banagan Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I forgot to pay my rent last month. Anyway, I get a note in my mail box from the landlord, with a bill that is 1,000 baht more than my rent. Is this normal carry on here? Edited June 12, 2015 by banagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Normally you are entitled to 7 days from the end of the month to pay your rent. Yes, if you read the fine print in your contract I would expect it will state the time given allowable to make rent dues to be paid, also I do know that most accomodation facilities do charge 100 - 300 baht per day for every day over the indicated time ... How does one forget to pay their rent .... ? Edited June 12, 2015 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I would say you got off light. What does your lease say? How much was the rent? Did you forget to pay May? Or June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I've never heard of anyone forgetting to pay their rent! Look in your contract. What does it say regarding late fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Forgot to pay your rent !! Charged 1000 baht for late payment serves you right. You will not forget again will you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Did the note say,the extra 1000 THB, was for late payment,or maybe the landlord has just increased your rent by 1000 THB. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Normally you are entitled to 7 days from the end of the month to pay your rent. Yes, if you read the fine print in your contract I would expect it will state the time given allowable to make rent dues to be paid, also I do know that most accomodation facilities do charge 100 - 300 baht per day for every day over the indicated time ... How does one forget to pay their rent .... ? Good question. It is usually the biggest payment a month. Did he run around wondering why he had so much spare cash. Now there was a time in my youth when such a thing could have happened to me. But I know the reason now. That time in my life was a big blur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalfred Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Landlords owners can do and charge what they want. No regulations in Thailand. Once they got your deposit its going to dwindle to nothing by the end of tenancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesflight Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not all landlord are bad. The owner of the last house we rented in Chiang Mai returned our deposit in full, despite the fact my daughter made a hole in the fly screen by the front door and scribbled on some of the walls (when I say 'we', I am referring to me and my partner, I'm not using the royal 'we'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx355 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) I had 2 landlords in the last 7 years, and I offered to pay the rent using an automatic bank transfer to their account. I cannot forget to pay as the transfer are done automatically. I asked to include the bank account number they use and the name of the owner of the bank account in the rental contract t0 avoid conflict. I set up an automated payment using my internet banking. Landlord using the same bank...no fees Landlord using another bank....25 bahts fee ..(cheap for peace of mind.) Edited June 13, 2015 by cnx355 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 What is in your contract? I had rental property in The States, always had a "late fee" clause In the contract, $50, if rent wasn't paid by the 3rd of the month. ( I had a mortgage to pay And the bank always had a late fee if the mortgage wasn't paid on time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) If you were renting from me and you "forgot" a months rent I'd be forcibly evicting you by now and you would forfeit your deposit. It would be different if you had an emergency and could not pay, but "forgot" ! Edited June 13, 2015 by technologybytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAppletons Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 If you were renting from me and you "forgot" a months rent I'd be forcibly evicting you by now and you would forfeit your deposit. It would be different if you had an emergency and could not pay, but "forgot" ! Internet bluster, blah, blah, blah. Really, if you had a tenant who was otherwise a very good tenant and was uncharacteristically late with the rent one month, you wouldn't simply call and ask them if there was a problem, remind the tenant he was late, stop by to inquire/collect, or engage in some other less drastic measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Really, if you had a tenant who was otherwise a very good tenant and was uncharacteristically late with the rent one month, you wouldn't simply call and ask them if there was a problem A good tenant does not "forget" to pay the rent. I assume you have never had tenants ! I have, and I have learned the hard way. There is no such thing as a good tenant who forgets the rent, I would call and see if there was a problem, if the tenant said he forgot I'd arrange a removals truck at my own expense! Edited June 13, 2015 by technologybytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 It is normal...my contract says that I have 5 days (until the 5th) and if still not there.....$1000 baht. All my past contracts said the 5th was the drop dead date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 What is normal, what the contract says or what is reasonable are of little relevance to the issue. If the landlord wants 1,000 Baht for it and does not get it without a bunch of bull shit, you can be assured that they will get a lot more from you someother way later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Really, if you had a tenant who was otherwise a very good tenant and was uncharacteristically late with the rent one month, you wouldn't simply call and ask them if there was a problem A good tenant does not "forget" to pay the rent. I assume you have never had tenants ! I have, and I have learned the hard way. There is no such thing as a good tenant who forgets the rent, I would call and see if there was a problem, if the tenant said he forgot I'd arrange a removals truck at my own expense! Doubt I have the stomach for dealing directly with renters but the worst story I heard of are tweekers who literally pulled the copper pipes out of a mates walls in the US to sell for drug money. (In our Condo they had a scummy little foreigner who only came out at night rent a Thai woman's room. Then he stopped paying anything, rent, electric, nothing. I think they had to get police involved to eject him). Edited June 13, 2015 by arunsakda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I hope you don't forget to put your underpants on in the morning ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmansions Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I