webfact Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 POLITICSPM irked at Suthep jibeWASAMON AUDJARINT,ANAPAT DEECHUAYTHE NATIONBANGKOK: -- PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law.I urge you not to cause an issue," he said. Prayut also responded to former coup leader General Sonthi Boonyaratglin's call for the government's extending its stay in office, saying one must study the constitution.The government acts according to the charter, he said, challenging those proposing to find ways for the government to stay within the constitution.The premier also rejected a recommendation by some National Reform Council (NRC) members to veto the draft charter as a way to prolong the government's term.Some NRC members, including Wanchai Sornsiri, have proposed rejecting the new charter as it would make way for an election before reforms are completed. That would mean the coup was staged in vain.Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Yuthavong said it was impossible to finish reform for every sector before an election. The government needs to stick to the road map. Completing every reform before election could be viewed as buying time, as some reform work needed a long period of time to accomplish.The government would have more than a year to complete some reforms before an election was held as scheduled and some tangible results would be seen between now and then, he said.Most people think any movements should be prioritised in line with common interests and not cause trouble for the country, Suan Dusit Poll said yesterday.The opinion poll on "What do you think about the news briefing by Suthep Thaugsuban on the official opening of the People's Democratic Reform Foundation?" was conducted from July 30-August 1 with 1,106 responding.More than 77 per cent thought that whatever a movement was, it should consider national and public interests, while 73 per cent did not wish Suthep's movement to turn into a political game and consequently cause a stir.Nearly 65 per cent thought the movement had become a topic of critics, especially among the opposing red shirts, and some 62 per cent thought the government should be able to put things in order.Almost 79 per cent agreed the movement was likely linked to politics because it involved an agenda for "reform before election" and the foundation's committee members were all former political actors.About 16 per cent were uncertain as it could possibly test the waters to see initial feedback, and some 3 per cent said the foundation had the right to work for society.More than 51 per cent saw the movement heating up Thai politics as it was heavily criticised by red shirts and viewed as a challenge to the government and the National Council for Peace and Order. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/PM-irked-at-Suthep-jibe-30265764.html -- The Nation 2015-08-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckape Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I am hopeful they they can fix this thing and move forward. Change is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The less action he takes against Suthep, the longer the speculation and insinuation goes, the general seems to have forgotten what Suthep already told the media, that they have been colluding for years to overthrow the Shins. I urge you not to cause an issue," he said. No General, Suthep and yourself, by failing to clampdown on your pittbull are an Issue. You are NOT treating everyone equally, otherwise Suthep et al would have been locked up and their press conference stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Whoa big boy, relax. Don't let the questions get to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The less action he takes against Suthep, the longer the speculation and insinuation goes, the general seems to have forgotten what Suthep already told the media, that they have been colluding for years to overthrow the Shins. I urge you not to cause an issue," he said. No General, Suthep and yourself, by failing to clampdown on your pittbull are an Issue. You are NOT treating everyone equally, otherwise Suthep et al would have been locked up and their press conference stopped. Well put. Let him be damn well irked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. Edited August 3, 2015 by Charlie Croker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 why does Kasit has a go at the Juntaa? errr because their economic performance has been Kack!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? They're not tight, that's the whole point, and who's suggesting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am hopeful they they can fix this thing and move forward. Change is good. I don,t think anything needs fixing, they are really both on the same side and should work together to produce an honest thaksin-free government. Whatever people may think of Suthep, he is the one who put his life on the line and got the old government out, and it is obvious the redshirt clown jatuporn (note lower case) is trying to to produce a rift between Messrs Prayut and Suthep. Nothing here to get worked up about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The PM lashes out at those who dare speak the truth, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The game of Thai politics can be likened to a 3 year old battling to understand quantum physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. I don't think the poster was suggesting that they are "tight"... And I don't