webfact Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Fate of Chuwit known todayBANGKOK: -- Rak Thailand party Chuwit Kamolvisit arrived this morning at the Bangkok South Municipal Court to listen to the final ruling of his offences in ordering 131 men to forcibly demolish 60 beer bars in the heart of capital in 2003 in defiance of law.He arrived with a bowl with some consumers products which he did not explain of the purpose.But what he brought with him indicated as a gesture of an apology.The Supreme Court will have the final verdict of the 12-year-old court case in which Mr Chuwit, who was then massage parlour tycoon before he entered politics and became leader of the Rak Thailand party, and two accomplices, were charged for leading 131 men to evict bar owners out of an area known as Sukhumvit Square on Sukhumvit Soi 10.The bars sprawled over more than 10 rai of land. More than 60 beer bars were forcibly demolished.Earlier he and 131 others who included his accomplices Lt Colonel Himalai Phiewphan, a military officer attached to the Armed Forces Development in 2003, and Major Thanyathep Thammathorn, who worked at the 11th Infantry Battalion of the Royal Guards, were prosecuted in the Criminal Court for the forced eviction.But initially, the Criminal Court acquitted all defendants in the case including Chuwit, Himalai, and Thanyathep in 2006.Only his lawyer, Chanwet Malaibucha was sentenced to an eight-month in jail for showing land ownership document to Lumphini police to mislead them into believing the eviction was legitimate.Chanwet, prosecutors and co-plaintiffs appealed against the 2006 verdict.But the Appeals Court found over half of them guilty, including Chuwit and the two officers.It sentenced Chuwit and the two officers to five years in prison.But he was granted bail pending appeal to the Supreme Court.However as an MP carrying out his duty during a parliamentary session, he was not required to post any collateral, while two officers posted 500,000 baht in cash each for bail.They appealed to the Supreme Court and today the ruling will be handed down.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/fate-of-chuwit-known-today -- Thai PBS 2015-08-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I am amazed that in Thailand, how often criminals get a pass and their lawyers go to jail. Seem a complete reversal of the way things work elsewhere. Edited August 13, 2015 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 In some way, I admire this guy, he certainly is not squeaky clean, but he 's got a bigger pair than some of the current leaders and as the case shows, he gets things done.Plus he has a little book locked away, I surmise, with a few well known names in it. Anyway, he can well afford to buy his way out of his troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Why, in mentioning this atrocity, does everyone only talk about beer bars? This was a thriving tourism centre of craft shops with artisans working right on the spot (and who lost everything to this hideous creature). There were clothing shops, salons, gift shops and so on. Chuwot's actions on that night were those of a total scumbag. Yet many of you readers love him!!! Why? He was a pimp, a tout, an acknowledged briber of police and is, by this action, clearly not a man of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The wheels of justice sure need a better engine to speed up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It is worth mentioning that, apart from beer bars, a number of other small businesses were in the Sukhumvit Square area. When the rented army mob demolished everything (except the spirit house) one Sunday morning, hundreds of mostly very poor Thai workers (sometimes their families' only source of support) were rendered unemployed. Small business owners with their entire life savings invested became immediately destitute. Chuwit's remorse may be genuine, but his crime was disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 In some way, I admire this guy, he certainly is not squeaky clean, but he 's got a bigger pair than some of the current leaders and as the case shows, he gets things done.Plus he has a little book locked away, I surmise, with a few well known names in it. Anyway, he can well afford to buy his way out of his troubles. yes I too, but you can't have someone like him as PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Just Thainess! nothing will ever change. Just accept everybody in authority is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamukloy Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Haven't seen him publicly point out illegal gambling dens to the police chief of the district in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? No, not quite. There was some legal ambighuity about the rights of the people who ran businesses there, but all owners believed they were on solid footing regarding their rights as tenants. There was, as I recall, no prior negotiation about them being moved off the land - just a commando raid in the middle of the night organized by a man who thinks he's above the law and common decency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 BANGKOK: -- The Supreme Court today adjourned the hearing of the final ruling of beer bar demolition case to October 15 at 9 am when some convicts did not show up to listen to the final verdict at the Bangkok South Municipal Court today.It was not immediately known who did not show up.But the prime convict Chuwit Kamolvisit arrived early in the morning.Earlier in 2006 the Appeals Court sentenced Chuwit and two accomplices who are military officers to five year in prison for the forced demolition of 60 beer bars on Sukhumvit road.