sweatalot Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Will there be a background check on people like K. Suthep? Definitely a place to start to show impartiality The Yingluck government did that for sure for the last 15 years - and if they did not find anything or could not even make it up then there is nothing. Believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I watched his recent weekly address and he used the term "independent thinking" in trying to help farmers have better lives. also trying to weed out the middlemen that profit at farmers expense and assuring them the government will be on their side along the journey. not so bad and someone has to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaacorp Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Will there be a background check on people like K. Suthep? Definitely a place to start to show impartiality The Yingluck government did that for sure for the last 15 years - and if they did not find anything or could not even make it up then there is nothing. Believe me Nothing on Suthep? You re the only one who think that then...even his own party thought he was too corrupted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I suspect a lot of this corruption is historical and related to illegal use of land which belongs to the state. I know for sure the army have been spotted photographing various buildings around these parts recently. There's definitely going to be trouble for some people ahead. Things are going to accelerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher0826 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sorry for the off topic, but to member Promax, please tell me the name of this school, I have been a teacher here in Thailand for over 24 years and work with the Ministry of Education. It is one thing to steal or cheat grown-ups but to steal money from children and especially poor childeren that has to stop and they need to be exposed. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I wonder if he will look at the army, or will it just be a selective war on corruption. Who has the most money will escape corruption charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 They can kick-off any time they want, it is still going to take many, many generations to normalise a law-and-order ethos in society, and to make corruption into a rare orchid rather than the ubiquitous perennial weeds we see today. But even a slow and selective start, is better than no start at all, at least this is my hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Maybe good news at last on the corruption front but it has to be done across the board. Not just the top tier like the government officials but with the lower ranks such as the police and school teachers. Heard one such case only last week. My wife has neices and nephews who are aged between 6 and 8 who go to the local village school. The pupils are 'encouraged to save money' with their teachers, normally about 5B a day. The neice came home the other day asking for my wife to now keep any money she saves as she does not want to give to the teacher. This action was sparked when the nephew was told he had accumaleted savings with the teacher of 400B but he could not have it back as the teacher had no money to give him. Some of the children were given back the money they saved by some teachers, but other teachers would not give back at all. 5B a day for 30 children in a class is a lot of extra cash to top up one's wages. The parent's however are afraid to go and see the teacher or tell their children not to give the teacher money as they fear the children will be victimised by the teacher. This is the sort of corruption that should be stamped on before the children except this as a way of life, and do similar when they grow up. Reading this prompted the following non Thainess idea: In the short term maybe the Thai teachers should be replaced with Farang teachers in the first grade. The kids could be taught English when they are young and the classes could therefore be taught in English. This old con by you wife to get you give money for nieces and nephews education I know you wife is different Tell you wife to be a teacher not a con art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Purge II Wars on nouns are stupid things... tackling corruption means combining transparency and access to information with the appropriate laws. Corruption has existed since the beginning of time and it always will - that is human nature. Addressing it is a question of processes, not wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 He's only been in power for a year and the war has just about to be declared. I suppose sorting out lottery ticket prices, bike lanes and deck chair mafia are more important. Think about it mate---this job needs more than 12 soldiers to sort out------so your last sentence is strange, as it is used by the anti PM brigade and has now got whiskers on. Thailand needs encouragement not cheap shots like this. I do not condone all, but I do see when things are moving on and I am not in denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Would one like to guess how many of those names would be north or south of BKK??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldgit Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Off topic post and quoted replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thai talk is cheap. Let's see some actual busts of Tai big men, Thai bankers, and Thai business cronies. Let's see them cuffed, charged, indicted and arraigned and tried. Steep jail time handed out for those found guilty. Same could be said for probably every country in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Thai talk is cheap. Let's see some actual busts of Tai big men, Thai bankers, and Thai business cronies. Let's see them cuffed, charged, indicted and arraigned and tried. Steep jail time handed out for those found guilty. Don't forget , ?!?!....having pictures published of them with someone pointing a finger at them.....!!! love to see that.....couldn't be too soon....! Edited May 28, 2015 by off road pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Start from the bottom and work your way up to a certain level......Then its time for election so face saved...... Yes I am quoting myself. After some thought, above statement might not be a joke after all. It may very well be the best approach as firstly; ending the low level officials tea money will have direct impact on public perception, secondly it will gradually dry out the streams of money flowing upwards through the hierarchy. it will stamp out corruption from the roots up so to speak. targeting some high level land grabbers or mega projects corruption may bring headlines, but will do little to stop the endemic corruption at all levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Purge II Wars on nouns are stupid things... tackling corruption means combining transparency and access to information with the appropriate laws. Corruption has existed since the beginning of time and it always will - that is human nature. Addressing it is a question of processes, not wars. Very true. Unfortunately most of the posters here aren't smart enough to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvy Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 This PM is the best thing that has happened to Thailand . