Americans split on whether Clinton cares about their needs

[arjunadawn]

She is a sleeper, an Alinsky radical, and a deeply despotic woman, at her best. Hillary represents all that is wrong with America, and the natural symbiosis of greed and politics. Because she urinates sitting down does not remotely mean she is a woman's advocate. Because she has flown around the world hardly qualifies as international credentials- she has crapped the bed on every overseas policy initiative she has touched, including instigating a war contrary to the Pentagon recommendations. Hungry for war, thirsty for murder, she could only note upon Qaddafi's death:

This is a sick, pathological, unguarded moment in the mindset of Hillary Clinton. What person says such a thing flippantly or otherwise? Only someone detached from reality and addicted to raw power would reveal such a dark Freudian streak. At best, a damn teenager might say some dumbass remark like this. A bought and paid for tool of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hillary used the US government to murder people who were vehemently opposed to jihadis and the muslim brotherhood. Dress it anyway one wishes, but as a human being, she is garbage.

Edited June 4, 2015 by arjunadawn

[GoodThaiGirl]

Hillary rightfully hates 1%ers. She thinks they are losers because she and Bill are .001%ers.

no..the real losers arethe american voters who have no choice in who they are voting for.a 2 party race same as the uk..thats not real democracy elites but with a different accent..

[MockingJay]

If one ever finds a politician who truly cares about the peoples' needs, please point him out to me! Haven't seen one in over 50 years...

As long as the puppeteer won't change, it does not matter which doll he choses... the script will rermain the same.

[NeverSure]

I suspect that the far left and the far right might prove the political spectrum is a CIRCLE.

There is much the two extremes actually agree upon. Hating the TPP is one example.

Here is a good read as to why Hillary can not win - or won't have any options if she pulls it through.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/06/my-prediction-bernie-sanders-will-win-the-white-house.html

Bernie Sanders the communist.

[MockingJay]

She is a sleeper, an Alinsky radical, and a deeply despotic woman, at her best. Hillary represents all that is wrong with America, and the natural symbiosis of greed and politics. Because she urinates sitting down does not remotely mean she is a woman's advocate. Because she has flown around the world hardly qualifies as international credentials- she has crapped the bed on every overseas policy initiative she has touched, including instigating a war contrary to the Pentagon recommendations. Hungry for war, thirsty for murder, she could only note upon Qaddafi's death:

This is a sick, pathological, unguarded moment in the mindset of Hillary Clinton. What person says such a thing flippantly or otherwise? Only someone detached from reality and addicted to raw power would reveal such a dark Freudian streak. At best, a damn teenager might say some dumbass remark like this. A bought and paid for tool of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hillary used the US government to murder people who were vehemently opposed to jihadis and the muslim brotherhood. Dress it anyway one wishes, but as a human being, she is garbage.

This can't be copied and shared often enough! Wake up people!!! Thanks, Arjunadawn for posting this!

[MockingJay]

I think John Lennon rounded it all up perfectly back in 1968...

[MaxYakov]

By the time of the actual election, the "scandals" will be fully digested and largely irrelevant. Hillary haters wouldn't ever vote for her anyway, blown up Fox News "scandals" or not.

This isn't Fox News, JT. It's the liberal MSM. This latest poll is CNN and the AP and The New York Times are trying to destroy her. They want to get rid of her. If she goes out and runs into a reporter she gets grilled.

It's her own party that wants to lose her because of her baggage. Her poll numbers are dropping and when other viable candidates realize she's vulnerable there will be competition. The "long game" isn't on her side.

The reason her poll numbers are dropping among those who would be her supporters is the negative from the liberal MSM.

The Clintons have been in the spotlight for a long time, so there is little to uncover. The 'scandals' if you can call them that, were being waged by the far right wing since way back in Bill's day.

That said, my perception of her has changed toward the negative. I am reasonably sure there is a strategy behind all of this. She hasn't really pulled out the big guns yet and the biggest of them all is Bill.

I never cared much for Obama (I would have much preferred Hillary over him during the last primary), but when Bill Clinton introduced him, it was a mesmerizing speech. They don't call him 'slick Willy' for nothing.

As far as the Clintons and their wealth goes, I have no problem. They have seen lean times and they have seen good times. They do not have family fortunes backing them and not invested in any particular business sector. They have spent their lives as public servants. It's provided well for them, no doubt.

That would be the "vast right-wing conspiracy", I believe:

Scandals, what scandals? We no see no stinkin' scandals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYW5nmS9ps

Public servants?! About the only thing I agree with is that, yes indeedy, Bill is (or was) certainly a "big gun".

