Maize and Rotational Crops

[farmerjo]

Hi FJ

Those nodules look ok ,should do some good fixing some N .

I can see what you mean by leaving the plants on the surface , if it helps to supress some weeds ,especially that rice grass , a good move .

But with all the plant matter on top direct drilling could be a problem , the old crop has been chopped , but Thai slashes do not make the best of jobs chopping

plants , a lot long plants matter still left ( the one we used on maize stable did ), I know your drill is a 4 row drill ,with a bit of weight ,and has disc coulters , which

will help chop some of the old plants , but I can still the coulters getting block up ,ok if left for ,say 2 months ? not so much of a problem disc coulters will be able

to cope , and round here, farmers have started to direct drill sunflowers in to maize stubble ,only a few days after harvesting there maize crop so far no problems

with blocked coulters, but they do not have the quantities of plant residue you have .

Your thoughts .

Hi KS,

Yes,1st job next year is to add a single coulter in front of the double disc openers to slice through the stubble so i don't get any hair pinning(good seed to soil contact) and add a bit more weight to seeder.

As i'm only going to be home for a short time until november and don't want to burden the FIL with to much,the wife and i have decided to leave what sunn hemp i have left for seed(harvest in september and we will plant pumkins and watermelons on what land i have slashed.

Hopefully being a vine it will have more vigour than corn against grasses.

I have a spare set of plates for the seeder which i can modify to suit the seed size.

As you say the slasher is only 70 percent effective in cutting down the mass but hopefully good enough to get the seeds germinated and away to give competition to the weeds that will come back.There will be no herbicides used,just reliant on the cover from the mowing.

Would have loved to do a trial with a roller crimper on the sunn hemp but i don't have one.

Regards

p/s no rice weed this year

Edited July 20, 2016 by farmerjo

[kickstart]

Hi FJ

Those nodules look ok ,should do some good fixing some N .

I can see what you mean by leaving the plants on the surface , if it helps to supress some weeds ,especially that rice grass , a good move .

But with all the plant matter on top direct drilling could be a problem , the old crop has been chopped , but Thai slashes do not make the best of jobs chopping

plants , a lot long plants matter still left ( the one we used on maize stable did ), I know your drill is a 4 row drill ,with a bit of weight ,and has disc coulters , which

will help chop some of the old plants , but I can still the coulters getting block up ,ok if left for ,say 2 months ? not so much of a problem disc coulters will be able

to cope , and round here, farmers have started to direct drill sunflowers in to maize stubble ,only a few days after harvesting there maize crop so far no problems

with blocked coulters, but they do not have the quantities of plant residue you have .

Your thoughts .

Hi KS,

Yes,1st job next year is to add a single coulter in front of the double disc openers to slice through the stubble so i don't get any hair pinning(good seed to soil contact) and add a bit more weight to seeder.

As i'm only going to be home for a short time until november and don't want to burden the FIL with to much,the wife and i have decided to leave what sunn hemp i have left for seed(harvest in september and we will plant pumkins and watermelons on what land i have slashed.

Hopefully being a vine it will have more vigour than corn against grasses.

I have a spare set of plates for the seeder which i can modify to suit the seed size.

As you say the slasher is only 70 percent effective in cutting down the mass but hopefully good enough to get the seeds germinated and away to give competition to the weeds that will come back.There will be no herbicides used,just reliant on the cover from the mowing.

Would have loved to do a trial with a roller crimper on the sunn hemp but i don't have one.

Regards

p/s no rice weed this year

Hi FJ

I see you were 3 moves ahead of me re, blocked coulters ,a single coulter in front would do the job .

Pumpkins and watermelons ,on your land, round here they are grown on red sand land ,they do not like getting they feet wet ,have seen a lot of watermelons grown ,and they all have a grass weed problem ,grown in the dry season and irrigated the grass weeds seem to thrive , pumpkins seem to have a slightly better weed control , must be a more virulent plant ,you could cultivate/hoe between the rows ,until the crop gets going , that would help with weed control .

Or wait until the end of the rains and put in a crop of sun flowers .

Just been looking at the internet ,it would not be difficult,to make a roller/crimper ,lots of home made ones there .

Last year you posted a photo of 5 foot high Rice grass ,this year none ,another plus for sun hemp .

Regards.

[farmerjo]

Head off tomorrow for a while and just wanted to wish everyone with crops in a successful harvest after last years debarcle.

