had my passport confiscated, which meant I was unable to leave Thailand. I had the floor wiped up with me. Why ? Because I was a foreigner. Was on a hiding for nothing from the moment of impact. The police dealt with the matter in a very 2-faced way. Location Pattaya. A Western guy driving a SUV hit one of my Thai family members who was crossing a road. The Western guy did a runner, but was later stopped and arrested by RTP; victim died in hospital 2 days later. The Western guy paid 30k baht funeral expenses and 300k baht compo (negotiated by RTP at Soi 9) - did not have 1st class insurance. The driver never apologised or expressed remorse. 2
ExPratt Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. Makes sense as he had a couple of toddlers in the car. Sounds like he didn't touch the brakes before he hit the bike. If he's hit him that hard up the arse that the blokes back flipped and smashed his head on the windscreen he must have run straight up the back of him. Doesn't sound like a lane changing collision at all. Bike may have drifted into the fast lane or the bike driver was ambling along too slowly and the Cars Barreled over him 2
Doc46 Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 According to this report, he hit the windshield and then ended up 200 meters away? There has to be more to the story. Car going 120-140kph, hits motorbike, the rider hits the windshield and is thrown over the back, the motosai is lodged in the front of the car, the driver of the car tries to minimize the risk of a further collision or loss of control by slowly bringing the car to a halt in safe place and not jumping on the brakes and endangering himself and his family any more, like some inexperienced driver may do. I would say the driver shit himself and froze,, then applied the brakes,,Seems normal for most people,,
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