Edited June 4, 2015 by MaxYakov

[ABCer]

I really hope the OP reports a split that does not exist.

If it really existed it would be a proof of Americans being stupid.

Hillary does not care about Americans.

Bill didn't care either.

No politician cares about the people.

But they will tell you what you want to hear. All of them are full of lies.

Name any President of any nation in any country at any time who really cared about people. Just one?

It's like believing that FIFA cares about football. One must be a real fan...

Edited June 4, 2015 by ABCer

[slerickson]

Bernie Sanders. For the people.

[Jingthing]

Bernie Sanders. For the people.

Colonel Sanders (RIP) has just as good a chance.

[Pinot]

The disgusting vitriol rolls through any post that mentions either HRC or Obama. Who do the teabags hate the most? And oh, do they hate.

Getting back to the original question, do Americans think Hillary Clinton cares about their needs? I don't know. Who cares? She doesn't care about mine but I know her heart is in the right place.

Besides, what is exactly is the alternative? No, not one single selfish, hypocritical, flaming idiot aboard the the Republican Clown Bus gives a shit about Americans.

HRC is a slam dunk. She'll be an excellent President. She'll have a great right hand man.

Benghazi.

[lostoday]

The disgusting vitriol rolls through any post that mentions either HRC or Obama. Who do the teabags hate the most? And oh, do they hate.

Getting back to the original question, do Americans think Hillary Clinton cares about their needs? I don't know. Who cares? She doesn't care about mine but I know her heart is in the right place.

Besides, what is exactly is the alternative? No, not one single selfish, hypocritical, flaming idiot aboard the the Republican Clown Bus gives a shit about Americans.

HRC is a slam dunk. She'll be an excellent President. She'll have a great right hand man.

Benghazi.

I think there is about 300 better choices. Check out below. Not a Yank eh? Easy to tell. No knowledge of American politics.

http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm

[sdanielmcev]

The strategy is that she plans to win so will peak at the end. She's lowering expectations so she can exceed them later.

Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Playing the long game? JT, please don't open up a political consulting firm. Even t-ball kids know better than that.

And to anyone else, please show what Clinton brings to the table. Maybe her platform? She's playing the same game as last time, and some unknown knocked her off the top.

[nojoma]

think on the bright side folks.......the most inept president in the nation's history be gone

[Jingthing]

think on the bright side folks.......the most inept president in the nation's history be gone

Now be kind.

George W. Bush's primitive paintings are rather charming.

[ABCer]

Jingthing: "She won't be AS bad as the GOP stuffed suit."

There is almost a million different definitions of pessimism vs optimism.

One of them says:

Pessimist: - " Things are so bad that they can't be any worse".

Optimist: - " They sure can..."

JT, I almost envy your faith in a woman.

Anyway, in the present climate of Political Correctness the only winning candidate must be

a woman,

black,

Muslim,

non-traditionally sex-oriented,

capable of quoting Julius Ceasar correctly.

Edited June 4, 2015 by ABCer

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.

[elgordo38]

Your best bet is to listen to Fox News they always tell you the truth in fact Hillary Clinton is about all they have to talk about(Ye gad what a terrible station). If Americans hand the White House over to the Republicans and they control all 3 levers of power goodbye food stamps and all other welfare policies hello need to work policies limited benefits and the balance saved will be handed to big business in more tax breaks. You will then really be under the yoke of big government. Yes the Democrats have not done the best of job ruling but if voters vote in the Republicans into the White House due to frustration the smit will really hit the fan. Hillary is doddling to much and not coming out swinging enough. She is to passive and elections are all about timing. I hope she does not come out of the gate to late. It will then make the race for her an uphill battle.

[elgordo38]

"I want to be the president who takes care of people," Clinton told voters in New Hampshire last week. "I consider that my highest and most important responsibility."

I wonder how the voters would split on the issue of her obviously wanting to continue Obama's program of "fundamentally changing" the USA to European-style socialism (aka a "Nanny State").

Nanny Hillary has a ring to it, doesn't it?

What is a Nanny state? I guess you really did copyright/patent this phrase you use it so often. As it says in the bible "Who will be our brothers keeper?" hmm definitely not you. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[lostoday]

"I want to be the president who takes care of people," Clinton told voters in New Hampshire last week. "I consider that my highest and most important responsibility."

I wonder how the voters would split on the issue of her obviously wanting to continue Obama's program of "fundamentally changing" the USA to European-style socialism (aka a "Nanny State").

Nanny Hillary has a ring to it, doesn't it?