For me i bought pumkin seeds but they will stay in the cans for now.

To wet here with rain everyday and the regrowth from slashing is to far advanced.

In hindsight the window to get on the land was about 10 days so just spraying it out and planting the following couple of days would have worked better than slashing.

A few things for me to think about. happy harvesting.

 

[Pseacraft]

Safe travels and work.  Have enjoyed refreshing my knowledge from all the posts here.  Do have a question as to where you got your planter from.  I want to streamline the family expenses labor wise and have not been home enough to look around properly but all that will change this month. 

[farmerjo]

Hi Pseacraft,

 

I've attached their sign.

As far as i'm aware there is nothing up my way in Issan.This one of mine i bought from down Lopburi way.

Kickstart found them in his travels for me so he might be able to add further information.

Was easy for me,got the mrs to call and he sent different models he makes to her on facebook with prices.

I choose the one for me and he delivered it.

 

[Pseacraft]

Cheers mate, same with my part of Issan.  That is how I operate, use SWMBO for everything.  hehe  Have her chasing down one for a rice drill that looks promising.

[kickstart]

On ‎21‎/‎7‎/‎2559 at 9:24 PM, kickstart said:

u have Hi FJ

I see you were 3 moves ahead of me re, blocked coulters ,a single coulter in front would do the job .

Pumpkins and watermelons ,on your land, round here they are grown on red sand land ,they do not like getting they feet wet ,have seen a lot of watermelons grown ,and they all have a grass weed problem ,grown in the dry season and irrigated the grass weeds seem to thrive , pumpkins seem to have a slightly better weed control , must be a more virulent plant ,you could cultivate/hoe between the rows ,until the crop gets going , that would help with weed control .

Or wait until the end of the rains and put in a crop of sun flowers .

Just been looking at the internet ,it would not be difficult,to make a roller/crimper ,lots of home made ones there .

Last year you posted a photo of 5 foot high Rice grass ,this year none ,another plus for sun hemp .

Regards.

Hi  FJ

          Out today and found this crop of pumpkins, all this rain we have had  ,the grass weeds  are growing well ,this crop  has about the most weeds I have ever seen in a crop of pumpkins ,and this  guy  has grown  pumpkins  before , how he will find his  pumpkins  I do not  know .

Moral here is  make sure you have a clean seedbed ,and have some form  weed control .

[wayned]

We harvested our first corn this year earlier this week  It was only a small field that was planted in late April before the 30+ days of no rain.  The cobs are small but full.  The corn that was planted in mid July is doing much better with the cobs just forming.  The current price here is 9 baht/kilo at 15% moisture, we paid 6.3 baht/kilo but the moisture was over 30% so it's spread and drying.

 

The second 6620 is almost operational with a few last minute mods left to be completed.

[kickstart]

Hi  wayned

                   9 baht @ 15% moisture is a good price ,the difficult  bit  is  getting  the 15% moisture,  most farmers harvest there crops  as soon as the corn looks dry , in reality  it is probably 25 - 30 % moisture  , maybe  more if the crop is harvested by the cobs ,any more ,than 30% the combine  will probably be unable to thrash out  cobs , seen that before, combine goes in to a field ,travels  200 yards ,gives up and goes home ,to wet to thrash the cobs .

6.3 baht/kg  moisture 30%,that would make it 4.3 baht/kg  for corn harvested on the cobs ,not a lot of profit on that .

 

Around here no one yet knows the price  for corn ,going to be at lest 5  weeks  before   harvest starts ,I would say by then the rains will be back again ,and this year  there are some very good crops  about ,could be a wet harvest .

 

They is a bit of maize harvesting going on ,a few farmers   are selling there crop for maize silage ,some think they will get a better price than  selling the crop for the  corn .

[wayned]

I've only got 2 rai that I (BIL) planted in late April.  I'll probably wait until the new 6620 is ready and try it out there as a test to see if it's Okay.  Most of the small herds of family cattle disappeared in June during the drought due to the total lack of natural feed.One barn/shed is now a home for a just married family with a new born , they don't waist anything except the time and money spent by the women while the husbands are either on the tractor or drinking Lao Khao at the local shop!

[kickstart]

On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2559 at 10:08 PM, kickstart said:

Hi  FJ

          Out today and found this crop of pumpkins, all this rain we have had  ,the grass weeds  are growing well ,this crop  has about the most weeds I have ever seen in a crop of pumpkins ,and this  guy  has grown  pumpkins  before , how he will find his  pumpkins  I do not  know .

