Bush says he takes Trump's immigration remarks personally

[Lite Beer]

Bush says he takes Trump's immigration remarks personally

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush says he is personally offended by rival Donald Trump's recent remarks about Mexico and immigrants and calls the remarks far outside the mainstream of Republican thought.

"I don't think he represents the Republican Party, and his views are way out of the mainstream of what Republicans think," Bush told reporters after marching in Fourth of July parades in Amherst and Merrimack, New Hampshire.

"No one suggests that we shouldn't control our borders - everybody has a belief that we should control our borders," he said. "But to make these extraordinarily ugly kind of comments is not reflective of the Republican Party. Trump is wrong on this."

Bush's wife was born in Mexico, and when he was asked if he took Trump's remarks personally, he responded: "Yeah, of course. Absolutely. And a lot of other people as well."

When Trump announced his presidential bid last month, he criticized Mexico and immigrants who come to the U.S. illegally. "They're bringing drugs," he said. "They're bringing crime. They're rapists."

In spite of earlier criticism from Bush and other Republicans and companies moving to cut business ties to Trump, the real estate mogul has defended his remarks.

-- (c) Associated Press 2015-07-05

[sirineou]

a day late and a dollar short

[Loptr]

Then Jeb should take his sorry ass back to Mexico, where he wished he was from...

Trump is a loose cannon, but he does have a point when it comes to illegal immigration in the US...

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/sorry-donald-trump-has-a-point-119662.html#.VZh6sBOqqko

[NeverSure]

LOL. "Me Too" Bush.

[ezzra]

To win the presidency, they will say anything and everything, becoming the defenders of this

and that minorities, and since there are many American Mexicans in the state with a voting

powers so the Bush pandering goes in that direction, they say that all is fair in love, war and

presidential elections...

[Manbing]

Coz Jeb's a big ol' wetback hisself

[Just1Voice]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

[Usernames]

True. Because Jeb has self identified as an "hispanic" on his voter registration form. Not in doubt is his wife's attempt to smuggle clothes and jewelry past US Customs in Atlanta. Laws, like borders, are irrelevant, when it comes to what the Bushes want.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/06/397819562/report-jeb-bush-self-identified-as-hispanic-on-voter-application-in-09

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/bushs-wife-is-caught-smuggling-clothes-1102279.html

[zaphod reborn]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

Exactly, because what Trump said is the mainstream of Republican sentiment. Trump just removed the window dressing from it.

[lifeincnx]

I wish Trump would keep it up. With one asinine statement he has single-handedly done more to bring Latino voters to the 2016 election booth than any party push could ever have.

[Seastallion]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

[CWMcMurray]

Actually this helps Bush...

But another Bush / Clinton election? Really?

Urgggg...

[spidermike007]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

As usual with this half man creton, it was not so much what he said, as much as the vitriolic way he said it. The man is so hateful and so hostile and so maladjusted, it would be scary to have someone like that in the White House, with the ability to declare war. He needs alot of therapy. He despises non white people, which is the majority in the US. He is truly a goon, a hater, and a freak. Not the good kind of freak either.

[samran]

a day late and a dollar short

he needed a good 48 hours to have this focus group tested and then have a phone poll back him up.

anyway, good to see the usual suspects are out.

Will be funny watching all the GOP cantidates give the pledge that they will out Roland Regan the old gipper himself. The irony of it all being, that as far as the nut jobs are concerned, Regan would be classed as a lefty socialist by todays GOP 'standards'.

[samran]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

Yep, and plenty of them also believe the earth was created 6000 years ago.

[Ulysses G.]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

What Trump said was basically true, but I don't like the way he said it. There is no getting around the fact that some Mexicans are bringing drugs and crime to the US and that some are rapists, but saying that "some are good people", makes it sound like they are the minority and I'm pretty sure that is not correct.

"[Mexico] are sending people that have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems to us. They are bringing drugs, and bringing crime, and their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

-Donald Trump

Edited July 5, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[NeverSure]

I'm just against mob rule and unchecked unruly immigration, not Hispanic immigration. When the borders are unchecked it does allow a lot of criminals to just rock on in and I want them vetted.

The flip side after it's controlled is that the Mexicans don't have a hard time blending with the culture. They have a very strong work ethic, strong family values and they are largely Catholic and peaceful. Spanish and English are easier to swap out than many other languages including tonal languages or ME languages with different alphabets and numbers. I can speak and read a little Spanish just from osmosis.