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Always good to start the day with a joke Start soon......BUT SOON NEVER COMES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterbkk7 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bravo Prayut. This country is totally messed up. The general is trying to improve things and I admire him for that. I am more cynical for the future. New governments will eventually come to power. Things will go back to their "natural state". Corruption, scams, lies. It is ingrained in their DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 A post containing a totally inappropriate image has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thai talk is cheap. Let's see some actual busts of Tai big men, Thai bankers, and Thai business cronies. Let's see them cuffed, charged, indicted and arraigned and tried. Steep jail time handed out for those found guilty. Yes indeed. When a significant number of big men are brought down, and actually receive sentences from some of the softest and most compromised judges on the planet, then we may start believing he is serious. Until then, just a lot more jaw boning, to pander to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Yes. Do start! But make sure cronies have been given time to dispose, hide, transfer assets obtained via corruption in the past. And I still wonder how career military men amass millions on a mere government salary. Care to guess? Think the trucks full of millions of Thai baht that are being caught at the Laos border represent the corrupt officials trying to rapidly get their money of Thailand. Too funny for words. Guess this clearly shows they were tipped off. Edited May 28, 2015 by EyesWideOpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Just a load of bull shit talk then` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysilly Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Nice that the government are warning people. No surprise raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hey! At least this current PM is trying to start battling corruption, and that is better than the last bunch of years! Baby steps, and small steps are all progress. I just hope he can clean up even some of the corruption in Thailand, it is all progress toward a better country. Look at the recent FIFA news, I keep getting a bit hopeful when I see a big organization like that finally getting investigated, after all of the years their corruption has existed! I guess a lot more toes have to be stepped on, and more eggs have to break, and a lot more people have to be affected before everyone can see the corruption levels actually decreasing. Time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhp Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 a war on corruption, across the board or with certain notable exceptions ? Himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaacorp Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Maybe good news at last on the corruption front but it has to be done across the board. Not just the top tier like the government officials but with the lower ranks such as the police and school teachers. Heard one such case only last week. My wife has neices and nephews who are aged between 6 and 8 who go to the local village school. The pupils are 'encouraged to save money' with their teachers, normally about 5B a day. The neice came home the other day asking for my wife to now keep any money she saves as she does not want to give to the teacher. This action was sparked when the nephew was told he had accumaleted savings with the teacher of 400B but he could not have it back as the teacher had no money to give him. Some of the children were given back the money they saved by some teachers, but other teachers would not give back at all. 5B a day for 30 children in a class is a lot of extra cash to top up one's wages. The parent's however are afraid to go and see the teacher or tell their children not to give the teacher money as they fear the children will be victimised by the teacher. This is the sort of corruption that should be stamped on before the children except this as a way of life, and do similar when they grow up. Reading this prompted the following non Thainess idea: In the short term maybe the Thai teachers should be replaced with Farang teachers in the first grade. The kids could be taught English when they are young and the classes could therefore be taught in English. This old con by you wife to get you give money for nieces and nephews education I know you wife is different Tell you wife to be a teacher not a con art Not everyone has the luck to be in Pattaya to see the best of thai girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Forgot to add, this excludes the boys in brown, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) " Ok chaps ! . We have given the filthy corrupt Government Officials, Local Officials, Police Officers and Business leaders ( to name a few ), a full year now to get their finances in order, so nows the perfect time for a major crackdown " Edited May 29, 2015 by Cake Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pormax Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Maybe good news at last on the corruption front but it has to be done across the board. Not just the top tier like the government officials but with the lower ranks such as the police and school teachers. Heard one such case only last week. My wife has neices and nephews who are aged between 6 and 8 who go to the local village school. The pupils are 'encouraged to save money' with their teachers, normally about 5B a day. The neice came home the other day asking for my wife to now keep any money she saves as she does not want to give to the teacher. This action was sparked when the nephew was told he had accumaleted savings with the teacher of 400B but he could not have it back as the teacher had no money to give him. Some of the children were given back the money they saved by some teachers, but other teachers would not give back at all. 5B a day for 30 children in a class is a lot of extra cash to top up one's wages. The parent's however are afraid to go and see the teacher or tell their children not to give the teacher money as they fear the children will be victimised by the teacher. This is the sort of corruption that should be stamped on before the children except this as a way of life, and do similar when they grow up. My wife has been a government teacher for 26 years and has never received any money from any corrupt act. Now school directors are a different story. But if she wanted a transfer to another school she would have to pay 200,000 baht to get it. I think teachers are at the bottom of the ladder in terms of corrupt government officials with little or no opportunity to jump on the gravy train. Whilst i do not doubt the sincerity of your post doing the maths it does seem a lot of work for a small return and a lot of potential hassle from parents. 30 children x 5 baht a day x 180 days a year school is open = 27,000 baht a year that's assuming every child pays and the teacher returns nothing. My post was sincere and I am not saying all Thai teachers are currupt. By the law of averages there must be some honest ones. However small the amount taken from the children, it is still wrong. To some pupils 200B or more is a very large sum of money especially in a rural village where every baht counts for some families. I don't agree that it takes a lot of work to take the childrens money, the teacher just holds the hand out and puts the money in the pocket, meanwhile time taken to do this is less time they have to try and teach. Yes a maximum 27,000B extra for such a heinious crime is not a lot but I doubt they do this just for the extra money but because 'I can' attitude, and it makes them feel big and powerful, the same as when those teachers in the school still take scissors or an electric razor to a pupils head if, in their opinion, the hair is too long. There is no hassle from parents as Thais do not like confrontation and know if they do complain their child could suffer in school besides this could have happened in their time at school and now they just accept it as a way of life. It also sends out the wrong message to the children who will grow up accepting this way of life and perhaps will follow the teachers lead. In my days at school we were taught the difference between right and wrong by teachers aswell as our parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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