Moral here is  make sure you have a clean seedbed ,and have some form  weed control .

They are starting to harvest the pumpkins in this field ,as I drove past ,they seem to be doing a lot of walking ,looking for the pumpkin's .

Talking to  a guy who has 20 rie of pumpkins  1 km up the road , a lot cleaner crop ,he was hoping  to sell  his pumpkin's at 10 baht /kg , but is only getting  6 baht/kg ,but he said he hopes to get 100 000baht for his crop ,we shall see,  his investment  was only 10 000 baht ,his seed  was his own kept back from the year before.

Most of his crop  is brought by a middle man ,who sends them   to the Dalart-Thai ,at Rangsit ,Bangkok .

 A few years ago  pumpkin  prices were low ,only 2 baht /kg , this guy's   brother had a crop ,said  no money in selling at  that price ,so he  chopped them up and feed them to his dairy cows ,pumpkins are a high engage feed ,his  cows loved them and  his  milk yield increased , for a few weeks .

[farmerjo]

A big thankyou to Ron who has retrieved the pics for this thread.

 

Wont be anything happening on this short stay at the farm,just watching it rain.

Good to hear some reasonable prices out there.

My neighbour is yet to harvest his corn(good crop for here),i hope it doesn't go black on him with all the moisture around.

OIherwise all the sugar crops looking good and a lot of rice fields still being transplanted.

Happy farming. 

 

 

[kickstart]

We had some flash floods two days ago ,these photos I took where the following morning ,next  to  a road  this crop was all in flower ,if the water recedes a quick as it was flooded it should be ok .water was  going in to a culvert under the road.

Guy end of  our Soi  started harvesting  his maize crop ,first I have seen in this area  , he is Hack -Khowport,  harvesting the corn on the cobs ,and it looks a good crop , he said  he is getting  4.50Baht/kg at 32%  moisture ,he then said  the price will drop  to 4 baht/kg, in about 10 days ,as more crops come on to the market .

Most farmers say  at 4.50baht/kg ,they will do ok ,but at 4 baht/kg not a lot to be made ,the pickers want 40-50 baht /bag ,a bag is a big rice sack ,weighing 80-90 kg ,then the lads picking up the sacks ,loading them on to a trailer  want 10 baht /sack ,this guy had a  big truck and trailer ,that will cost  the grower a few thousand baht in transport costs ,to the buyer ,most use tractor and trailers to haul  they crop  to the buyer ,we used  ,one guy  to do  our hauling ,had the wheel come off his trailer ,yours truly was on top of the load at the time ,put a good grove in the road  where the trailer hub landed ,we did it one year with our tractor and trailer ,and had a puncher on the trailer ,on a main  road  .the joys of farming.

[Pseacraft]

Lucky it is draining with some authority it looks.  A few years back our 20 rai of rice was flooded under 2+ meters of water...new canal in the natural drainage path was blocked by a stubborn landowner so they dyked it all off blocking the natural drainage and screwed two villages.  Took forever to drain off

[wayned]

On 8/31/2016 at 9:58 PM, kickstart said:

We had some flash floods two days ago ,these photos I took where the following morning ,next  to  a road  this crop was all in flower ,if the water recedes a quick as it was flooded it should be ok .water was  going in to a culvert under the road.

Guy end of  our Soi  started harvesting  his maize crop ,first I have seen in this area  , he is Hack -Khowport,  harvesting the corn on the cobs ,and it looks a good crop , he said  he is getting  4.50Baht/kg at 32%  moisture ,he then said  the price will drop  to 4 baht/kg, in about 10 days ,as more crops come on to the market .

Most farmers say  at 4.50baht/kg ,they will do ok ,but at 4 baht/kg not a lot to be made ,the pickers want 40-50 baht /bag ,a bag is a big rice sack ,weighing 80-90 kg ,then the lads picking up the sacks ,loading them on to a trailer  want 10 baht /sack ,this guy had a  big truck and trailer ,that will cost  the grower a few thousand baht in transport costs ,to the buyer ,most use tractor and trailers to haul  they crop  to the buyer ,we used  ,one guy  to do  our hauling ,had the wheel come off his trailer ,yours truly was on top of the load at the time ,put a good grove in the road  where the trailer hub landed ,we did it one year with our tractor and trailer ,and had a puncher on the trailer ,on a main  road  .the joys of farming.

