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Prayuth Disciplines Soldier for Arguing With Traffic Cops

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Prayuth Disciplines Soldier for Arguing With Traffic Cops

Bt Khaosod Eng.

BANGKOK - Junta chairman and Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has ordered the army to punish a soldier who was filmed arguing with traffic police officers.

The video shows police stopping a soldier who was riding a motorcycle without a safety helmet, which is required under Thai traffic laws. The soldier challenges the police officers' authority to fine him, and drives away from the checkpoint. During the encounter, the soldier also says he is not carrying a driver's license.

The video clip, which appears to have been shot by a police officer, was widely circulated on the Internet after it was posted on Facebook on 17 April.

Maj.Gen. Sansern Kaewkamnerd, a spokesperson of the military government, said Gen. Prayuth felt "uncomfortable" after viewing the video, and instructed the Royal Thai Army to take disciplinary action against the soldier.

"As a fellow soldier, the Prime Minister is uncomfortable with what happened," Maj.Gen. Sansern said. "He would like to apologize to the people and police officers who had the resolve to perform their duty in a straightforward way. Furthermore, he has ordered the army to track down the soldier and punish him with disciplinary action."

Read More: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1429432950

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-- Khaosod English 2015-04-19

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  • casualbiker
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    Because he became aware of it so responded!

  • casualbiker
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    He's telling the army what to do not the police.. Also many PM do actually give guidelines to their police!

  • NongKhaiKid
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    What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

Extremely harsh punishment. The soldier will not have his additional piece of sticky rice for dinner.

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What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

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He will be removed to an inactive post where he will never see real war as all members of the Thai Army have so gallantly faced over the years this country has existed. There!

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What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

General , Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-Ocha, "A Man For All Reasons".thumbsup.gif

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The soldier just figured that since his boss, and former military commander, Gen P was above the law, then he should be as well.

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What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

Because he became aware of it so responded!

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Another case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'

Pathetic really.

Extremely harsh punishment. The soldier will not have his additional piece of sticky rice for dinner.

In the Thai Army things like this (surely on demand of the PM), stealing, routeaccident in fault with a armycar etc are punished with jail. You can buy of 1000THB for 5 day, mostly they get 15 days (= 3000THB... and you are free).

How I know ... my partner was nawikgayotin (marin) and got 2 times an light accident and a other soldier (punisht to clean the pool,to late on the morningappell) stole 1000THB from him at the swimmingpool

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What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

Because he is a micro manager who has no great vision for the country and his competency is not commensurate with the power he wields.

What would happen if it not filmed ?

Think a little bit please.... If the police did not take the numberplate, or his name = no prove = nothing happen SIMPLE HE

What would happen if it not filmed ?

Think a little bit please.... If the police did not take the numberplate, or his name = no prove = nothing happen SIMPLE HE

Forgot... If they have prove normely they not report to the military police. I wonder why they stop a soldier, normely they dont ( I think he was not in uniform.

Even in routeblocks my partner was never stop with the car, he put his nawik cap at the frontwindow during his 2 years of service. OH YES... one time he had a little trouble with a motor-cop for speeding (with our car) until the Major (Nawa Ti) put his head out of the backdoor,

When does a PM of a country get to tell the police what to do? This guy still thinks he is a general

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When does a PM of a country get to tell the police what to do? This guy still thinks he is a general

He's telling the army what to do not the police.. Also many PM do actually give guidelines to their police!

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The soldier just figured that since his boss, and former military commander, Gen P was above the law, then he should be as well.

There could well be an element of truth to that, but kudos to Pryudh for ensuring he is punished.

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What is a PM getting involved in something like this for or doesn't he trust military discipline ?

Because he is finished with the lottery issue and found himself with some spare time

It strikes me that PM Prayuth is no longer head of the army. Sooner or later the army will wonder who should be giving them orders.

Another case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'

Pathetic really.

Let me explain to you:

in any civilized country, the incident would have been handled more or less like this: guy on a motocy, without helmet (no matter if a soldier or a butcher or a housewife)....stopped by the police...punishment/fine handed out...driver complaining and/or being rude to the policeman....fine/punishment handed out...end of story!

No PM would EVER be involved in this!

This is why NO ONE would EVER ask Mr.P to get involved, so NO DAMNED IF YOU DON'T!

But if someone thinks he needs to be involved in anyone, breaking wind (mini skirts on TV, bikinis on beaches, soldiers arguing with traffic cop) or anything...that's when he get's criticized, because what the ....the guy is PM.

If he has nothing better to do, surely happiness must have returned to Thailand!

Also: maybe choppering around the Government House without a helmet, didn't set such a good example after all, huh?!

