Trump has Univision anchor removed from news conference

[arjunadawn]

"You cannot deny citizenship to children born in this country."

"Why do you say that?" Trump replied. "Some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true."

Trump - name one. And, no, Justice Scalia does not count, because he is nowhere close to being a legal scholar, nevertheless "great".

While legal scholars will decide such issues primae faciae opinions are equally important, and Americans reject this born of soil nonsense; it is increasingly realized to be a suicide pact. One should not hold to laws or the interpretations of such whereby doing so injures the nation. In an age of endless debt, scarce resources, and few jobs, it is disastrous to have a policy whereby someone arrives, has a baby, that baby receives your money, and then that baby competes for work and a future with your child. Would that America had endless resources perhaps yes, but charity runs thin when it is coerced. Liberal polices like this that are designed to inflict good upon americans under penalty of law are all the rage- this is why America is dying.

In fact, whereas our entire legal heritage is largely devolved from common law the born of soil rather than born of blood is not part of that. And of course it would not. Born of soil was an invention extrapolated from a constitutional amendment aimed at addressing US black- heritage, not perpetual application to anyone who dropped blood on the soil. Born of blood and its variations are hardly objectionable. The majority of the world has laws based on this concept. It is roughly only the western hemisphere that has reversed this concept into a born of soil issue.

[elgordo38]

Some people need to learn that hispanics are NOT a majority or a plurality of voters in the US. Americans are supporting Trump because every other person in the race, Republican and Democrat, is a timid wimp.

Politically speaking that's a very good attitude so keep running with it because there's a brick wall straight out ahead called the election.

Hispanics are the second largest group in the US and they vote accordingly. In 2012 Prez Obama got 72% of the Hispanic vote, which is more than enough for the Democrat to slay the Republican candidate for prez. In this election more Hispanics than ever will vote and it may go to 80% or more for the D candidate for prez.

Very good so keep at it over there on the Trump margins of society and politics.

As is obvious from your post, you are agitated and fearful. Trump is winning. Trump will be president precisely because the majority of Americans despise and hate the mainstream media and their so-called experts who keep trying to scare everybody about the so-called hispanic "colossus," most of whose "members" actually hate each other's guts. Cubans hate Mexicans and vice versa. Nearly every Central American hates people from neighboring Central American countries AND Mexico. The hispanic monolith is nothing more than another dream of you and yours which is about to pop and vanish into thin air.

I lived in Mexico for 10 yrs. and let me tell you the Mexicans hate white folk except for the money they spend in employing gardeners and maids. They also want the land back that America has taken over the years. Their attitude is not that they are crossing the border illegally but travelling back to the motherland. Jorge Ramos is one slick machine gun style speaker he has all his material down pat as he has covered the same ground time and time again. Once the Hispanics reach 51% of the population I would not be surprised to see him run for president he is one slick talking hmm you take it from there.

[wwest5829]

Yes, pleeeze, Trum/Cruz, OK,OK....Trump/ Palin!?,

Edited August 26, 2015 by Scott

[wwest5829]

It's a constitutional matter. Not a matter of opinion. Of course it's perfectly valid to think the constitution should be amended. Again.

Immigration? But he stated that legal scholars say it is not required to grant citizenship to those born in the U.S. Already. From this, there would be no need to change anything. Revisionist history, methinks.

[Publicus]

Focus groups child, focus groups. That is where the serious professionals in each party and at the top of the various campaigns get the very strong indication up to 80% of Hispanic voters will vote D in the election.

Jorge Ramos the nightly news anchor at Spanish language Univision could now shoot for 90% and the really bad news for the R party is that Ramos will have the next 18 months to press the case that a Republican president would be the worst thing for Latinos since the plague.

Probably worse.

Trump isn't driven by focus groups.

As I mentioned earlier, had Romney gotten 4% more of the white vote in 2012, he would be President right now. It would have taken 71% of the Hispanic vote to have achieved the same result.