 

[wayned]

The new beast is up and operational after some problems with the turbo charger - broken shaft.  The harvesting of the small amount of corn that was planted in late April continues but the yield is very low and the bottom has dropped out of the selling price.  I only had 2 rai, but the average yield is around 700 kilos/rai and the current price for 15% moisture has dropped to 7.1 baht/kilo.  We are buying for 5.5 baht/kilo at 30%.  It's hardly worth the effort at 3850 baht/rai.

 

The corn that was planted in mid July is doing well and the yield should be higher but who knows what the price will be.

[kickstart]

Hi  wayned

A couple of  photos from the  SIMA- ASEAN show in  Bangkok  ,the machine strips the cobs from the maize plant ,up the elevator in to a hopper , looks if it does 2 rows at a time ,it was on the  Thai  Department of Agriculture   stand .

 

5.5 baht  /kg,that would  make it 3.5 baht /kg  for corn  on the  cob ,still  a lot of farmers doing it that way around here .

One  guy  near  here round here rent  20 rie at 1000 baht /rie ,he has his own  equipment  and uses a combine  to  harvest the  crop ,but at 5.5baht/kg , he will not be making a lot .

 

As far as  I know around here it s about 6  baht/kg  at 30 % moisture  ,but still not a lot ,as you say  is it worth it .

 

Like you  our  latter sown crops  are doing ok  but a shower of rain  would nod not go a miss , so far this month  I have recorded 7 mm of rain fall, but it is all going to change  this week  we are going to stat cutting grass for silage tomorrow  ,bound to rain .

 

You did well with the new beast ,broken turbo charger  shaft ,have known  engines  with  broken turbo 's  to go  bang big time

 

 

 

 

[kickstart]

On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2559 at 10:08 PM, kickstart said:

Hi  FJ

          Out today and found this crop of pumpkins, all this rain we have had  ,the grass weeds  are growing well ,this crop  has about the most weeds I have ever seen in a crop of pumpkins ,and this  guy  has grown  pumpkins  before , how he will find his  pumpkins  I do not  know .

Moral here is  make sure you have a clean seedbed ,and have some form  weed control .

Pumpkin  up date.

I meet the pumpkin   guy  a few days ago ,he  sold  all  his  crop for 6 baht/kg ,he said  after expenses  he made about 100 000 baht  not bad on 20  rie  ,what  his own labour costs were I do not know  ,not that Thai's  include   labour  costs ,in there businesses.

[kickstart]

Hi wayned

                  Talking  to a  farmer  this evening, he was saying about the price of his maize crop, he sold his maize  on the cob ,got 4.50baht/kg ,like a lot of farmers was hoping for a bit more .

 

The buyer who brought his crop ,is a big  buyer ,and this guy said  they are buying maize from  Cambodia  ,he saw a truck and trailer being  unloaded  from Cambodia, this buyer   has got all the equipment  for  cleaning  and grading, with 2 feed mills nearby  one is a  Betagro,  producing a  good few thousand  ton of livestock  and fish  food, and now pet food , he must be on to a good thing,   maize coming  from  Cambodia must be cheaper   then  produced  in Thailand . undercutting  the Thai  market ?

 

Just been looking at Google , Betagro  have just  opened a  feed mill near Phnom Penh, producing  2000 000 ton of  feed a year ,would   have  thought   they would  want   all  they own maize  for they own market ,could  understand ready made livestock  food  coming in to Thailand ,but maize corn ,transport ,boarder tax ,it must pay or they would not do it .

[kickstart]

Combining  maize in our soi, not the cleanest of crops , the crop  owner  and  some of his mates were there, the talk was about  the  Cambodian  imports of maize ,this guy  is getting  5 baht/kg  ,moisture  will be high ,now even higher,15 minuets  after  these  photos we had 22 mm of rain .  there where 3 combines doing this 25  rie  field.

The low price  of maize  a lot of farmers are  growing  mung   beans as a second crop ,hoping to  make more  money than   growing maize.

[wayned]

The late April planting has now been harvested and now it's a wait for another month or so before the mid July planting will be ready. 

 

The harvest yielded about 700 - 750 kilos per rai, full ears but very small, I assume due to the drought, and the harvesting was hampered by the continuous rai - just backwards!  Corn price is still hovering around 7 baht/kilo at 15%, so we're still paying around 5.5.

