stickylies Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 If what we are reading is accurate, the BiB got lucky when someone living near this guy was suspicious and reported him. exactly what they said themselves: they needed luck (choke dee) to solve it. which is not rare with investigations, a bit of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 ... the criticism I and many others aim at the RTP is down to their stupid press statements... this one being no different. They will say anything to downplay this a a potential bigger issue, for fear of losing tourists and tourism revenue. ... After the Bali bombing, did anyone in authority advise tourists to cancel their planned vacations there? After 9/11, did security staff advise, "Stay away from NYC, it's dangerous"? After 7/7, was there a government advisory issued for people not to visit London any more? You claimed earlier to have been involved with something in Basrah that involved Japanese officials downplaying political tensions just ahead of a spate of unfortunate car bombings. Doesn't your experience also allow that if you sew enough disinformation and openly admit to being at a dead end in the investigation, the perpetrators may become complacent and the public become more aware that their safety is also a personal responsibility? Although there's nothing so far to suggest that this arrest was nothing more than the result of the piqued curiosity and public spirit of a concerned local who reported his suspicions, there's nothing to suggest that the RTP's self-professed toe-stubbing, lack of resources and shooting in the dark has been a hindrance to what must be a very complex and ongoing investigation? With regards to authorities advising tourists, you might want to have a look at the recent FCO and local authorities warnings about Tunisia, and oddly enough Turkey. Not quite, the downplaying was done by my clients who was with the DOD, trying to downplay the situation to the Japanese, to bring in investment, the Japanese sourced their own Intelligence, and were correct to be hesitant My experiences teaches me that when something is usually too good to be true, that's normally the case, and never rely on what people tell you what you want to hear, when there's a much bigger picture at play. I also have no doubt that there's some outstanding Thai coppers who are very good at their jobs, but they are let down by their senior officers sticking their two cents worth in, and not for the first time causing conflicts, don't you recall the senior coppers all saying conflicting things about the Samui bombing, which still hasn't been solved? Then there's senior coppers in this case stating it was politically motivated, and a domestic issue? These coppers should keep their gobs shut, as they do nothing to build up the confidence of their force. Now this result also comes after some very damning articles even here on TVF about their shortcomings and failings, and public confidence at an all time low.. and right on cue, a positive story, with bells and whistles and everything is perfect again... but is it really? Coincidence, or luck (which is exactly what Somyot stated they needed last week) or just sterling police work behind the scenes? or a combination perhaps of all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Seems he's far to careless or downright stupid or downright unfortunate, he could have been out of the country in hours, certainly days..whys he still here.. maybe into people smuggling but that's not bombing i am very sceptical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazey Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 RT@W7VOA: Police display one of the passport seized in room of #BangkokBlast suspect (no confirmation if real identity). http://t.co/yJCvVWKvaG Why does it say date of expiry two times? Someone with same passport let us know if Date of Expiry is listed twice on yours. The passport is valid for 10 years. re-read it. you have to read it again if were like you say it should say date of issue up and date of expiry bellow but it says date of expiry in both dates, so it's a mistake. What it's to be discobered here is if it's an embassy mistake or some Passport's fakemaker mistake YOU have to read the thread again, I already stepped back and congrat'd the poster on his find. I initially did not see this, but acknowledged the previous poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK1 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Scapegoat written all over this arrest. Don't believe it.Give the goat-a-break and go back to using your red-right-hand for a change. Edited August 29, 2015 by MK1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (Sorry, correction) This was August 19th... At that time, Police pointed the Uighurs' trail... Right, the police seems to lack of coherence... But there are a lot of people making statements : the Police... and the Army ! And Police is not monolithic... Remember Kho Tao : at first Police pointed to a trail related to high so people... Look about the "Bangkok 2006 bombing" : police pointed at a "Malay separatists" trail, but Police dismissed it... same as later about the Samui bombing... This is not the first time there are divergence between Army and Police... In this case, maybe some police officers did their job... And now, Somyot tells what Prayuth said since the beginning : "no links with the government policy about Uighrs!" Oops, sorry : I wanted to write "Army dismissed it"... Several times, Army dismissed the Police inquiry (BKK Bombing 2006, Samui Bombing... and this last case...) Interesting too (quote from a famous English language newspaper) : "Gen Prayut also called on the media to avoid "digging" about the government's international policy on the Uighurs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBangkok Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 This guy is probably uyghur, carrying a fake Turkish passport. No Turk would carry out an attack like this, all turks in Bangkok are either kebab shop owners or sex tourists the only bomb they have in mind is a shot of viagra. I am sure there are also a lot Turkish "Specialists" for rent. It doesn't mean that he is a Islamic extremist. Someone could have paid him. But I am sure Police and Military will ask him. Hehehe, ask...