No Republican is going to get 70+ percent of the Hispanic vote. Trump will more than make up for any losses of the Hispanic vote with White voters of both parties that agree with him on Immigration and other issues.

Note much polling on Hispanics, but the one I saw had Trump getting 31% of Hispanics in Nevada.

Regardless. Trump is not going to pander to Hispanics in an attempt to get 45% of their vote like Romney got in 2012.

He will more than make up for the losses with voters that want to put an end to illegal immigration.

Ramos can yap like a little Chihuahua all he wants for the next 14 months, but all he did was make Trump look good today.

A lotta wild statements to correct, so let's roll up the sleeves and get stepping.....

had Romney gotten 4% more of the white vote in 2012, he would be President right now

Had Romney been a black Democrat in 2012 he would be President right now.....if, but, coulda, woulda, shoulda.....

Trump will more than make up for any losses of the Hispanic vote with White voters of both parties that agree with him on Immigration and other issues.

This Republican wishful myth guarantees they have a losing strategy. More Hispanics will vote in 2016 than ever before and fewer white voters will vote cause there are fewer white voters in each election since 2000. Moreover, ever more Hispanics have voted in each election since then. By 2040 the number of eligible Hispanic voters will be 50 million.

Note much polling on Hispanics, but the one I saw had Trump getting 31% of Hispanics in Nevada.

It is what in the business is called an 'outlier' poll same as the one published to the thread by Gravis Marketing which is a professional marketing firm that does the research it likes to find and show to advance the firms profits.

Regardless. Trump is not going to pander to Hispanics in an attempt to get 45% of their vote like Romney got in 2012.

Romney got 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2012. McCain got 31% of the Hispanic vote in 2008. GW Bush got 40% in 2004. Dunno about anyone else but I think I detect a trend here driven by the Republican party and exacerbated severely by Donald Trump. The Republican establishment had already been hoping that this time it wouldn't sink too far below 25% and that was well before Trump. The R in 2016 needs 62% of white voters to overcome the Hispanic R deficit. Romney got 59% when he needed 61% and in 2016 there will be fewer whites to voter than there were in 2012. GOP RIP.

Ramos can yap like a little Chihuahua all he wants for the next 14 months, but all he did was make Trump look good today.

After the Dubuque Duel in Iowa with The Donald, Jorge Ramos now ranks among Hispanics after Simon Bolivar and Cristobar Colon (who of course sailed in 1492 under the flag of Spain).

[PHP87]

Keep underestimating Trump and the effect he is having on voters, especially those that are anti-immigration.

More numbers for you to digest:

http://www.ibtimes.com/election-2016-donald-trump-poll-numbers-surprise-favorable-views-support-growing-2068372

Like I said, Trump will be selling ad space on the border wall to Univision.

And that little Chihuahua Jorge Ramos is nothing more than an illegal alien activist - legal immigrants don't like him nor do they like illegals.

They will be voting for Trump as well.

Regardless of the % of Hispanic votes Trump gets, he will get more than enough votes from American citizens that are fed up with illegals and crimes by illegals.

50 Million Hispanic voters in 2040?

Good luck getting over that wall...

And if a putz like Romney can get 59% of the white vote, Trump will easily get 65% - Trump does not need the Latin vote and he won't pander to them to get their vote.

Legal Latins support Trump because they too don't like illegals that cut in front of them when they played by the rules.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/hispanic-woman-commentator-gives-best-defense-of-donald-trump-ever-video/

Just like that little yapping Chihuahua Jorge Ramos, who won't even have a job after Trump wins his lawsuit against Univision.

Edited August 26, 2015 by PHP87

[englishoak]

21st century and the prospect of Trump in the whitehouse ? ...... LOL going backwards much ?

[PHP87]

21st century and the prospect of Trump in the whitehouse ? ...... LOL going backwards much ?

I suppose your idea of moving forward would be 8 more years of the idiocy we've endured for the past 7 years...