 

One story about the rain somehow exemplifies Thai thinking.  The road from  the next village over to highway 11, about 4 kilometers was much like ours, a combination of dirt and gravel and small patches of crumpled blacktop.  You could not use it in rainy season since one area was totally under water due to natural drainage .  During the dry spell they built it all up and put a thin layer of blacktop all of the way to highway 11.  They built it up so high that the wires along highway 11 are now held up with long poles so the trucks can get under.  But when they built it up they did not put any drainage pipes under it so the so there is no longer any natural drainage of the fields north of the road.

 

The corn that was planted in these fields was ready for harvest but there was no way we could do it with our JD combines as they are not tracked and only 2 wheel drive.  So they brought in an old tracked combine.  He made one pass and on the return hit an area that was really soft and bogged down almost turning it over.  They tried numerous ways of trying to pull it out but I left when the cable hooked to the bucket of a big backhoe snapped and flew around looking for some heads to sever.  They finally finished harvest by hand and got the combine out somehow as I see that it's gone.

 

The next step is dig up the newly laid road to put drainage pipes in.  Now that I think of it it's not unlike what they do in America.  They widen and put in a new road because if they don't do it by a certain date they will loose the money and two months later dig it all up to put in sewers because the money wasn't approved in time to do it before the road was widened!

[farmerjo]

Back in LOS a week so took the family on a short excursion(crop tour) down through chyrapuim,saraburi to pak tho(i now call it big yung) south of bangkok then back up through lopburi,petchabun to lomsak and home.

Very impressed with the corn crops i saw along the way,cassava seemed to be thriving as well,probably a 60/40 (corn to cassava ratio).

Sugar looks a lot more advanced up our way.

Hope Wayne's got those JD'S well greased,next month could be busy.

[kickstart]

Hi FJ

         And welcome back to a  wet LOS  ,as  you found  out  when you came down our  way,  what is the price of  maize  where you are ,around here it is still  5 baht/kg ,had no rain  now for almost a  week ,but with  108 mm falling  in less than 3 days  last week ,we do not need any more , some farmers are saying  that is that for this year  no more  rain , I hope not  we could  do with some  in about 10 days,  water the Napier  grass  for some more  silage so far this  year well down  yield  compared to  last year    

 Combines  are  working ,mainly  ones on tracks ,still   too wet  for the heavier   wheeled   combines   moisture  has come  down a bit ,one guy said  about  30%.

Some sun flowers being drilled ,if we do get some more rain  on some of our black  land ,they could some problems ,sun flowers  do not like to get they feet  wet .mung beans  are  looking well,  lets hope  the price is good   

[wayned]

Had about the same amount of rain here and the only combine that can get in the fields is the one with tracks.  It's not rained for a few days and is drying out.

 

I've got 10 sets of bearing blocks that arrived at the post office yesterday for the straw walkers sitting in the post office awaiting pickup once they open back up.  $25 wooden blocks that  are not available anywhere in Thailand according to the Lopburi JD dealer.  I bought the last two sets the the dealer in Anthong had a few months ago, I had to send someone to pick them up as he wouldn't ship them to me even if I did a bank transfer and prepaid the EMS.  Two pieces of hardwood with an 1.25 diameter hole!

 

FIL's charcoal pit has filled up with water and with all of the rain night crawlers are everywhere.  I thought about buying a cheap fishing rod using them as bait and taking a cooler of beer and sit under the tree by the charcoal pit and try my luck. I would catch exactly what I expect, nothing, but would enjoy doing it.

[Jayehl]

Good day to all in the Maize and Rotational Crops Forum!

 

I am Jay from Philippines.  I am looking for glutinous or waxy white corn (maize) for human consumption.  I have attached a photo of the exact grain I am looking for.  I know that Thailand's land is rich in Agriculture and Maize is a yearly crop.  I was just wondering if you know any locations that grow this type of maize, or if you know any dealers or big buying stations that can export these white corn in bulk.  I have searched in the internet, and found out that many African scammers are pretending to be Thai companies and so I searched again and again until I found this Thai Forum.  Hopefully, I may get answers and help from you, genuine forum users.  I cannot speak the Thai language so me searching the internet is also limited to english topics.  Please if you know any farmers or any buying stations and agents, please, do refer to me.  We are serious buyers with monthly requirements.  And we hope someone from Thailand can export this particular waxy white corn for human consumption to us.  Thank you very much in advance.  Hope to hear from anyone soon.