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/122993 -- Thai PBS 2015-08-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterdarby Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? No, they were paying rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The man's escaped justice for this and other evils for long enough. Make the world a cleaner place and send him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrilliant Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? Indeed but they weren't squatters per se, more victims of an elaborate scam. Apparently they'd paid for fake leases by some con man who was probably passing the cash on to Chuwit or employed by same. What is at the site now? A small park. Was a great shame really. The bar area complimented the sadly defunct Clinton Plaza nicely. A lot of people lost a lot of money and a lot of potential income over the ensuing years. I hope this guttersnipe gets taken to the cleaners and leaves court a broken man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) BANGKOK: -- The Supreme Court today adjourned the hearing of the final ruling of beer bar demolition case to October 15 at 9 am when some convicts did not show up to listen to the final verdict at the Bangkok South Municipal Court today. It was not immediately known who did not show up. But the prime convict Chuwit Kamolvisit arrived early in the morning. Earlier in 2006 the Appeals Court sentenced Chuwit and two accomplices who are military officers to five year in prison for the forced demolition of 60 beer bars on Sukhumvit road. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/122993 -- Thai PBS 2015-08-13 "He arrived with a bowl with some consumers products which he did not explain of the purpose."Maybe the bowl contained sick notes from the mummies of those who failed to appeared. Poor dears woke up with a severe case of sickly feeling in the stomachitis and a fear of justice headache. Bless. Edited August 13, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I am amazed that in Thailand, how often criminals get a pass and their lawyers go to jail. Seem a complete reversal of the way things work elsewhere. If you're referring to Chuwit he got a jail sentence not a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisloosebrain Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave?That's the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? No, they were paying rent. ...but refused to leave even after being issued eviction notices to leave the privately owned land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Nothing. There is a small park there now as Kotsak in post #13 shows with his photo. Edited August 13, 2015 by billd766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The wheels of justice sure need a better engine to speed up a bit. clean up the laws..... Alone against Sondi (the PAD guy) are over 600 cases at court for defamation and all can be appealed numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I am amazed that in Thailand, how often criminals get a pass and their lawyers go to jail. Seem a complete reversal of the way things work elsewhere. If you're referring to Chuwit he got a jail sentence not a pass. "But initially, the Criminal Court acquitted all defendants in the case including Chuwit, Himalai, and Thanyathep in 2006. Only his lawyer, Chanwet Malaibucha was sentenced to an eight-month in jail......" He got a jail sentence on appeal. Initially he got a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This could go on for another 10 years,maybe the consumer products were what he was going to be taking to his cell,Talc powder,tooth brush,paste. and was told come back .......next year? regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Seems we are only hearing half the story here. why did he arrange for the demolition? What is at the site now? Nothing. There is a small park there now as Kotsak in post #13 shows with his photo. I walked past it on Saturday. It's called a park but there's really nothing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I am amazed that in Thailand, how often criminals get a pass and their lawyers go to jail. Seem a complete reversal of the way things work elsewhere. It didn't say the lawyer went to jail, only that he was sentenced. None of these people will actually serve any time. Cops convicted of murder here and sentenced to death were released on bail AFTER losing their final appeal with the supreme court. Don't show up for the supreme court verdict - no arrest warrants just reschedule - justice in Thailand is non-existent for the elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Was this the one where he made a night time mission to demolish shops on his land set up by squatters that had no right to be there and refused to leave? Na-ah, you got it wrong, or you are attempting to mislead us with your 'squatters' story... When I remember well, there was a conflict indeed with SOME of his TENANTS, I think about the rent, the extension of occupancy, or so, that's all. When an owner is renting out his property it is his tenant who becomes the right of occupancy. Edited August 13, 2015 by bangrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I am amazed that in Thailand, how often criminals get a pass and their lawyers go to jail. Seem a complete reversal of the way things work elsewhere. It didn't say the lawyer went to jail, only that he was sentenced. None of these people will actually serve any time. Cops convicted of murder here and sentenced to death were released on bail AFTER losing their final appeal with the supreme court. Don't show up for the supreme court verdict - no arrest warrants just reschedule - justice in Thailand is non-existent for the elite. You are correct, I was a little inaccurate thinking more of a previous case. "Pichit Chuenban, Thaksin's lead defense attorney, was sentenced along with two other members of Thaksin's legal team, after one of them offered a box of sweets containing two million baht (US$60,000) to a court official on June 10, a court statement said." http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2008/06/25/thaksin039s-lawyer-sentenced-6-months-jail-violation-court039s-authority.html Edited August 13, 2015 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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