[englishoak]

21st century and the prospect of Trump in the whitehouse ? ...... LOL going backwards much ?

I suppose your idea of moving forward would be 8 more years of the idiocy we've endured for the past 7 years...

Pfft dont think the years prior were much cop with Bush dumber and dumber or the Clinton dynasty much better but honestly Trump ??

If thats the best the American people can come up with its a pretty messed up society then isnt it ?

Talk about a culture in decline.

[Publicus]

"You cannot deny citizenship to children born in this country."

"Why do you say that?" Trump replied. "Some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true."

Trump - name one. And, no, Justice Scalia does not count, because he is nowhere close to being a legal scholar, nevertheless "great".

While legal scholars will decide such issues primae faciae opinions are equally important, and Americans reject this born of soil nonsense; it is increasingly realized to be a suicide pact. One should not hold to laws or the interpretations of such whereby doing so injures the nation. In an age of endless debt, scarce resources, and few jobs, it is disastrous to have a policy whereby someone arrives, has a baby, that baby receives your money, and then that baby competes for work and a future with your child. Would that America had endless resources perhaps yes, but charity runs thin when it is coerced. Liberal polices like this that are designed to inflict good upon americans under penalty of law are all the rage- this is why America is dying.

In fact, whereas our entire legal heritage is largely devolved from common law the born of soil rather than born of blood is not part of that. And of course it would not. Born of soil was an invention extrapolated from a constitutional amendment aimed at addressing US black- heritage, not perpetual application to anyone who dropped blood on the soil. Born of blood and its variations are hardly objectionable. The majority of the world has laws based on this concept. It is roughly only the western hemisphere that has reversed this concept into a born of soil issue.

German citizenship has recently been expanded beyond the previous requirement of a German blood line. A person no longer needs to be German to become a German citizen and this is an historically wise decision by the German elites.

The wild stories from the Republican right against undocumented immigrants are a part of the Right's conscious campaign to make a radical change of America's immigration laws, precepts, principles that have existed since the first successful settlement in 1620 in what became and is Massachusetts.

The present campaign is to criminalise immigration. Presently and historically, immigration is a matter of civil law. An overstay or an undocumented entry is a civil matter and it always has been a civil mattyer. Consequently there is no punishment, only deportation. The criminal laws apply to immigrants too, but not as immigrants per se.

Republicans and the Right want to criminalise immigration and have concocted wild stories about immigration and immigrants in their campaign to stop the past 40 years of conscious US immigration policy that favors Latin America over Europe.

This born of the blood stuff has become recognized in Germany and in Europe for what it in fact is.

[PHP87]

21st century and the prospect of Trump in the whitehouse ? ...... LOL going backwards much ?

I suppose your idea of moving forward would be 8 more years of the idiocy we've endured for the past 7 years...

Pfft dont think the years prior were much cop with Bush dumber and dumber or the Clinton dynasty much better but honestly Trump ??

If thats the best the American people can come up with its a pretty messed up society then isnt it ?

Talk about a culture in decline.

A lot of people see it differently than you and see it as making America great again.

You don't like it?

Too bad.

[PHP87]

"You cannot deny citizenship to children born in this country."

"Why do you say that?" Trump replied. "Some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true."

Trump - name one. And, no, Justice Scalia does not count, because he is nowhere close to being a legal scholar, nevertheless "great".

While legal scholars will decide such issues primae faciae opinions are equally important, and Americans reject this born of soil nonsense; it is increasingly realized to be a suicide pact. One should not hold to laws or the interpretations of such whereby doing so injures the nation. In an age of endless debt, scarce resources, and few jobs, it is disastrous to have a policy whereby someone arrives, has a baby, that baby receives your money, and then that baby competes for work and a future with your child. Would that America had endless resources perhaps yes, but charity runs thin when it is coerced. Liberal polices like this that are designed to inflict good upon americans under penalty of law are all the rage- this is why America is dying.