What is a Nanny state? I guess you really did copyright/patent this phrase you use it so often. As it says in the bible "Who will be our brothers keeper?" hmm definitely not you. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Who has absolute power in the West? I think that's a Thai concept isn't it?

[Jingthing]

Jingthing: "She won't be AS bad as the GOP stuffed suit."

There is almost a million different definitions of pessimism vs optimism.

One of them says:

Pessimist: - " Things are so bad that they can't be any worse".

Optimist: - " They sure can..."

JT, I almost envy your faith in a woman.

Anyway, in the present climate of Political Correctness the only winning candidate must be

a woman,

black,

Muslim,

non-traditionally sex-oriented,

capable of quoting Julius Ceasar correctly

You're clearly tripping.

At this point in history, an openly gay (or transgender) person could not be elected president. Nor a Muslim though I do see that Obama having a Muslim Daddy was something.

No, it's not as if I'm excited about Hillary.

I'm just realistic.

She will be nominated and I don't see anyone on the republican side that doesn't make me want to vomit.

[Asiantravel]

Jingthing: "She won't be AS bad as the GOP stuffed suit."

There is almost a million different definitions of pessimism vs optimism.

One of them says:

Pessimist: - " Things are so bad that they can't be any worse".

Optimist: - " They sure can..."

JT, I almost envy your faith in a woman.

Anyway, in the present climate of Political Correctness the only winning candidate must be

a woman,

black,

Muslim,

non-traditionally sex-oriented,

capable of quoting Julius Ceasar correctly

You're clearly tripping.

At this point in history, an openly gay (or transgender) person could not be elected president. Nor a Muslim though I do see that Obama having a Muslim Daddy was something.

No, it's not as if I'm excited about Hillary.

I'm just realistic.

She will be nominated and I don't see anyone on the republican side that doesn't make me want to vomit.

" I don't see anyone on the republican side that doesn't make me want to vomit. "

Are you saying that just because most Republicans don’t believe in giving away more money that USA simply doesn’t have?

For example why would doctor Ben Carson make you want to vomit? A person who has really contributed to society during his working life such as being the first surgeon to successfully separate cojoined twins joined at the head..

How have Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton ever contributed positively to society?

[Jingthing]

Ben Carson, more than most. He is a right wing extremist and also a hate monger under the cover of Christianity, kind of like PUTIN.

He should stay being a doctor, thank you very much.

[NeverSure]

Ben Carson, more than most. He is a right wing extremist and also a hate monger under the cover of Christianity, kind of like PUTIN.

He should stay being a doctor, thank you very much.

^^^Uh, Did you say "hate monger"? ^^^

[lostoday]

Ben Carson, more than most. He is a right wing extremist and also a hate monger under the cover of Christianity, kind of like PUTIN.

He should stay being a doctor, thank you very much.

Carson graduated from Yale University, where he majored in psychology.[11] He received his M.D. from the University of Michigan Medical School. He completed his residency in neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore.

Carson was a professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery, and pediatrics, and he was the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital. At 33, he became the youngest major division director in the hospital's history as director of pediatric neurosurgery. He was also a co-director of the Johns Hopkins Craniofacial Center.

Carson is a member of the American Academy of Achievement, and the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans. In 2000, he received the Award for Greatest Public Service Benefiting the Disadvantaged, an award given out annually by Jefferson Awards. In 2008, the White House awarded Carson the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. In 2010, he was elected into the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine.

Carson has been awarded 38 honorary doctorate degrees and dozens of national merit citations. In 2014, an American poll conducted by Gallup ranked Carson sixth on a list of the most admired men in the world.

[arjunadawn]

"I want to be the president who takes care of people," Clinton told voters in New Hampshire last week. "I consider that my highest and most important responsibility."

I wonder how the voters would split on the issue of her obviously wanting to continue Obama's program of "fundamentally changing" the USA to European-style socialism (aka a "Nanny State").

Nanny Hillary has a ring to it, doesn't it?

What is a Nanny state? I guess you really did copyright/patent this phrase you use it so often. As it says in the bible "Who will be our brothers keeper?" hmm definitely not you. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You ask the question rhetorically but it seems you dont grasp its meaning or relevance. The nanny state is the antithesis of industry, outcomes, fruit of labor, self reliance, limited government, express powers, state's rights, pulling one's self up from the boot straps, personal and collective independence, accomplishment, endeavor, imagination, and freedom- not to mention the entire premise of the American experiment in a Representative Republic. The nanny states renders retainers of those who take the "King's coin" and increasingly does not even hide they are expected to do the "King's bidding." The nanny state always aimed for equality in outcomes rather than opportunity and this aim was apparent from its supporters who long ago introduced a graduated tax to redistribute wealth- also a repugnant concept to the original framers. The progressive pedigree is fairly consistent and unbroken.