 

-Thank you to the friendly forum user who suggested to me posting this in here.
 

[wayned]

As I told you on the PMs that we exchanged, most of the farmers around here grow yellow corn.  I googled "white corn for consumption in Thailand" and there are a couple in Thailand with the ability to supply the quantities that you want. This supplier says that he can supply up to 3000 tons/month, minimum order 100 tons, to Bangkok port.  If you are trying to eliminate the "middle man" I don't think that that will happen as the farmers here do not have the facilities to dry and store the crop to meet your monthly requirements as they sell the one or two harvests/year to a distribute r.  They also do not have the ability to coordinate the export process.  Here's the one that advertises that he can supply 3000 tons/month with a minimum order of 100 tons to Bangkok port, https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/White-Corn-White-Maize_50029007700.html.  

As I said , Good luck!

[farmerjo]

Got my wish and bought a tractor crawler which i think will suit my needs better on the farm.

It's going to be a headache getting spares as i'm finding out already but all part of the challenge.

Biggest mistake was taking my wife and kids to look at machines when i should have gone alone,even with the research i put in i really needed a few days extra to way up the pros and cons.

Anyway i have it now and after a few extra repairs it will be operational within the next week.

My first tractor with airconditioning as well.

The old ford i can now concentrate on setting up a pump and sprinkler off the pto which will have the horsepower to cover an 85 metre diameter with the sprinkler.It's nice to be back on the farm.

 

 

 

[wayned]

Congratulations, I guess!!  Now that you have air con don't forget the fridge, stereo and satellite TV.  Getting parts will probably be a real treat like getting parts for my three beasts.  I did a quick search for Morooka distributors and it looks like the closest is in Mandalay!

 

[kickstart]

18 hours ago, wayned said:

As I told you on the PMs that we exchanged, most of the farmers around here grow yellow corn.  I googled "white corn for consumption in Thailand" and there are a couple in Thailand with the ability to supply the quantities that you want. This supplier says that he can supply up to 3000 tons/month, minimum order 100 tons, to Bangkok port.  If you are trying to eliminate the "middle man" I don't think that that will happen as the farmers here do not have the facilities to dry and store the crop to meet your monthly requirements as they sell the one or two harvests/year to a distribute r.  They also do not have the ability to coordinate the export process.  Here's the one that advertises that he can supply 3000 tons/month with a minimum order of 100 tons to Bangkok port, https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/White-Corn-White-Maize_50029007700.html.  

As I said , Good luck!

 I was thinking  of logistics' ,by the time  the Thai supplier  got together  2-300 ton ,got to the port , loaded on a ship got to the Philippines   unloaded , got to the  OP ,what state  will the corn be in ,about only fit  to feed cattle ?,as you said  moisture  will be a problem ,no way can you send corn at 30% moisture  and hope it will arrive in good condition, even if the corn  is in 20 ton container ,it will heat up and spoil.

 

I said why not buy  Thai seed and  grow the corn  in the OP's  own country , never been to the Philippines  ,but  growing  conditions  must be  similar  to Thailand .

[Jayehl]

To Kickstart:

No what I meant about moisture is that the corn should be well dried until it is opaque and not transparent in color.  If only I can get contacts of distributors who deal with these type of grain in Thailand and can export 1x20 or 1x40... as long as the same grain we look for, we will get all his supply.  Philippines have white corn but not much also, so I was thinking if maybe growing conditions are similar in Thailand, I was hoping Thailand has these type of white corn as in the photo.  Thank you.

 

To Wayned:

Yes I have looked in the internet.  The problem with Alibaba and all the other b2b sites, is that all the Thailand companies posted are African scammers from Cameroon.  I think they are taking advantage of the fact that Thais dont know how to communicate with english so they pose as Thailand companies who can communicate in English and scam foreign importers who would like to source from Thailand.  All I have contacted, more than 10, are scammers.   Only one i have not ruled out completely which is Zoros .  But chances are this is scammer also.

ZOROS PROMMASON
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>> Phrapradaeng, Samutprakarn 10130. Thailand
>> Email: [email protected]
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>> Mr Mohammed Malakai Ibrahim
>> Sales Manager
 

Thanks Wayned for suggesting I post here. Good day.

 

To Farmerjo:

Congratulations on the tractor.  Thanks for suggesting i pm redbullhorn.