think that they are tight at all. They are on the same, basic, anti-democratic side of the political divide. But Thai generals don't trust Thai politicians, not even those on the same side. Never have, never will... Of course when you say fair's fair, one has to ask why we have attitude adjustment camps in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am hopeful they they can fix this thing and move forward. Change is good.I don,t think anything needs fixing, they are really both on the same side and should work together to produce an honest thaksin-free government. Whatever people may think of Suthep, he is the one who put his life on the line and got the old government out, and it is obvious the redshirt clown jatuporn (note lower case) is trying to to produce a rift between Messrs Prayut and Suthep. Nothing here to get worked up about 555555! Nothing like a good cup of morning dribble to clear the cobwebs. Suthep portrayed as the unselfish hero! Looks like the trolls are out in force this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 They keep referring to the "constitution". Is this the same constitution that they don't have anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can't stop the insinuation and speculation when we have the two principals openly declaring they are on Skype and one talk about carrying the load when the other was tired during the Bangkok chaos. And this double standard in allowing the foundation to meet and violated the 5 person gathering restriction while the other have birthday celebration curtailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 they are really both on the same side Not really. In the local vernacular, Prayut is merely the jockey, who was hired by the trainer (with the owner's and investors' blessings). Jockeys are replaced once their usefulness and abilities have been stretched. And there will be no compunction on the part of the trainer when replacing the jockey. Suthep represents the investors, and Prayut probably senses it's nearing time for him to dismount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am hopeful they they can fix this thing and move forward. Change is good.I don,t think anything needs fixing, they are really both on the same side and should work together to produce an honest thaksin-free government. Whatever people may think of Suthep, he is the one who put his life on the line and got the old government out, and it is obvious the redshirt clown jatuporn (note lower case) is trying to to produce a rift between Messrs Prayut and Suthep. Nothing here to get worked up about Please do a little research on Suthep, he is not a white knight. He only works for his own venal self interest. He is not on anyone's side but his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. I don't think the poster was suggesting that they are "tight"... And I don't think that they are tight at all. They are on the same, basic, anti-democratic side of the political divide. But Thai generals don't trust Thai politicians, not even those on the same side. Never have, never will... Of course when you say fair's fair, one has to ask why we have attitude adjustment camps in the first place... Bingo we have a winner!!! Despite this being about something entirely different- the D-word gets dragged into it. If this was a story about Uncle Too kissing a baby, your response would doubtless be- 'I bet its an anti-democratic baby' Edited August 3, 2015 by Charlie Croker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. I don't think the poster was suggesting that they are "tight"... And I don't think that they are tight at all. They are on the same, basic, anti-democratic side of the political divide. But Thai generals don't trust Thai politicians, not even those on the same side. Never have, never will... Of course when you say fair's fair, one has to ask why we have attitude adjustment camps in the first place... Yes I believe in regard to the camp/s (not sure if its a plural thing), you might think the name says it all. They could have used other names I suppose... 'Torture Gulag' was already taken though, by those nice folks from the USA who bought you such prisons as Gitmo and Abu Grain as well numerous international black sites. Because only the USA know the true value of protecting human rights abuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Oh God please don't upset the dear PM, he will only invent another "dry" day in to increase everyone's happiness ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 They keep referring to the "constitution". Is this the same constitution that they don't have anymore? No. The "current" constitution is the Junta hand-crafted Interim or Provisional Charter. According to its articles, it can be amended by the Junta-appointed NLA upon request by the NCPO. However, Prayut as Chief of the NCPO has invoked Article 44 of the Charter that allows him to legally amend the Charter by fiat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. I don't think the poster was suggesting that they are "tight"... And I don't think that they are tight at all. They are on the same, basic, anti-democratic side of the political divide. But Thai generals don't trust Thai politicians, not even those on the same side. Never have, never will... Of course when you say fair's fair, one has to ask why we have attitude adjustment camps in the first place... Does anyone in the upper echelons really trust anyone else? Given how quickly loyalties can and do change I