webfact Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Thailand's Rising Crackdown on Dissent Sparks Coup CriticismThe junta is tightening its grip on power.By Shawn W. CrispinBANGKOK: -- The detention of 14 student activists in Thailand underscores the ruling junta’s rising crackdown on dissent and free expression, signaling a deeper descent into strongman-led authoritarian rule. While army commander cum Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has strongly consolidated his rule after a year in power, his government is nonetheless tightening its grip amid plans to delay elections deep into 2016.The activists, 11 of them university students, were arrested on June 26 while staging a small, peaceful pro-democracy demonstration in Bangkok. They each face up to seven years in prison on charges of sedition for “inciting unrest” and violating the junta’s strict ban on political gatherings of more than five people, according to reports. Their detention has sparked public protests, including the spontaneous posting of anti-coup notes near a Bangkok skytrain station, and strong newspaper editorials criticizing Prayuth’s increasingly iron-fisted rule.Deputy Prime Minister and legal expert Wissanu Krea-ngam was quoted saying the activists should stand trial in a military rather than civil court because they violated a National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) order. The activists will go before a military court on Tuesday after 12 days in pre-trial detention. The activists’ defense lawyers have likened their case to the arrests and military court trial of 18 student activists in October 1976, a flashpoint moment in the country’s long struggle for democracy.Full story: http://thediplomat.com/2015/07/thailands-rising-crackdown-on-dissent-sparks-coup-criticism/-- The Diplomat 2015-07-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The next flashpoint will have nothing to do with the reds, it will be students, fighting for a vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Turning uglier by the minute, me says. These people really do forget their own history, even recent events as the massacre in 1976 is completely forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Turning uglier by the minute, me says. These people really do forget their own history, even recent events as the massacre in 1976 is completely forgotten. The Thammasat Massacre is not forgotten. It is against the "law" to mention it. Very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. All soldiers who break the law and commit treason and sedation by staging a coup should be expelled from the military and imprisoned for life, with all their ill gotten assets confiscated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprq Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Tell us you're joking, please. It's not very good satire, of course, so the suspicion is that you're actually serious with this totalitarian rant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I love it when you have the likes of Timmy, who clearly isn't a Thai, bashing Thais with more rights than he has, who have more of a voice than he has, and more of a grasp on reality than he has!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 individuals who protests at colleges around the world are made up of a multitude of backgrounds and occupations. many are students yes, but then you have the aggretators who are professionals hires to spread discontent against those in charge. then you have the wannabe stydents who are not for many reasons, money lack of schooling intelligence, lazy dope burn out, etc then the typical reactioon when a crowd starts to gather, everyone in sight runs to see what is happening, hoping for a handout of some sort and finnaly t6hose looking for some easy picking in the way of other belongings, attend classes with personal appearance in each assigned class and cpme back after graduation or head for the nearest site looking for labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous Education, knowledge and wisdom have an interesting relationship. And yes, we don't all share the same points of view. The world would be very bland if we did, However, it is reasonable to assume that some expressed outrageous extreme view is not the product of a rational, balance, educated mind. If it is, then most likely it's being expressed for a mischievous reason. Some of most oppressive dictators and their supporters over the years have been very well educated and undoubtedly intelligent. Sadly not rational and maybe psychotic, psychopathic or sociopaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) individuals who protests at colleges around the world are made up of a multitude of backgrounds and occupations. many are students yes, but then you have the aggretators who are professionals hires to spread discontent against those in charge. then you have the wannabe stydents who are not for many reasons, money lack of schooling intelligence, lazy dope burn out, etc then the typical reactioon when a crowd starts to gather, everyone in sight runs to see what is happening, hoping for a handout of some sort and finnaly t6hose looking for some easy picking in the way of other belongings, attend classes with personal appearance in each assigned class and cpme back after graduation or head for the nearest site looking for labor. So what are you accusing these particular students and those who sympathise with them of? Edited July 7, 2015 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous Education, knowledge and wisdom have an interesting relationship. And yes, we don't all share the same points of view. The world would be very bland if we did, However, it is reasonable to assume that some expressed outrageous extreme view is not the product of a rational, balance, educated mind. If it is, then most likely it's being expressed for a mischievous reason. Some of most oppressive dictators and their supporters over the years have been very well educated and undoubtedly intelligent. Sadly not rational and maybe psychotic, psychopathic or sociopaths. you forgot to mention one small thing - outrageous extreme view FOR YOU, brainwashed by decades of left liberal propaganda, which indoctrinates people that A PRIORI protestors are always right and authorities are always wrong. that's why people like you defend culprits but not policemen who prosecute them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The man who has a Che Guevara Avatar, has the brass balls to make comments about students protesting against a Regime that stifles peoples opinions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous Your English isn't very good, which makes posters assume you have little education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The man who has a Che Guevara Avatar, has the brass balls to make comments about students protesting against a Regime that stifles peoples opinions!! ...and he most likely is enjoying a bunch of rights and freedoms, which other people fought hard for and even broke "the law"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) The man who has a Che Guevara Avatar, has the brass balls to make comments about students protesting against a Regime that stifles peoples opinions!! this picture called "Che Guevara assassino" = Che Guevara murderer. like any other communist, socialist, leftist etc Your English isn't very good, which makes posters assume you have little education. and a simpler idea - that I am not a native English speaker - didn't come to your mind? or you think everybody in the world should speak English like a native? how arrogant... Edited July 7, 2015 by TimmyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. All soldiers who break the law and commit treason and sedation by staging a coup should be expelled from the military and imprisoned for life, with all their ill gotten assets confiscated. I am sympathetic to the suggestion