In fact, whereas our entire legal heritage is largely devolved from common law the born of soil rather than born of blood is not part of that. And of course it would not. Born of soil was an invention extrapolated from a constitutional amendment aimed at addressing US black- heritage, not perpetual application to anyone who dropped blood on the soil. Born of blood and its variations are hardly objectionable. The majority of the world has laws based on this concept. It is roughly only the western hemisphere that has reversed this concept into a born of soil issue.

German citizenship has recently been expanded beyond the previous requirement of a German blood line. A person no longer needs to be German to become a German citizen and this is an historically wise decision by the German elites.

The wild stories from the Republican right against undocumented immigrants are a part of the Right's conscious campaign to make a radical change of America's immigration laws, precepts, principles that have existed since the first successful settlement in 1620 in what became and is Massachusetts.

The present campaign is to criminalise immigration. Presently and historically, immigration is a matter of civil law. An overstay or an undocumented entry is a civil matter and it always has been a civil mattyer. Consequently there is no punishment, only deportation. The criminal laws apply to immigrants too, but not as immigrants per se.

Republicans and the Right want to criminalise immigration and have concocted wild stories about immigration and immigrants in their campaign to stop the past 40 years of conscious US immigration policy that favors Latin America over Europe.

This born of the blood stuff has become recognized in Germany and in Europe for what it in fact is.

Wild stories about "undocumented immigrants"?

They are "Illegal Aliens" and not "undocumented immigrants"

And these "wild stories"?

They're true.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/23/liberal-study-unintentionally-reveals-nationwide-illegal-alien-crime-spree/

Illegals are committing crimes, including murder and rape and it's a real problem and people are sick of it.

Obama does nothing but talk while people waltz across the border.

That won't happen once a wall is built and laws are put in place to punish employers that hire illegals.

No jobs, illegals will self-deport.

It won't take some massive effort, other than denying them jobs and government freebies.

And no, you can't have your baby here. Go to a hospital in your country.

Illegal immigration is already a criminal act.

Republicans and Trump will enforce those laws and not allow millions of illegal aliens to waltz into the US like some people would like to see.

Sorry, but Trump is not going to allow the Colonization of America if he can help it, despite people like you.

Edited August 26, 2015 by PHP87

[Jonmarleesco]

'A 2006 report ... found that as much as 45 percent of the people in the U.S. illegally entered with legal visas ...' Illegally entered with legal visas?

[Publicus]

"You cannot deny citizenship to children born in this country."

"Why do you say that?" Trump replied. "Some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true."

Trump - name one. And, no, Justice Scalia does not count, because he is nowhere close to being a legal scholar, nevertheless "great".

While legal scholars will decide such issues primae faciae opinions are equally important, and Americans reject this born of soil nonsense; it is increasingly realized to be a suicide pact. One should not hold to laws or the interpretations of such whereby doing so injures the nation. In an age of endless debt, scarce resources, and few jobs, it is disastrous to have a policy whereby someone arrives, has a baby, that baby receives your money, and then that baby competes for work and a future with your child. Would that America had endless resources perhaps yes, but charity runs thin when it is coerced. Liberal polices like this that are designed to inflict good upon americans under penalty of law are all the rage- this is why America is dying.

In fact, whereas our entire legal heritage is largely devolved from common law the born of soil rather than born of blood is not part of that. And of course it would not. Born of soil was an invention extrapolated from a constitutional amendment aimed at addressing US black- heritage, not perpetual application to anyone who dropped blood on the soil. Born of blood and its variations are hardly objectionable. The majority of the world has laws based on this concept. It is roughly only the western hemisphere that has reversed this concept into a born of soil issue.

German citizenship has recently been expanded beyond the previous requirement of a German blood line. A person no longer needs to be German to become a German citizen and this is an historically wise decision by the German elites.

The wild stories from the Republican right against undocumented immigrants are a part of the Right's conscious campaign to make a radical change of America's immigration laws, precepts, principles that have existed since the first successful settlement in 1620 in what became and is Massachusetts.