Why would someone stop referencing the sky as blue when it is consistently blue? Because an appellation seems worn and tired is an indictment of its utility, not over wrought language. This is why "nanny state" is used so often; it is an appropriate description of the progressive slide into European Socialism (...at the lucky end of possible outcomes. In Europe, the Nanny State did not insidiously usurp and existing framework of limited government and individual self reliance; the result will be much uglier in the USA). You may object to the use of "nanny state" but this hardly qualifies as valid protest.

Note: The militant exegesis of bible theology/interpretation that now presumes "It takes a village to raise a child" is wholly lacking in Judeochristian history. Self reliance, love, compassion, personal and community charity, and minimal intervention from the state are bedrock principles of the post enlightenment world, best exemplified by the US Declaration of Independence. The "collective" is a progressive socialist invention that is demonstrably traced to a known origin of corrupted thought from such human luminaries as The Fabian Society (Wolf in Sheep's Clothing), Wilson, E. Roosevelt, Trotsky, Lenin, Dewey, Pelosi, Obama, Clintonx2 and related ilk. "Our brother's keepers" has digressed into no more than a stalking horse for emotionally separating traditional values from their anchor, instilling baseless guilt whether it be "white guilt" "white privilege" or income disparity, and leveraging redistribution policies that are wholly political and societal re engineering, rather than actual charity. Charity by coercion is tyranny! Being forced to be someone's keeper is slavery.

Indeed, "power corrupts." This assertion actually nullifies your protest. Centralized power (to "keep" our "brothers"), amounts no more than a Leviathan- absolute power! That "power corrupts" absolutely is a commentary from a devout English Christian who was himself a champion of State's Rights, deploring out of control central government- the Nanny State- Leviathan! But you are not alone- Hillary also cares about such things. She wants to "keep" [you] too.

Edited June 5, 2015 by arjunadawn

[simple1]

Ben Carson, more than most. He is a right wing extremist and also a hate monger under the cover of Christianity, kind of like PUTIN.

He should stay being a doctor, thank you very much.

Carson on prisons and homosexuality

Cuomo: You think [people] have control over their sexuality?

Carson: Absolutely

Cuomo: You think being gay is a choice?

Carson: Absolutely

Cuomo: Why do you say that?

Carson: Because a lot of people go into prison straight, and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they're in there? Ask yourself that question.

Cuomo: Most gay people never go to prison—

Carson: Hold on. I said a lot of people who go in, come out [gay]. Are you denying that that's true?

Cuomo: I am not denying that's true, I'm denying that's the basis of homosexuality.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-politics-of-sexuality/386782/

Edited June 5, 2015 by simple1

[Jingthing]

Ben Carson, yes a far right wing extremist hate monger and twisted Christian "fundamentalist" (in similar ways that Iranian mullahs are "Islamic") AND an excellent doctor in his field, has almost has no chance of being nominated.

So why waste any more space here posting on his OFF TOPIC candidacy?

His title is DOCTOR Carson. That's fit.

President Carson ... never never never.

Edited June 5, 2015 by Jingthing

[lostoday]

Ben Carson, more than most. He is a right wing extremist and also a hate monger under the cover of Christianity, kind of like PUTIN.

He should stay being a doctor, thank you very much.

Carson on prisons and homosexuality

Cuomo: You think [people] have control over their sexuality?

Carson: Absolutely

Cuomo: You think being gay is a choice?

Carson: Absolutely

Cuomo: Why do you say that?

Carson: Because a lot of people go into prison straight, and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they're in there? Ask yourself that question.

Cuomo: Most gay people never go to prison—

Carson: Hold on. I said a lot of people who go in, come out [gay]. Are you denying that that's true?

Cuomo: I am not denying that's true, I'm denying that's the basis of homosexuality.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-politics-of-sexuality/386782/

Later that day, Carson backed away from his comments in a statement emailed to reporters. “I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation,” he said. “I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended.

[lostoday]

Ben Carson, yes a far right wing extremist hate monger and twisted Christian "fundamentalist" (in similar ways that Iranian mullahs are "Islamic") AND a good doctor in his field, has almost has no chance of being nominated.

So why waste any more space here posting on his OFF TOPIC candidacy?

Because you called the man that has been awarded "38 honorary doctorate degrees and dozens of national merit citations. In 2014, an American poll conducted by Gallup ranked Carson sixth on a list of the most admired men in the world" an extremist hate monger and twisted Christian fundamentalist.