that those guilty of committing "sedation" should be severely punished, whether with a thumbscrew or a comfy cushion is for further consideration. What is immediately apparent is that the military government has grotesquely overreacted though I have just been told that common sense is prevailing.Yet there is a sense in which the military's instincts were sound in cracking down heavy handedly on a few protesting students.Courage is infectious and every revolution has small beginnings.While there is no prospect of a revolution in Thailand yet what we felt in this recent incident was the government's almost indiscernible stench of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The next flashpoint will have nothing to do with the reds, it will be students, fighting for a vote Read the other news....a foreign group steers up problems......Some students will still remember how the reds shot at them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 A number of off-topic, flaming, and abusive posts have been removed from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous It might be your writing -- "what kind of education do I have" Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 How much longer does this topic go on before someone steps over the edge? The leadership is becoming more petulant of criticism everyday. Sorry guys, the genie is out of the bottle and it will be much harder to put back in than it was in the good old days. Farewell free speech - such as it was - in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Education, knowledge and wisdom have an interesting relationship. And yes, we don't all share the same points of view. The world would be very bland if we did, However, it is reasonable to assume that some expressed outrageous extreme view is not the product of a rational, balance, educated mind. If it is, then most likely it's being expressed for a mischievous reason. Some of most oppressive dictators and their supporters over the years have been very well educated and undoubtedly intelligent. Sadly not rational and maybe psychotic, psychopathic or sociopaths. you forgot to mention one small thing - outrageous extreme view FOR YOU, brainwashed by decades of left liberal propaganda, which indoctrinates people that A PRIORI protestors are always right and authorities are always wrong. that's why people like you defend culprits but not policemen who prosecute them. You either genuinely don't know right from wrong and can't tell the difference between law and order and a fascist police state, which usually has neither law nor order; or are just out for a bit of baiting for fun, sad if that's true. No I don't believe violent anti-social intimidation protests are right. People should have the right to protest peacefully - not lob grenades, throw blood and excrement or machine gun houses. The police must maintain peace and do so within the law using reasonable force prescribed by law. Other wise you have communist/fascist states where any who dare protest or speak out against dictatorial governments are not tolerated and often treated violently or disappeared. Perhaps that's the norm where you come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The man who has a Che Guevara Avatar, has the brass balls to make comments about students protesting against a Regime that stifles peoples opinions!! this picture called "Che Guevara assassino" = Che Guevara murderer. like any other communist, socialist, leftist etc Your English isn't very good, which makes posters assume you have little education. and a simpler idea - that I am not a native English speaker - didn't come to your mind? or you think everybody in the world should speak English like a native? how arrogant... Speaking languages does not equate to intelligence, knowledge and wisdom per se. The ability to speak a particular language is not the measure of IQ. However, English is the premier language for education, science, business, politics etc in the world. The level of competence in English is an indicator, and no more than an indicator, in a person's level of education. Nothing arrogant but more a comment on your personal drive and acceptance for poor standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. Interesting. Perhaps, if you had the benefit of a higher education you would understand the implications of your comment. how do you know what kind of education do I have? Or you believe that anybody with higher education should share your point of view? ridiculous If we are discussing Timmy T's education, all I will say since I cannot know what that was, is that his syntax is not that of a native English speaker. and if Timmy T. were to come back and say that I'm wrong, that he is a native English speaker, then I would state that dear Timmy's 'education' was a dubious undertaking. No matter what, Timmy T. gets this OP's and thread's "Fascism Is Our Friend" Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Speaking languages does not equate to intelligence, knowledge and wisdom per se. The ability to speak a particular language is not the measure of IQ. However, English is the premier language for education, science, business, politics etc in the world. The level of competence in English is an indicator, and no more than an indicator, in a person's level of education. Nothing arrogant but more a comment on your personal drive and acceptance for poor standards. oh really? so why English is the third most widely spoken language in the World, after Chinese and Spanish? disgusting Anglo-saxon superiority complex as it is. who is the fascist among us, huh? Edited July 7, 2015 by TimmyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 all students who are breaking the law should be expelled from the university and banned from getting higher education for life. Students should study but not take part in political protesting. And there are a lot of youth in Thailand who want to be on there places in uni - to study. But first let us know your definition of "law". Does it include arbitrary regulations issued by a military junta who grabbed power at gun point? And if yes, if a burglar points a gun at you and you protest, can he shoot you and call it a legal execution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Speaking languages does not equate to intelligence, knowledge and wisdom per se. The ability to speak a particular language is not the measure of IQ. However, English is the premier language for education, science, business, politics etc in the world. The level of competence in English is an indicator, and no more than an indicator, in a person's level of education. Nothing arrogant but more a comment on your personal drive and acceptance for poor standards. oh really? so why English is the third most widely spoken language in the World, after Chinese and Spanish? disgusting Anglo-saxon superiority complex as it is. who is the fascist among us, huh? I am not a fascist nor an imperialist, but you are wrong. English is the most widely spoken language in the world. http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/countries_by_languages.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Speaking languages does not equate to intelligence, knowledge and wisdom per se. The ability to speak a particular language is not the measure of IQ. However, English is the premier language for education, science, business, politics etc in the world. The level of competence in English is an indicator, and no more than an indicator, in a person's level of education. Nothing arrogant but more a comment on your personal drive and acceptance for poor standards. oh really? so why English is the third most widely spoken language in the World, after Chinese and Spanish? disgusting Anglo-saxon superiority complex as it is. who is the fascist among us, huh? This, in a word, is incoherent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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