The present campaign is to criminalise immigration. Presently and historically, immigration is a matter of civil law. An overstay or an undocumented entry is a civil matter and it always has been a civil mattyer. Consequently there is no punishment, only deportation. The criminal laws apply to immigrants too, but not as immigrants per se.

Republicans and the Right want to criminalise immigration and have concocted wild stories about immigration and immigrants in their campaign to stop the past 40 years of conscious US immigration policy that favors Latin America over Europe.

This born of the blood stuff has become recognized in Germany and in Europe for what it in fact is.

Wild stories about "undocumented immigrants"?

They are "Illegal Aliens" and not "undocumented immigrants"

And these "wild stories"?

They're true.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/23/liberal-study-unintentionally-reveals-nationwide-illegal-alien-crime-spree/

Illegals are committing crimes, including murder and rape and it's a real problem and people are sick of it.

Obama does nothing but talk while people waltz across the border.

That won't happen once a wall is built and laws are put in place to punish employers that hire illegals.

No jobs, illegals will self-deport.

It won't take some massive effort, other than denying them jobs and government freebies.

And no, you can't have your baby here. Go to a hospital in your country.

Illegal immigration is already a criminal act.

Republicans and Trump will enforce those laws and not allow millions of illegal aliens to waltz into the US like some people would like to see.

Sorry, but Trump is not going to allow the Colonization of America if he can help it, despite people like you.

Illegal immigration is already a criminal act.

It has never been criminal to be an immigrant of any kind. Illegal immigration as the Right terms it is a civil violation of civil law and has never had anything to do with criminal law. Undocumented immigrants violate civil laws. There is no 'punishment' for violation of a civil law. Civil laws involve penalties, not punishments. Deportation is a penalty.

Republicans and the Right want to make immigration a matter of criminal law. This is their response to the past 40 years of US Government immigration policy that consciously favors Latin America over Europe. The right hates this.

If the right can make "illegal immigrants" criminals, it will make all immigration the right does not like criminal. All immigration would become a matter of criminal law so that any immigrants the far out extreme right does not like can be incarcerated and punished, to include capital punishment.

Edited August 26, 2015 by Publicus

[whaleboneman]

Some people need to learn that hispanics are NOT a majority or a plurality of voters in the US. Americans are supporting Trump because every other person in the race, Republican and Democrat, is a timid wimp.

Politically speaking that's a very good attitude so keep running with it because there's a brick wall straight out ahead called the election.

Hispanics are the second largest group in the US and they vote accordingly. In 2012 Prez Obama got 72% of the Hispanic vote, which is more than enough for the Democrat to slay the Republican candidate for prez. In this election more Hispanics than ever will vote and it may go to 80% or more for the D candidate for prez.

Very good so keep at it over there on the Trump margins of society and politics.

As is obvious from your post, you are agitated and fearful. Trump is winning. Trump will be president precisely because the majority of Americans despise and hate the mainstream media and their so-called experts who keep trying to scare everybody about the so-called hispanic "colossus," most of whose "members" actually hate each other's guts. Cubans hate Mexicans and vice versa. Nearly every Central American hates people from neighboring Central American countries AND Mexico. The hispanic monolith is nothing more than another dream of you and yours which is about to pop and vanish into thin air.

I have traveled extensively in latin america. I never saw all this hate you speak of. I do see it in your posts though. And your avatar reminds me of someone...probably your hero?

[Jingthing]

It's still early and the republicans have a lot of Bozos on their roster and this early the chances of The Donald actually being nominated (much less elected) are not that great. So why waste time worrying about that? I do see the entertainment value and that is fabulous. Enjoy it while it lasts! I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

[englishoak]

21st century and the prospect of Trump in the whitehouse ? ...... LOL going backwards much ?

I suppose your idea of moving forward would be 8 more years of the idiocy we've endured for the past 7 years...

Pfft dont think the years prior were much cop with Bush dumber and dumber or the Clinton dynasty much better but honestly Trump ??

