Pib Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Around my house I prefer to have sockets that will accept most any plug versus being limited to a specific plug.
Kenny202 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Posted July 11, 2015 Yeah Crossy they are small round pins and our outlets are the cheap crap you get here. It was all done before I got here. (I'm the laziest electrician in the world been in Electrical wholesaling last 20 years selling electrical accessories) I still don't like the thai / Chinese stuff and the European or American stuff just as much. Give me Oz pattern any day. I think Australian electrical domestic accessories are generally recognized as the best in the world.
IMHO Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Nicer pics, but exactly what I wrote all over the thread. See post #11 Thai outlet socket are not constructed for Euro plugs! I think you're looking at it wrong...... or my pics suck The small 2-pin Euro plug fits perfect in the Clipsal sockets, and has 2 very firm contacts on each uninsulated section of pin. Take a closer look at pic #1 and you'll see that when the white cover plate is on (I sat it beside the socket on the right), the whole assembly is much thicker. Those small 2-pin Euro plug don't make any contact until the uninsulated portion of the pins is already well into the socket - and once you push it all the way in (that's what my photos are meant to demonstrate) it has very good contact. Edited July 11, 2015 by IMHO
IMHO Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Yeah Crossy they are small round pins and our outlets are the cheap crap you get here. It was all done before I got here. (I'm the laziest electrician in the world been in Electrical wholesaling last 20 years selling electrical accessories) I still don't like the thai / Chinese stuff and the European or American stuff just as much. Give me Oz pattern any day. I think Australian electrical domestic accessories are generally recognized as the best in the world. China, Australia and New Zealand all use the same "inverted Y" shaped plugs & sockets Edited July 11, 2015 by IMHO
Crossy Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 For the proponents of the 'universal' outlets, read this http://www.universalsocket.org.uk/ and make an informed decision to use or not (dashed useful they are too).
lopburi3 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 As said the issue is really the outlets rather than the plugs - those old 69 baht extensions will not make good contact with thin round plugs and are a fire hazard (had fire from such - happened while room attended so just melted plastic and smoke but there was open flame so a real danger. After that never used such plugs (or cheap outlets) - either replaced with flat pin or used adapters that fit good. These days you can actually buy good extensions that will properly fit (but price does not seem to be the only factor involved). For me is it safer to just replace if being attached to an extension cord - if going into a wall National/Panasonic outlet there is normally good contact.
Brit_Doggie Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Flat ones expand from heat causing power loss so another issue to deal with.
Kenny202 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Posted July 11, 2015 I've had expensive outlets smoke up and burn like that. With low load things too
lopburi3 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Flat ones expand from heat causing power loss so another issue to deal with. Have read this 3 times but guess you mean loss of connection rather than voltage/amperage? Flat pins are used by a good deal of the world, in various forms, without issues and in my experience connection is almost always better than thin round type in a multi outlet.
Kenny202 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Posted July 11, 2015 Flat ones expand from heat causing power loss so another issue to deal with. Have read this 3 times but guess you mean loss of connection rather than voltage/amperage? Flat pins are used by a good deal of the world, in various forms, without issues and in my experience connection is almost always better than thin round type in a multi outlet. Totally agree. I have both on my appliances here and only have issues with the round ones. I can't imagine for what reason a manufacturer would use them.
Pib Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Totally agree. I have both on my appliances here and only have issues with the round ones. I can't imagine for what reason a manufacturer would use them. Because if you are making your appliance for a region of the world/countries that predominately have round pin sockets you make your devices to have round pin plugs.
Kenny202 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Posted July 11, 2015 Predominantly round pin? All outlets I see take round and flat
lopburi3 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 What is being referred to is that the majority of 220v items sold locally are being designed for sale in Europe where round plug are used - what is sold locally is just a fraction of the factory output total so get the plug they already have rather than the dedicated 3 pin Thai plug (there is one).
Pib Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Predominantly round pin? All outlets I see take round and flat Yes, if in Thailand...but if making your product for sale also in a countries where the sockets are predominately round then you make your product with a round pin plug. And since a small diameter round pin plug could fit in socket made for large diameter plugs (but not fit vice versa) although fitting loosely, then making the device with a small diameter pin plug allows wider compatibility.
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