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So many replies to this topic but not a single person saying "Boy did I sound like a moron claiming that it was the red shirts" nor "Gee jolly did I sound like a moron claiming it was the Junta" Thai Visa members don't like to lose face. that's because that is the last thing they have after they lost the first wife, the scoopie, the hilux, the first house, that 20k golden necklace, several buffalos, aso ;-) I won't give you a "like" but it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence C4 explosives are only available to the military. You can't make it. Seems unbelievable evidence to me. More evidence pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well they were under pressure to arrest somebody... anybody. Now they just have to plant and fabricate evidence. Case solved. Dont be so insulting to the dead Where in his post is he insulting the victims? I think you are more insulting than Reigntax as you don't even consider the injured. Shame on you for being assumptious and rude to all victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The fact this Turkish man's home has a lot of explosives is disturbing enough, and definitely warrants an arrest. I was just looking for that and found nothing! Where did you see any 'explosives'? (N.B.: when this guy is part of the plot though, as it seems, when what we are shown is all true, and part of a terrorist cell, then it'd not be uncommon the explosives would be kept by (an)other person(s), higher up, explosives are much harder to get than what was found today, rather making him an accomplice than the main perpetrator(s), IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence C4 explosives are only available to the military. You can't make it. Seems unbelievable evidence to me. More evidence pls.stop trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) .. and right on cue, a positive story, with bells and whistles and everything is perfect again... but is it really?Coincidence, or luck (which is exactly what Somyot stated they needed last week) or just sterling police work behind the scenes? or a combination perhaps of all? You forgot merit, blessings, charms, fortune tellers and pig heads. Edited August 29, 2015 by Squeegee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence Wow, that guy was fluent in Thai. Strange that didn't write his list in his native language, like every other person would have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence C4 explosives are only available to the military. You can't make it. Seems unbelievable evidence to me. More evidence pls. No explosives to be seen on that 'evidence' picture, guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well they were under pressure to arrest somebody... anybody. Now they just have to plant and fabricate evidence. Case solved. Dont be so insulting to the dead Where in his post is he insulting the victims?I think you are more insulting than Reigntax as you don't even consider the injured. Shame on you for being assumptious and rude to all victims. Closing a case by using a scapegoat IS insulting to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence Wow, that guy was fluent in Thai. Strange that didn't write his list in his native language, like every other person would have done. Right ! This note is not wroten by a Turk : a Turk will not forget the "weird thing" under the "S" of "Ayse" (a girl name), to pronunce "SH" instead of "S" ! (And who is Ayse ?) What is this not ? Wroten by a Thai, for sure ! (look of the year : 2558 : Buddhist calendar!)... Can some people give some explanation and translation ? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Capture.JPGOr are they saying that if you read something about this vest don't believe it because it has nothing to do with this case? Don't have somebody around d me who can read Thai. Edited August 29, 2015 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well they were under pressure to arrest somebody... anybody. Now they just have to plant and fabricate evidence. Case solved. Dont be so insulting to the dead Where in his post is he insulting the victims?I think you are more insulting than Reigntax as you don't even consider the injured. Shame on you for being assumptious and rude to all victims. Closing a case by using a scapegoat IS insulting to the victims. Like it's never happened before Nicky has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence Evidence of what? I thought it was against forum rules to post things in Thai? Looks very neat, are you sure this isn't written by the Cops who found the gear? Could you possibly translate it for those of us who don't read Thai? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Well they were under pressure to arrest somebody... anybody. Now they just have to plant and fabricate evidence. Case solved. Dont be so insulting to the dead Where in his post is he insulting the victims?I think you are more insulting than Reigntax as you don't even consider the injured. Shame on you for being assumptious and rude to all victims. Closing a case by using a scapegoat IS insulting to the victims. Like it's never happened before Nicky has it? That's besides the point Fat H. We are talking about whether it would be insulting to the victims or not. Edited August 29, 2015 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isopax Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 If this is the guy/some of them, hats off to the police, wonder how they found him, but obviously they knew much more than portrayed in the media which is is a comfort, and even though theres alot of ranting about RTP, i have no doubt in my mind that to catch these people have been the mind of many police officers 24/7 since the attacks. If this is yet another terror attack with religious reasons ( rarely is anything but these days ) i hope the punishment for this guy will be something that prevents him to go to his imaginary heaven, ISIL was afraid of female snipers, so maybe let him get executed by a woman when he get the death penalty, or dig into the religion and found out exactly what can be done to prevent these jerks to think they will go to heaven when they perform stuff like this. Maybe this could start send a signal to these nutcases that we are fed up by their stoneage thinking as apparently the only thing they can relate to is their lame beliefs. Not a very nice thing to wish for other people but these people that did this to Thailand, of all people and places in the world, this action has been something that made me so furious & angry much much more than when we had an attack in my own country. It seems theres alot of damaging evidence or pointers that they are having someone who dont have good intentions and might very well be related to this attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howitzer Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The passport is 100% fake, the news outlets should stop using the term "Turkish" Its Istanbul, not Iştanbul And two Date of Expiry columns, the first one is supposed to be Date of Issue. what\s the difference between istanbul and the other istanbul with that weird thing below the s? The difference is these passports are of very poor quality, this probably means they are trafficking quality and only meant to fool the most basic of border checks, ID proof or basic use not the type to book airline tickets with. Cant go through airport security with passports like that but it would fool those at borders with no tech with guards that cant spell. I would imagine this guy is just a caretaker of some kind but if they dont find anyone else he will be taking the fall anyway. Imagine that you order a batch of false passports and that the name of your city - the main city of your country! - is not correctly wroten : will you accept it ? I guess a native Turkish peole will seen at first glance that "Istanbul" was not correctly wroten... It's so small that tiny thing below the u who can see it? Not many ppl even know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howitzer Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 11224589_891403037604089_1137428462180574463_n1.jpg Evidence Wow, that guy was fluent in Thai. Strange that didn't write his list in his native language, like every other person would have done. Right ! This note is not wroten by a Turk : a Turk will not forget the "weird thing" under the "S" of "Ayse" (a girl name), to pronunce "SH" instead of "S" ! (And who is Ayse ?) What is this not ? Wroten by a Thai, for sure ! (look of the year : 2558 : Buddhist calendar!)... Can some people give some explanation and translation ? Thanks! why not just spell her name as ayshe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covenant Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well done RTP, after unprecedented criticism, it looks like they have actually done a very good job. We all wanted this guy caught. Your are delusional . and the criticism is, has been and will continue, to be well deserved. As I say, unprecedented criticism, well done RTP for some good work today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Well they were under pressure to arrest somebody... anybody. Now they just have to plant and fabricate evidence. Case solved. Dont be so insulting to the dead Where in his post is he insulting the victims?I think you are more insulting than Reigntax as you don't even consider the injured. Shame on you for being assumptious and rude to all victims. Closing a case by using a scapegoat IS insulting to the victims.You mean like the RTP did in Koh Tao.? Similar situation, under pressure to find an answer, many false and misleading statements by authorities and suddenly they announce they have an arrest.He may not be the bomber but he will certainly be charged with it and the evidence, if allowed to be examined will be as flimsy and concocted as the KT circus. See, investigations are supposed to be based on collecting evidence and this evidence leads to a suspect, not first identify who you want the suspect to be and then collect or by other means, produce evidence to connect it to the scapegoat. Edited August 29, 2015 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 As I understand it from a previous announcement, the guy was taken away for interrogation by the military. I don't suppose there is anybody looking out for his well-being. I know - some of you don't give a damn. I this instance there does seem to be a lot of evidence, not just a gram or two of weed that fell out of a policeman's pocket... And although I am against torture and the death penalty, but as lives are at risk while these terrorists are at large I am happy to look the other way while he is taken off to a place where the military intelligence perfect their water boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Show me the bomber's motive to justify the arrest! Since when do you need a motive to make an arrest? Just a wild guess, could the possession of detonators and many fake passports justify an arrest?? Edited August 29, 2015 by Tywais One photo removed as not of this investigation and not even Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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