Elviajero, you can cite any laws you want but it is generally known that a nation is not obligated to let a foreign national in and the laws of that nation do not apply to foreigners.

"it is generally known that a nation is not obligated to let a foreign national in"

And there you have it. "A NATION".

A nation can apply whatever immigration laws they want. If you took the time to read what I wrote you will know that I don't dispute that. The claims I dispute are those concerning illegal actions taken by some IO's when enforcing their nations laws which are claimed to be legal and within their powers.

A nation makes its laws. An IO enforces that law. A Thai IO cannot make up law or exclude anyone from entry that it's nations law say can enter. They have the power to exclude only those excludable under law. It's that simple.

Krub

I can cite Thailand's immigration law which is all that matters. US law is irrelevant.

Then cite it. Pretty funny that you say that you can cite the law, yet you didn't.

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Guys i understand you might find this case a funny/ interesting case to debate / troll but I really wish we'd stay on topic (the questions I've asked).

So far, only two persons have answered my questions.

If mods could make sure we stay on topic that would be awesome, thanks.

Guys i understand you might find this case a funny/ interesting case to debate / troll but I really wish we'd stay on topic (the questions I've asked).

So far, only two persons have answered my questions.

If mods could make sure we stay on topic that would be awesome, thanks.

This topic is 5 months old

As previously stated by those who know both Thai law and actual practice ...

• When arriving by air, you are very unlikely to be refused entry. There are specific criteria under which immigration officials can deny you entry. For a visa exempt entry the most common are insufficient funds to support yourself or suspicion of working without a work permit. You can also be refused for not having an outbound ticket within 30 days of entry, but this is very rarely enforced by immigration (but the airlines can insist on it). Note that such a serious step would be taken by the immigration supervisor, not the immigration official handling the incoming travelers.
• Some land borders make up their own rules. They may refuse you entry without stamping your passport with any legal reason. They get away with it because there is no airline forced to take responsibility for returning you to your point of origin in the land border case. There would be reasonable grounds for complaint if you are improperly refused entry in this way. Possibly calling 1111 and explaining the situation would help, but I am not aware that anyone has tried.
• If legally refused entry, you have a right of appeal.
• Unlike in certain other countries, individual immigration officials do not have unlimited legal right to refuse anyone entry. They can only refuse entry pursuant to a reason specified in the relevant laws.

I posted this info before....but once again here it is.

In the Thai consulate in Penang there is an English sign posted that clearly states that when crossing by a land border from Malaysia into Thailand you are likely to be asked to show the amount of 20,000 Baht per person in cash to enter Thailand.

This applies to entering over a land border only, and I have never seen it applied to those who fly into Thailand.

As a precaution I always bring 50 thousand baht in cash whenever I enter Thailand, but I have never been asked to show it.

Better safe than sorry.

As a precaution I always bring 50 thousand baht in cash whenever I enter Thailand, but I have never been asked to show it.

Better safe than sorry.

Seems a bit daft to me wandering around with 50 k in your back burner.

As a precaution I always bring 50 thousand baht in cash whenever I enter Thailand, but I have never been asked to show it.

Better safe than sorry.

Seems a bit daft to me wandering around with 50 k in your back burner.

No more daft than walking around with 20 k in your back burner.

Wow, I have a whole $1378.00 US in my pocket.

You're either broke or paranoid.

As a precaution I always bring 50 thousand baht in cash whenever I enter Thailand, but I have never been asked to show it.

Better safe than sorry.

Seems a bit daft to me wandering around with 50 k in your back burner.

No more daft than walking around with 20 k in your back burner.

Wow, I have a whole $1378.00 US in my pocket.

You're either broke or paranoid.

Actually it's about 30 k difference from 20k.

I'm neither broke nor paranoid.

Just not stupid enough to walk about with large quantities of cash on my person.

You crack on.

Guys i understand you might find this case a funny/ interesting case to debate / troll but I really wish we'd stay on topic (the questions I've asked).

So far, only two persons have answered my questions.

If mods could make sure we stay on topic that would be awesome, thanks.

You seem to have posted in the wrong thread

Yes, you're right. Sorry about that!

I nearly got refused with only one prior visa exempt entry, and I had documents showing proof of cash and airline tickets out (they did not care to see those). It was because I had a previous overstay, but no blacklisting or refusals prior. I was pulled out of line and had to see a higher immigration officer who let me in.