If thats the best the American people can come up with its a pretty messed up society then isnt it ?

Talk about a culture in decline.

A lot of people see it differently than you and see it as making America great again.

You don't like it?

Too bad.

Why you felt the need to post a mug shot as a point I have no idea but it is amusing you mention great, trump and America in the same sentence.

Exactly what I meant by a culture in decline.

Thats some crazy thought process you got going on there bud, thanks for the example,its an amusing one ill give you that.

Edited August 26, 2015 by englishoak

[whaleboneman]

'A 2006 report ... found that as much as 45 percent of the people in the U.S. illegally entered with legal visas ...' Illegally entered with legal visas?

Put a comma after illegally.

[F430murci]

Trump is no longer a closet dictator.

It is really up to Faux to slay this monster it helped to create and that has turned on its mad creator. Or maybe they can take each other down.

You do realize Trump permitted him to come back in when he was not being disruptive.

Candidly, I am glad to see political people standing up to ridiculous press bs, especially somewcican dude with an immigration agenda. We need to shut down our borders and kick losers out.

What blows me away is we make it diffict for decent well educated people like certain Asian and Eastern Europe people to get a Visa or come in, but do not do crap to keep loser, uneducated broke, no job skill people from other countries our.

[PHP87]

"As acclaimed Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald has documented, “In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.”

Yeah, wild stories alright...

[PHP87]

German citizenship has recently been expanded beyond the previous requirement of a German blood line. A person no longer needs to be German to become a German citizen and this is an historically wise decision by the German elites.

The wild stories from the Republican right against undocumented immigrants are a part of the Right's conscious campaign to make a radical change of America's immigration laws, precepts, principles that have existed since the first successful settlement in 1620 in what became and is Massachusetts.

The present campaign is to criminalise immigration. Presently and historically, immigration is a matter of civil law. An overstay or an undocumented entry is a civil matter and it always has been a civil mattyer. Consequently there is no punishment, only deportation. The criminal laws apply to immigrants too, but not as immigrants per se.

Republicans and the Right want to criminalise immigration and have concocted wild stories about immigration and immigrants in their campaign to stop the past 40 years of conscious US immigration policy that favors Latin America over Europe.

This born of the blood stuff has become recognized in Germany and in Europe for what it in fact is.

Wild stories about "undocumented immigrants"?

They are "Illegal Aliens" and not "undocumented immigrants"

And these "wild stories"?

They're true.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/23/liberal-study-unintentionally-reveals-nationwide-illegal-alien-crime-spree/

Illegals are committing crimes, including murder and rape and it's a real problem and people are sick of it.

Obama does nothing but talk while people waltz across the border.

That won't happen once a wall is built and laws are put in place to punish employers that hire illegals.

No jobs, illegals will self-deport.

It won't take some massive effort, other than denying them jobs and government freebies.

And no, you can't have your baby here. Go to a hospital in your country.

Illegal immigration is already a criminal act.

Republicans and Trump will enforce those laws and not allow millions of illegal aliens to waltz into the US like some people would like to see.

Sorry, but Trump is not going to allow the Colonization of America if he can help it, despite people like you.

Illegal immigration is already a criminal act.

It has never been criminal to be an immigrant of any kind. Illegal immigration as the Right terms it is a civil violation of civil law and has never had anything to do with criminal law. Undocumented immigrants violate civil laws. There is no 'punishment' for violation of a civil law. Civil laws involve penalties, not punishments. Deportation is a penalty.

Republicans and the Right want to make immigration a matter of criminal law. This is their response to the past 40 years of US Government immigration policy that consciously favors Latin America over Europe. The right hates this.

If the right can make "illegal immigrants" criminals, it will make all immigration the right does not like criminal. All immigration would become a matter of criminal law so that any immigrants the far out extreme right does not like can be incarcerated and punished, to include capital punishment.

You can be jailed if you overstay your visa in Thailand.