have couple of houses and 10 room apartment and have 2 tenants who are always late and always have excuse on hand. Rent has not been paid this month, I have late fee written into the contract but not enforced it but getting beyond a joke now. The late payment is made worse because they also have to pay for electricity and water, when they are late not only do I not get money I'm owed I have to put my hand in my own pocket to pay there amenities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 troll post for sure the landlord will be knocking your door at 1 day late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNret Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Pay the 1000 willingly; consider yourself fortunate. Consider a little "make up" gift for the landlord, and don't forget to pay your rent anymore. We are all big boys & big girls now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I have couple of houses and 10 room apartment and have 2 tenants who are always late and always have excuse on hand. Rent has not been paid this month, I have late fee written into the contract but not enforced it but getting beyond a joke now. The late payment is made worse because they also have to pay for electricity and water, when they are late not only do I not get money I'm owed I have to put my hand in my own pocket to pay there amenities. What good is a penalty for paying late stated in a contract if you aren't enforcing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I have couple of houses and 10 room apartment and have 2 tenants who are always late and always have excuse on hand. Rent has not been paid this month, I have late fee written into the contract but not enforced it but getting beyond a joke now. The late payment is made worse because they also have to pay for electricity and water, when they are late not only do I not get money I'm owed I have to put my hand in my own pocket to pay there amenities. What good is a penalty for paying late stated in a contract if you aren't enforcing it? That you can enforce it when someone is really taking the piss. Same like that I don't collect the penalties I can collect when clients are late. I prefer to keep a good relation with clients until it really is going to far. That means you have the penalty option as a last resort, if you did not have it in your contracts you could not even enforce it if you wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I would make prospective tenants provide a copy of their credit reports. There is a National Credit Bureau in Thailand. I haven't looked at one, but it is likely similar to Equifax, Transunion, and Esperian. Same for the Europeans. In US terms, I wouldn't rent to anyone with a score under 700, even though many can still get a government backed mortgage with 640. Save yourself the drama. Yields are way too low here to get shafted. Chevron and Concoco are both paying over 4.25% right now.....7 USD to get out. If you are netting that much here as a landlord; good for you; many aren't. If you factor in the 12.5% tax you are legally suppose to be paying on rents; that will bring it down even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) If you were renting from me and you "forgot" a months rent I'd be forcibly evicting you by now and you would forfeit your deposit. It would be different if you had an emergency and could not pay, but "forgot" ! What? You wouldn't give them a call or an email asking why the rent wasn't paid after about a week? Could be many reason why it hasn't been paid. Remind me never to rent of people like yourself. Edited June 13, 2015 by Straight8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 What is ironic is that there appears to be a large oversupply of newly built condos + those under construction, yet two months deposit is a general rule, and I don't know of a single apartment building that doesn't mark up electric at least 50%, and 100% (8 THB per unit) seems to be standard. So what gives? Do you think that many have no intention of renting out their units? Is the real supply actually smaller than suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfmanjack Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I have rented 4 different houses here in thailand and the landlord always stopped by to pick up the rent. The weird thing that I have found is I offered to pay 6 months in advance so I didn't have to see the landlord every month but they refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 If you were renting from me and you "forgot" a months rent I'd be forcibly evicting you by now and you would forfeit your deposit. It would be different if you had an emergency and could not pay, but "forgot" ! What? You wouldn't give them a call or an email asking why the rent wasn't paid after about a week? Could be many reason why it hasn't been paid. Remind me never to rent of people like yourself. I clearly said that it would be different if there was an emergency or something. The fact that a tenant was prepared to say "I forgot" would be reason enough to want him gone. By the way, I have let many condos and small houses in Thailand to foreigners. My way of doing business has always been to offer a very clean and well equipped property for a very good price, but to pick the tenants very carefully. Most of my tenants stayed years and not months, and all but one got 100% of their deposit back. I always considered myself to be an exemplary landlord, and many of my ex-tenats are now friends. I never ever has a tenant "forget the rent", and many years ago when I myself was a tenant I would never have forgot the rent.. it's as crazy as forgetting to dress or forgetting to breathe in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I have rented 4 different houses here in thailand and the landlord always stopped by to pick up the rent. The weird thing that I have found is I offered to pay 6 months in advance so I didn't have to see the landlord every month but they refused. Well Wolfman, if your avatar is representative of your looks and/or demeanor, as your landlord, I would be dropping by more regularly as well to check on my property. [no suitable emoticon available] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concerned expat Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Landlords owners can do and charge what they want. No regulations in Thailand. Once they got your deposit its going to dwindle to nothing by the end of tenancy. I returned remaining part of the deposit to both tenants and withheld cost of laundry, cleaning and broken appliance. Tenants signed off the receipt with claw of no objections as it was in the contracts anyway. Are you a teenager or going off the planet to forget monthly rent payment? Many others seems to think the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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