doubt it. And that "culture" permeates downwards through the ranks. The trick seems to be not to get caught on the wrong side when the music stops so to speak. Anti-democratic side of the political divide - must be the most crowded packed out side. All those who have the name "democrat, democracy" or shout about representing democracy without actually adhering to it must be shoving for places. Can't think of many who'd be on the democratic side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Prayut certainly is treating everyone equally under the same law. I wonder if Suthep would be given a second chance like PEACE TV was when they spewed a toxic, threatening narrative over the air waves. In fact giving PEACE TV a second chance was being way to lenient towards the UDD and will no doubt come back to bite Prayut in his behind. One side threatened the govt, intimidated opposition members, denounced the Junta disregards the law and is given a second chance. The other side offer constructive criticism, ideas towards reform and not a hint of intimidation. No wonder Suthep has not been banned yet. Of course if he starts down the track by trying to divide the nation he too will be banned (and maybe given a second chance?) When Prayut gives UDD a second chance. Silence. When Suthep is still on his first chance. Uproar. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't I bet if Suthep is banned and given a second cnhance I bet the comments would be "See, Prayut does favour Suthep"!! PTP logic right there folks. Edited August 3, 2015 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday lashed out at those insinuating something between him and Suthep Thaugsuban's reform before election movement, saying he had to treat everyone the same under the same law." Not correct Uncle Too. You should, but you don't. "I urge you not to cause an issue," Yes. Don't ask too many questions about this and certain financial matters or it's off to the attitude adjustment camp. Move along - nothing to see here.... Its natural that the red shirt supporters feel that something untoward is going on. But Why would Suthep's newly appointed ankle biter Kasit come out swinging against the government on Friday, complaining about their economic performance, if Suthep and Uncle too were as tight as is being suggested? Although MZurf makes a good point, Suthep needs a trip to the attitude adjustment camp, if only to balance the books. Fairs fair now. I don't think the poster was suggesting that they are "tight"... And I don't think that they are tight at all. They are on the same, basic, anti-democratic side of the political divide. But Thai generals don't trust Thai politicians, not even those on the same side. Never have, never will... Of course when you say fair's fair, one has to ask why we have attitude adjustment camps in the first place... Bingo we have a winner!!! Despite this being about something entirely different- the D-word gets dragged into it. If this was a story about Uncle Too kissing a baby, your response would doubtless be- 'I bet its an anti-democratic baby' no, it would be an anti-democratic 'Uncle Too', but what's your point in the first place? that prayuth and suthep are "tight" that they are not both anti-democrats that Thai generals actually like Thai politicians that you meant something about attitude adjustment, or you just didn't have a point and just wanted to post your special graphic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The government allowed a clearly political movement a platform and now is quiet rightly been seen as a double standard by many. If the general is serious ban his organization. No more meetings. No more press conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) In response to tbthailand, 2 posts earlier My point is that I am tired of the constant references to anti-democratic this and that. Its NOTHING to do with this story The crying baby is symbolic of the constant whinging of those people like you who cannot post in TVF without using the phrase 'anti-democratic'. If you read this, then go back and read the original. You will have been told the same thing twice. Maybe then you will understand. Edited August 3, 2015 by Charlie Croker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 According to its articles, it can be amended by the Junta-appointed NLA upon request by the NCPO. OMG, the horror. Allowing a "legislative body" to amend a constitution should be a call for the NACC to step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am hopeful they they can fix this thing and move forward. Change is good. I don,t think anything needs fixing, they are really both on the same side and should work together to produce an honest thaksin-free government. Whatever people may think of Suthep, he is the one who put his life on the line and got the old government out, and it is obvious the redshirt clown jatuporn (note lower case) is trying to to produce a rift between Messrs Prayut and Suthep. Nothing here to get worked up about With your above cringeworthy statement, i'm surprised you have'nt used the term "lower caste", as well as "lower case". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 They keep referring to the "constitution". Is this the same constitution that they don't have anymore? Oh no, it's the new constitution that has been specially written for the good of the people to move the country forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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