Crazy chef 1 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 would love to learn thai but have memory retention problems so I can sit down and practice for hours on end then promptly forget it all, add to that the fact that I cant pick out the tonal difference and it becomes a real pain. Even when I use the few words I have been able to retain(or numbers) people look at me and have no idea what I am trying to say so I just talk very slow english. Being able to talk thai would be brilliant and as I said I would love to be able to learn it but as I cant I do the next best thing, smile a lot and go with the flow. I know exactly what you mean...same same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So if, say, a Thai person spent ten years living in the UK, without bothering to learn a word of English - you'd be ok with that? (And please, try not to make this about the technicalities of visas etc) it wouldn't even bother me if 100 Thai persons having lived for 25 years in the UK without bothering to learn English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So if, say, a Thai person spent ten years living in the UK, without bothering to learn a word of English - you'd be ok with that? (And please, try not to make this about the technicalities of visas etc) it wouldn't even bother me if 100 Thai persons having lived for 25 years in the UK without bothering to learn English Or two generations of Turks living in Berlin and still haven't learned English... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Agree. I prefer Thai women who cannot speak English. These "normal" Thai women--who represent the majority by the way--are much less likely to be "in the business" and don't have "fleece the farang" as their number one goal in life. Yes, there are some English-speaking Thai women who are not on the take. But I'd rather take my chances with the non-English speaking ones. There's also many more attractive ones to choose from. Sorry, but this is a loony argument.... Absolutely. Shacking up with uneducated, unworldly, peasants, because if they are educated and worldly they might fleece him.... Says it all about the man, really. What are you talking about? I'm saying that in Thailand, the "uneducated, unworldly, peasants" are often better English speakers than the educated ones. Do I need to write it down for you? Complete nonsense. unless your associates are uneducated bargirl prostitutes and those 'educated' in stick universities where they are 'educated' to the level of a Western junior highschooler. Says quite a lot about you and your associates in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nithisa78 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) For those who thinks it's best to remain ignorant of the local language - a question. Would it be ok if a foreigner choosing to live in your home country made the same choice? The haters cry about it, but it is legal and alright with me. I'll help them. No matter where I am in the world, I make my feeble attempt to speak the language and quickly a native speaker comes to my rescue and we all have a big laugh. A tirck I learned in Mexico and I can survive in Spanish. I carry the English - Spanisg book. AS soon as they get a glimpse of it, senor please English, ah Por favor. Though I had my ass untightened many years ago. In Nicaragua it is like a comedy act. Everybody laughs, nobody understood anything, just perdon moy bien. Whatever that means. “Arjuna said: What is the destination of the man of faith who does not persevere, who in the beginning takes to the process of self-realization but who later desists due to worldly-mindedness and thus does not attain perfection in mysticism?” (Bhagavad-gita, 6.37) Edited July 1, 2015 by nithisa78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 trust me they are as dumb as they look, you dont need to understand them. its a wonder how anything actually is constructed or works properly. I walked in a brothel; a place I had been a few times before. They had a striking new lady sitting at the end of the bar with the rest of the ladies. I sat close to them and looked at them as they looked at me. The new employee assumed I didn't speak Thai and in deciding who would approach me asked the other ladies, "Farang eat *****?" The other women said yes and he also speaks Thai." Maybe you don't want to know stuff like that. Thailand does produce 40 percent of the hard drives of the world and more autos than the UK if my data is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 What are you talking about? I'm saying that in Thailand, the "uneducated, unworldly, peasants" are often better English speakers than the educated ones. Do I need to write it down for you? Complete nonsense. unless your associates are uneducated bargirl prostitutes and those 'educated' in stick universities where they are 'educated' to the level of a Western junior highschooler. Says quite a lot about you and your associates in Thailand. Hookers speak better English than most Thai English teachers. For the rest, some are nice people some are not. If you don't speak Thai you are going to get taken to the cleaners anyway so what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 From The Ox-Bow Incident (1943) with Henry Fonda. 'Juan' is a very young Anthony Quinn: Jenny Grier: [when Juan finally speaks English after pretending he only knows Spanish] So, he speaks American! Juan Martínez: And ten other languages, my dear - but I don't tell anything I don't want to in any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sorry, but this is a loony argument.... Absolutely. Shacking up with uneducated, unworldly, peasants, because if they are educated and worldly they might fleece him.... Says it all about the man, really. What are you talking about? I'm saying that in Thailand, the "uneducated, unworldly, peasants" are often better English speakers than the educated ones. Do I need to write it down for you? Complete nonsense. unless your associates are uneducated bargirl prostitutes and those 'educated' in stick universities where they are 'educated' to the level of a Western junior highschooler. Says quite a lot about you and your associates in Thailand. You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you know what language Thai universities teach in? It's Thai, almost exclusively, with the exception of international and English programs. Which means that most Thai university graduates are not going to be proficient in English. But it doesn't prevent them from pursuing their chosen profession. Your ignorance is rather profound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So if, say, a Thai person spent ten years living in the UK, without bothering to learn a word of English - you'd be ok with that? (And please, try not to make this about the technicalities of visas etc) it wouldn't even bother me if 100 Thai persons having lived for 25 years in the UK without bothering to learn English Or two generations of Turks living in Berlin and still haven't learned English... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Had I understood two words in Thai a couple weeks ago it would have saved me ฿10,000 and $20. I am actively studying Thai again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 if you learn Thai, immigration think you are in Thailand to work illegaly this world is for clueless people, less you know more you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It is possible to know a language and not speak it when going through immigration. One of my guidelines has two rules: 1- Never let people know how much you know. 2- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitnesspm Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 u should kill yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Slight pro: peace of mind from all the jabbering going on around you. Big con: Total cluelessness all day, every day about the many things going around you, involve you and are about you. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydee Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Within a few short years, we'll have an ap that will be able to do real-time voice translation. That should be good enough for 95% of us. How horrible-sounds like a rubber doll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 no need to learn thai…..just learn key words that you pepper your english with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) if you speak thai they think your work illegaly.... less you know better it is... like during red khmer regime. Edited September 13, 2015 by VIPinthailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Learn Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Sometimes when you don't speak the language, and you hear two persons conversing in a language that you do not understand, you think 'So what are they saying about me?' when they really could care less about you and are saying: What'd you have for dinner last night? Meatloaf. I hate meat loaf . Yeah -- me too. Why would anyone be so paranoid in this beautiful country??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) if you speak thai they think your work illegaly.... less you know better it is... like during red khmer regime. So don't speak Thai at immigration. Not a big problem. Speak Thai at the Thai speaking doctor who is going to operate on you and don't speak Thai at immigration who want to operate on your bank account. This not one that is difficult to figure out. Speaking Thai during the red Khmer regime was not a problem as Thailand took in many Khmer refugees it was a good idea to speak a little Khmer. Edited September 14, 2015 by lostoday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 no need to learn thai…..just learn key words that you pepper your english with ...and then boast on Thaivisa what kind of preferential treatment you get from the stall where you buy your daily noodle soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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