As well as in the US

Nice fantasy, but facts say otherwise.

[PHP87]

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

[Publicus]

It's still early and the republicans have a lot of Bozos on their roster and this early the chances of The Donald actually being nominated (much less elected) are not that great. So why waste time worrying about that? I do see the entertainment value and that is fabulous. Enjoy it while it lasts! I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

It might be a bit egocentric to be drawn in to believing the Republican party will come to you to please you and a small handful of other voters in the country that the owners and the operators of the Republican party rather dismiss absolutely.

It is indeed early so one can only focus on the vainglorious and eccentric thinking and beliefs some people have of an institution, i.e., the Republican party, accommodating their fanticising about the nature of the beast they seek to tame and domesticate into their own political house and home. In other words, I dunno of any house capable of successfully welcoming and accommodating a 600 pound gorilla that hates Obamacare.

Neither Kasich nor Rubio is 'correct' on immigration and that is for starters among the R establishment. Kasich is a very popular governor of Ohio so the national Republican money and operatives are not going to rough him up. Neither will they take seriously Kasich's own eccentric political record, however, which does not translate to the general electorate. Marco 'Boy Wonder' Rubio impresses no one....well, one or two.

The Republican party is in short not going to come to you.

[PHP87]

It's still early and the republicans have a lot of Bozos on their roster and this early the chances of The Donald actually being nominated (much less elected) are not that great. So why waste time worrying about that? I do see the entertainment value and that is fabulous. Enjoy it while it lasts! I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

It might be a bit egocentric to be drawn in to believing the Republican party will come to you to please you and a small handful of other voters in the country that the owners and the operators of the Republican party rather dismiss absolutely.

It is indeed early so one can only focus on the vainglorious and eccentric thinking and beliefs some people have of an institution, i.e., the Republican party, accommodating their fanticising about the nature of the beast they seek to tame and domesticate into their own political house and home. In other words, I dunno of any house capable of successfully welcoming and accommodating a 600 pound gorilla that hates Obamacare.

Neither Kasich nor Rubio is 'correct' on immigration and that is for starters among the R establishment. Kasich is a very popular governor of Ohio so the national Republican money and operatives are not going to rough him up. Neither will they take seriously Kasich's own eccentric political record, however, which does not translate to the general electorate. Marco 'Boy Wonder' Rubio impresses no one....well, one or two.

The Republican party is in short not going to come to you.

Kasicsh and Rubio are RINO's (Republicans in name only0

Trump, Cruz, Jindal and a few others are not.

Most of others the are.

Graham, Bush, Walker, Huckabee, etc...

[englishoak]

Pfft dont think the years prior were much cop with Bush dumber and dumber or the Clinton dynasty much better but honestly Trump ??

If thats the best the American people can come up with its a pretty messed up society then isnt it ?

Talk about a culture in decline.

A lot of people see it differently than you and see it as making America great again.

You don't like it?

Too bad.

Why you felt the need to post a mug shot as a point I have no idea but it is amusing you mention great, trump and America in the same sentence.

Exactly what I meant by a culture in decline.

Thats some crazy thought process you got going on there bud, thanks for the example,its an amusing one ill give you that.

Mug shot?

Grow up.

How about practicing what the great American comb over there advises and just deal with it

[Jingthing]

It's still early and the republicans have a lot of Bozos on their roster and this early the chances of The Donald actually being nominated (much less elected) are not that great. So why waste time worrying about that? I do see the entertainment value and that is fabulous. Enjoy it while it lasts! I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

It might be a bit egocentric to be drawn in to believing the Republican party will come to you to please you and a small handful of other voters in the country that the owners and the operators of the Republican party rather dismiss absolutely.

It is indeed early so one can only focus on the vainglorious and eccentric thinking and beliefs some people have of an institution, i.e., the Republican party, accommodating their fanticising about the nature of the beast they seek to tame and domesticate into their own political house and home. In other words, I dunno of any house capable of successfully welcoming and accommodating a 600 pound gorilla that hates Obamacare.