Trump should have been more careful what he said, but at the root of it I'm appalled by the unchecked illegal immigration.

[chuckd]

Illegal immigration is a huge problem in the US. Just because some poliltician voiced his concerns about it is no reason for people to diminish the problem by hiding it under the cover of political correctness.

This is a classic case of killing the messenger.

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121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration

A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent escorts a handcuffed illegal immigrant convicted of a felony that was taken into custody during an early morning operation in Dallas on March 6. (Associated Press) more >

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, June 15, 2015

More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

In one case, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement acknowledged that its agents didn’t find out about an illegal immigrant’s death threats and court injunctions against him — which should have put him back in detention — until after the man was accused of murder.

That case, involving Apolinar Altamirano, is the latest instance of someone who went through the Obama administration’s deportation system and was released, only to go on to be charged with major crime

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/121-murders-attributed-illegal-immigrants-released/?page=all

[impulse]

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, June 15, 2015

More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

In one case, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement acknowledged that its agents didn’t find out about an illegal immigrant’s death threats and court injunctions against him — which should have put him back in detention — until after the man was accused of murder.

That case, involving Apolinar Altamirano, is the latest instance of someone who went through the Obama administration’s deportation system and was released, only to go on to be charged with major crime

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/121-murders-attributed-illegal-immigrants-released/?page=all

While I agree it's a huge problem, it's been going on for decades, and characterizing it as a problem with "Obama's administration" is a little disingenuous.

[samran]

I'm just against mob rule and unchecked unruly immigration, not Hispanic immigration. When the borders are unchecked it does allow a lot of criminals to just rock on in and I want them vetted.

The flip side after it's controlled is that the Mexicans don't have a hard time blending with the culture. They have a very strong work ethic, strong family values and they are largely Catholic and peaceful. Spanish and English are easier to swap out than many other languages including tonal languages or ME languages with different alphabets and numbers. I can speak and read a little Spanish just from osmosis.

Trump should have been more careful what he said, but at the root of it I'm appalled by the unchecked illegal immigration.

All well and good...but what is the solution? You build a bigger wall. They will just build bigger ladders and longer tunnels.

[stevenl]

Illegal immigration is a huge problem in the US. Just because some poliltician voiced his concerns about it is no reason for people to diminish the problem by hiding it under the cover of political correctness.

This is a classic case of killing the messenger. <snip>

There is a difference between voicing ones concern about illegal immigration and tarnashing a big part of the population as criminals.

[Seastallion]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

What Trump said was basically true, but I don't like the way he said it. There is no getting around the fact that some Mexicans are bringing drugs and crime to the US and that some are rapists, but saying that "some are good people", makes it sound like they are the minority and I'm pretty sure that is not correct.

"[Mexico] are sending people that have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems to us. They are bringing drugs, and bringing crime, and their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

-Donald Trump

Ahhhh...You see, the OP and another thread on this forum both make a slightly different quote; " "They're bringing drugs," he said. "They're bringing crime. They're rapists.""

If it was as you say...OK.

But if it was as the OP reports...then he did make a sweeping and nasty generalisation.

[chuckd]

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, June 15, 2015

More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

In one case, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement acknowledged that its agents didn’t find out about an illegal immigrant’s death threats and court injunctions against him — which should have put him back in detention — until after the man was accused of murder.

That case, involving Apolinar Altamirano, is the latest instance of someone who went through the Obama administration’s deportation system and was released, only to go on to be charged with major crime

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/121-murders-attributed-illegal-immigrants-released/?page=all

While I agree it's a huge problem, it's been going on for decades, and characterizing it as a problem with "Obama's administration" is a little disingenuous.

Take it up with the Washington Post.

My bet is they feel safe that what they have stated is true.

[arjunadawn]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

No, as admitted, he did not specify. Nevertheless, by definition, illegals are criminals but by definition they are not all racists.

[impulse]

Take it up with the Washington Post.

My bet is they feel safe that what they have stated is true.

You're the one that posted it here... You used your discretion and your disdain for the man to select that snippet. Could have selected from 1000 others, but you selected that one. Man up to it.

I have no doubt that it's true. And it was true under Bush Jr, and true under Mr Clinton, and true under Bush Sr, and true under Reagan. And it will be true under Mrs. Clinton. And in the next election cycle, we'll see more sponsored articles like that.

