work permit to work in partner's business, with no business registered?

[ALAV]

Hello,

I am just told that a foreigner married to a Thai person can apply for a work permit in order to work in her/his partner's business, even if the business is not registered as a partnership or corporation ... say a small restaurant.

Never heard of this before ...

If true, how does this work with taxes/social security? Same as if working for a company? I guess the business should at least run under a Thai Sole Trader Business, no?

Thanks

[ubonjoe]

Not true.

If married to a Thai you could get a work permit if you formed a partnership with your wife.

Or set up a limited company to get the work permit.

[ALAV]

Any kind of partnership (ordinary and limited)? Would the foreigner need to be one of the partners?

[Kirbicus]

Hi There,

I'd also like to know more info about this.

I read here on Thai visa some time ago that you could get a wp to 'help your wife' if she is a sole owner of a business (no problem there)The informationI said that you had to be married for two years or more (no problem there)

I recall that this is not well known as well from the information.

Obviously not a wage or anything like that just to help.

I'm interested to know if this is possible

Edited June 13, 2015 by Kirbicus

[yankee99]

I work for my wife Co.ltd. I am not a shareholder and have a work permit.

[Maggusoil]

I would also like to know if this work permit can be obtained with a partner, if one is not married as in de facto for 7 years with a child. If poss.

[NoshowJones]

Is it not the case that your wife must have so much money invested in the business or something similar?

I mean if it was possible for your wife to work for herself, and all you had to do was help her, and get a work permit, nearly all the Farangs

and retirees would be doing it. No need for so much money in the bank and 90 day reporting.

Mrs Possum is self employed, pays government taxes etc, I bet I can't just give her a little help and then get a work permit.

[Liquorice]

I would also like to know if this work permit can be obtained with a partner, if one is not married as in de facto for 7 years with a child. If poss.

No, you must be legally married.

[Liquorice]

Is it not the case that your wife must have so much money invested in the business or something similar?

I mean if it was possible for your wife to work for herself, and all you had to do was help her, and get a work permit, nearly all the Farangs

and retirees would be doing it. No need for so much money in the bank and 90 day reporting.

Mrs Possum is self employed, pays government taxes etc, I bet I can't just give her a little help and then get a work permit.

It depends on what her trade is and how you fit into that to help.

It's very much at the discretion of the Labour Dept and whether a Thai could do that job.

For example if you were preparing specialised western foods to be sold through your wife's café/restaurant then you could get a work permit based on that fact, and the basis that a Thai wouldn't have the knowledge or skill to prepare such food.

Each case is individual.

[yankee99]

You still need to follow the basic work permit rules. In chonburi 2 million baht company, 4 employees, VAT registered. Marriage has little effect on the work permit. Some claim only 2 employees are needed but not in chonburi ymmv. The main benefit is you dont need a business visa your marriage extension will suffice.

[thousandpercent]

Is it not the case that your wife must have so much money invested in the business or something similar?

I mean if it was possible for your wife to work for herself, and all you had to do was help her, and get a work permit, nearly all the Farangs

and retirees would be doing it. No need for so much money in the bank and 90 day reporting.

Mrs Possum is self employed, pays government taxes etc, I bet I can't just give her a little help and then get a work permit.

It depends on what her trade is and how you fit into that to help.

It's very much at the discretion of the Labour Dept and whether a Thai could do that job.

For example if you were preparing specialised western foods to be sold through your wife's café/restaurant then you could get a work permit based on that fact, and the basis that a Thai wouldn't have the knowledge or skill to prepare such food.

Each case is individual.

Whether or not a Thai could do a job has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not a foreigner can get a work permit to do it. Let's let this urban legend die, please.

[NoshowJones]

Is it not the case that your wife must have so much money invested in the business or something similar?

I mean if it was possible for your wife to work for herself, and all you had to do was help her, and get a work permit, nearly all the Farangs

and retirees would be doing it. No need for so much money in the bank and 90 day reporting.

Mrs Possum is self employed, pays government taxes etc, I bet I can't just give her a little help and then get a work permit.

It depends on what her trade is and how you fit into that to help.

It's very much at the discretion of the Labour Dept and whether a Thai could do that job.

For example if you were preparing specialised western foods to be sold through your wife's café/restaurant then you could get a work permit based on that fact, and the basis that a Thai wouldn't have the knowledge or skill to prepare such food.

Each case is individual.

Whether or not a Thai could do a job has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not a foreigner can get a work permit to do it. Let's let this urban legend die, please.

Could someone say whether Faz or Thousandpercent is right? What about you UbonJoe?

[ubonjoe]

Whether or not a Thai could do a job has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not a foreigner can get a work permit to do it. Let's let this urban legend die, please.

It is certainly not an urban legend. An employer must justify hiring a a foreigner instead of a Thai. It is mentioned in the working aliens act and ministerial regulations..

Have a look at 3 of this "FORM OF EMPLOYMENT CERTIFICATION" http://wp.doe.go.th/wp/images/form/form_employ.pdf

[Maggusoil]

I would also like to know if this work permit can be obtained with a partner, if one is not married as in de facto for 7 years with a child. If poss.

No, you must be legally married.

Thanks for that . ..

[ALAV]

Here is a link to an old thread, which answers the question. So it would appear that this can indeed be done under a Thai Sole Trader Business.

[yankee99]

Here is a link to an old thread, which answers the question. So it would appear that this can indeed be done under a Thai Sole Trader Business.

Just go to the final post in the link written by Arkadya

[ALAV]

Here is a link to an old thread, which answers the question. So it would appear that this can indeed be done under a Thai Sole Trader Business.

Just go to the final post in the link written by Arkadya

I have read that post too. What do you mean?

[yankee99]

Here is a link to an old thread, which answers the question. So it would appear that this can indeed be done under a Thai Sole Trader Business.

Just go to the final post in the link written by Arkadya

I have read that post too. What do you mean?

His advice is spot on and the best advice you will get. Only better advice will come from the labor office. Let tell you from personal experience there are no shortcuts for being married except in the visa department. Edited June 13, 2015 by yankee99

[ableguy]

Hi There,

I'd also like to know more info about this.

I read here on Thai visa some time ago that you could get a wp to 'help your wife' if she is a sole owner of a business (no problem there)The informationI said that you had to be married for two years or more (no problem there)

I recall that this is not well known as well from the information.

Obviously not a wage or anything like that just to help.

I'm interested to know if this is possible

Not true period.