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Another case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'

Pathetic really.

Let me explain to you:

in any civilized country, the incident would have been handled more or less like this: guy on a motocy, without helmet (no matter if a soldier or a butcher or a housewife)....stopped by the police...punishment/fine handed out...driver complaining and/or being rude to the policeman....fine/punishment handed out...end of story!

No PM would EVER be involved in this!

This is why NO ONE would EVER ask Mr.P to get involved, so NO DAMNED IF YOU DON'T!

But if someone thinks he needs to be involved in anyone, breaking wind (mini skirts on TV, bikinis on beaches, soldiers arguing with traffic cop) or anything...that's when he get's criticized, because what the ....the guy is PM.

If he has nothing better to do, surely happiness must have returned to Thailand!

Also: maybe choppering around the Government House without a helmet, didn't set such a good example after all, huh?!

It's OK if you don't understand a post, but it would be better not to react to it.

General says to the Colonel - the soldier should be disciplined

Colonel says to the Major - punish the soldier

Major says to the Captain - be hard on him

Captain says to the Lieutenant - show him no mercy

Lieutenant says to the soldier - sorry its the firing squad for you today

Another case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'

Pathetic really.

Let me explain to you:

in any civilized country, the incident would have been handled more or less like this: guy on a motocy, without helmet (no matter if a soldier or a butcher or a housewife)....stopped by the police...punishment/fine handed out...driver complaining and/or being rude to the policeman....fine/punishment handed out...end of story!

No PM would EVER be involved in this!

This is why NO ONE would EVER ask Mr.P to get involved, so NO DAMNED IF YOU DON'T!

But if someone thinks he needs to be involved in anyone, breaking wind (mini skirts on TV, bikinis on beaches, soldiers arguing with traffic cop) or anything...that's when he get's criticized, because what the ....the guy is PM.

If he has nothing better to do, surely happiness must have returned to Thailand!

Also: maybe choppering around the Government House without a helmet, didn't set such a good example after all, huh?!

It's OK if you don't understand a post, but it would be better not to react to it.

Okay- I am stupid! Explain!

It strikes me that PM Prayuth is no longer head of the army. Sooner or later the army will wonder who should be giving them orders.

General Prayut is still Chief of the NCPO (aka the Junta) that has absolute power over all of Thai government and people, including the military. In fact now that he has invoked Article 44, the Royal Thai Police fall under military jurisdiction. The soldier was perfectly correct to ignore the police stop.

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In the full khao Sot article today it is revealed that the soldier is based in Surin and is known to suffer from depression. ( poor thing deserves to be exempt from all traffic laws for this reason alone )

His superior office concludes that he will investigate the ' true motives ' of the person who uploaded the video in the first place.

Nuff said.

What would happen if it not filmed ?

Good question!

Did the police officers note down licence plate details, type of bike, description of soldier?

Would the police officers have filed a report?

If the police officers would file a report would their immediate superior file another report to his boss in order to inform the army of the incident and request assistance to help find the alleged perpetrator ?

Etc., etc., etc.

If a tree falls down in a forest but there is no one around, does it make noise?

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It strikes me that PM Prayuth is no longer head of the army. Sooner or later the army will wonder who should be giving them orders.

General Prayut is still Chief of the NCPO (aka the Junta) that has absolute power over all of Thai government and people, including the military. In fact now that he has invoked Article 44, the Royal Thai Police fall under military jurisdiction. The soldier was perfectly correct to ignore the police stop.

Don't talk shit. Especially when you don't understand it!

An individual soldier cannot just do what he wants!

But then that idea fits your agenda!

It strikes me that PM Prayuth is no longer head of the army. Sooner or later the army will wonder who should be giving them orders.

General Prayut is still Chief of the NCPO (aka the Junta) that has absolute power over all of Thai government and people, including the military. In fact now that he has invoked Article 44, the Royal Thai Police fall under military jurisdiction. The soldier was perfectly correct to ignore the police stop.

Did PM Prayut or NCPO chief Prayut invoked article 44 ?

BTW in most countries people serving in the military fall under military jurisdiction, but under certain restrictions may be prosecuted by civilian courts especially when civilian laws and military law cover the alleged offence in a similar manner. In some cases, some countries the police can arrest, but need to inform the MP to come and collect the arrested person.

All this means that your "soldier was perfectly correct to ignore the police stop" is incorrect.

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Sounds like it's how many, if not most Thais react when they are caught out doing something wrong.

Get angry at the people who caught them.

Threaten them if possible.

Flee.

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When does a PM of a country get to tell the police what to do? This guy still thinks he is a general

Didn't you know? The police have always been more of a political tool for those in power.

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