Neither Kasich nor Rubio is 'correct' on immigration and that is for starters among the R establishment. Kasich is a very popular governor of Ohio so the national Republican money and operatives are not going to rough him up. Neither will they take seriously Kasich's own eccentric political record, however, which does not translate to the general electorate. Marco 'Boy Wonder' Rubio impresses no one....well, one or two.

The Republican party is in short not going to come to you.

Dude, we've been through this before, and I correct you before, but you insist on baiting me again with your absurd assertion that Kasich or Rubio represent my personal politics. Please stop it. It's getting really annoying. I am predicting that ticket but that does not mean I would support ANY republican ticket. Do you get it now? If not, how many times before you get it?

Again ... yet again, I think that ticket would work their THEIR party (NOT MINE!!!!!) because Kasich (OHIO!) is a more friendly package for the right wing agenda and Rubio while even more right wing represents the future, token Latino bonus, and FLORIDA. It would be a very smart ticket for them and I'm giving them credit that they are not going to throw their great chance away and nominate someone CRAZY like Trump or Cruz or even Rubio at the TOP of their ticket. Kasich of course would be their best choice to get the maximum number of SWING voters.

Kasich is mentioned by many as their "dark horse" ... so many that he is no dark horse, he is becoming a fairly likely horse.

Edited August 26, 2015 by Jingthing

[NeverSure]

-snip- the owners and the operators of the Republican party rather dismiss absolutely.

-snip- The Republican party is in short not going to come to you.

The "owners and the operators of the Republican party" aren't in control right now. Their presumed positions have been hijacked by the people. For at least the next while the people will be dictating the terms to those self-appointed but losing "leaders".

It's a fun show to watch - the wailing and gnashing of teeth by those who presumed too much.

Cheers.

[NeverSure]

It's still early and the republicans have a lot of Bozos on their roster and this early the chances of The Donald actually being nominated (much less elected) are not that great. So why waste time worrying about that? I do see the entertainment value and that is fabulous. Enjoy it while it lasts! I still expect a realistic republican (and competitive) ticket: KASICH RUBIO.

JT we've been down this road before and I told you how to spot a loser - Hillary. Now you pick more losers.

It's time to separate how you feel about this to what your mind tells you is happening.

I told you that Hillary was a proven loser with a personality of a bale of hay. So are your newest picks - wannabes without a following.

The problem for Dems is that they don't have a candidate. I told you how a nobody named Obama came out of nowhere and beat Hillary last time when she was the presumed anointed. I told you that when someone who actually had a personality showed up it would be all over.

It's over.

Cheers.

[Jingthing]

The 2016 election is over? That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. It has barely begun. DUH!

[Publicus]

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

The post hasn't any depth nor does it have context so let's take a closer look at the federal immigration laws. Specifically, illegal entry or unlawful presence of an immigrant, because an undocumented immigrant is very likely to be one or the other. The following legal presentation even uses the Right's terminology of "illegal alien."

Improper Entry Is a Crime

The most common crime associated with illegal immigration is likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor. Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.

Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime

Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons.

But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal. An illegal alien cannot be criminally charged or incarcerated simply for being undocumented. (Emphasis added.)

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html

The Trump Republicans and the rest of the Right have long declared undocumented immigrants per se to be criminals. This is 100% wrong in the law and the Constitution.The Republican Right has done this regardless of whether the "illegal immigrants" are actually charged with a crime. To the Right, and they are wrong in the law and the Constitution, being an undocumented immigrant is per se a crime.

The law is and always has been that the 'unlawful presence' of an immigrant is a civil violation, not a violation of criminal law or of the Constitution.

After the Trump Republicans and the Right criminalise all undocumented immigrants per se, then the documented immigrants will be set upon. The Republican Right hasn't yet used the term, but they want a Fortress America. To wall out the Latino "hordes."

Edited August 26, 2015 by Publicus