Oh, they'll be true- as far as they go, but they'll leave out the inconvenient truths.

[samran]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

No, as admitted, he did not specify. Nevertheless, by definition, illegals are criminals but by definition they are not all racists.

Fark me.

Big Bend National Park in 2000.

Spent two days camping there. Swam along the Rio Grande both days. Must have crossed back into the US illegally without paperwork a couple of dozen times.

Helped out at a friends yard sale in 1996. Collected money and sold stuff. Seattle Washington.

I'm a criminal too then.

[Mudcrab]

Then Jeb should take his sorry ass back to Mexico, where he wished he was from...

Trump is a loose cannon, but he does have a point when it comes to illegal immigration in the US...

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/sorry-donald-trump-has-a-point-119662.html#.VZh6sBOqqko

Who are the Natives referred to in the post??

[empireboy]

American politics..... Ignorance gone to seed!

[elgordo38]

Quote WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush says he is personally offended by rival Donald Trump's recent remarks about Mexico and immigrants and calls the remarks far outside the mainstream of Republican thought.

Well Americans have voted for "mainstream candidates" over the decades and look at where that has gotten them. All I have seen for my 60 years of adulthood has been mainstream BS in spades. Its about time someone offended somebody and shook the race up and tells it like it is and not how it should be. They are all a bunch of tired old hacks on both sides of the aisle. People are tired of switching back and forth from the Dems to the Republics and getting nothing in return but more of the same.

[arjunadawn]

Everyone is making a major production out of what Trump said, but in reality, there are a hell of a lot of people who agree with his comments.

That illegal immigrants are rapists? All of them, or just some? Trump didn't specify, so it was a generalisation, and a nasty sweeping one at that.

No, as admitted, he did not specify. Nevertheless, by definition, illegals are criminals but by definition they are not all racists.

Fark me.

Big Bend National Park in 2000.

Spent two days camping there. Swam along the Rio Grande both days. Must have crossed back into the US illegally without paperwork a couple of dozen times.

Helped out at a friends yard sale in 1996. Collected money and sold stuff. Seattle Washington.

I'm a criminal too then.

It is hardly a matter of opinion, yet you say you broke the law then ask if this makes you a criminal? If you do not know the answer or otherwise suspect an idiot would read your post and offer "no, you are not a criminal" then you are silly. This is an example of the exercising law through liberal echo chambers. Numerous people in America now openly assert that breaking the law is not actually breaking the law and illegals are actually immigrants. No. They are not. Immigrants are those countless other people working their way through the legal visa system channels.

Seems we have similar experiences, you breaking the law, and me not. I spent multiple years in the SW working for Joint Task Force VI and the El Paso Intelligence Center, EPIC. Coming across the border as mules, alone, with criminal intent, or to visit neighbors is a crime. Period!

In the 1990s, we would sit on various collection sights looking out over vast stretches of land toward Mexico. Working with Joint task force we fed intel to multiple agencies, including Border Tactical, who we also trained. There was nothing to see forever and a day... then sunset. The agents took shocking joy watching our faces in the red lights as we looked out upon an increasingly active plain. These lights and people did not come from the far borders. They made there way to rat holes near the border at night, waited out the day, and launched... an invasion at night. Not one, ten, but numerous hundreds as far as the eye could see as coyotes and mules and cars and trucks came right up to the border and slowly the lights disappeared as they entered the us. Switch to thermal and it is the same story with different imagery. Every night, potentially thousands. We have one area then 700 sq miles for one Border Agent. Not too much has changed. Every one of these is a criminal. Don't like the label, change the law. It would be among the only countries on earth not to have illegal alien laws on the books. No other country has ever been so foolish.

While I object to illegals I do not object to immigration, even considerable immigration- from the south. It is my paradoxical opinion that Latino immigrants will be the only thing that will save America, but not like this, not in these numbers, not the bottom of the barrel. Not at the expense of all other honest people. When a well is poisoned the water is bad, whether you taste it or not. As a crux, I refuse to accept that breaking the law does not make one a criminal. Trump is correct. The fact that America has a new zero tolerance policy for freedom of speech or freedom of association, both first amendment, should alarm those who celebrate their liberal gains. These restrictions will one day injure the left equally.

Edited July 5, 2015 by arjunadawn