Briggsy Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 These Uighurs are just the nuts and bolts men, the logistics guys, the bomb planter. This is really a battle between military factions for control of the country and its resources. The huge profits from human trafficking is just one of the pots of gold and also one of the tools in the box to gain control of the main prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellacissa Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 One (of many) thing that has stood out throughout this entire episode has been the lack of evidence displayed in front of the media. This to me, is against regular routine, in that the majority of successful busts leading to recovered items are on display to the media sometimes it seems before they have even been indexed. A couple of photographs have been released and that is that. I would be interested in seeing the C4, TNT and other chemical substances that have been claimed, as well as physical sighting of the detonators, etc. At the other end of the table to the explosives of course....................... However, if doing so would impede further investigation, then carry on and get the job finished. Just seems 'out-of-the-norm', that's all. You wanted to see it all lined up on a table in front of him (all the seized evidence) and 20 cops mugging like jack-asses in the background, yes, it is strange this hasn''t yet happened, the cops do like their photo-ops. Have we had any finger pointing photos yet? No? They are clearly not ready to show their hand. An investigation is not complete until the fingers are pointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinjin Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The good part about being transferred to an "inactive" posts would be they can sit on their freckles all day. The not so good part for them is that they will probably be removed from any tea money distribution lists. I think you will find that being transferred to inactive positions is a pretext to being fired soon after. They get a hearing first which is why they are never fired straight away. It is the same as being suspended with pay in the west, onl;y difference is that they still have to report to workk in Thailand where in the west they are allowed to stay at home. Mostly true but here's another twist of these arrangements: - Just after the coup one very senior cop lives near me, very big house, was suddenly at home 24/7. - He had a private (non-police) staff of 11. His non-police staff used police vehicles to do their 'errands', mostly from his house. - Turns out he was ordered to not leave his house for any reason 24/7 and prohibited to have any form of contact with police or anybody, and prohibited to have / use any form of phone or radio owned by him or anybody. - His private staff now never see. - Now in jail, sentenced to 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Forget transfer sack fire dismiss You need a whole new force from good education not Isan cowboys set only to rob motorists and Prayuth you need to non privatize this cowboy show soon they will open discount shops for membership on traffic fine discounts Isann Cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The rest of the great Thai police force receive a 3 million baht reward. The good, the bad and the ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Good to see some steps to promote accountability. Really...they think a suspect may have gone through that border... Utter rubbish.If you read BP the guy they got in the apartment detailed how he came into Thailand via Vietnam-Laos-Cambodia and paid 18,000 to get in at this border point. But since you seem to know that's untrue, perhaps you could share with the rest of us? Edited September 1, 2015 by pmugghc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todlad Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability.Rubbish!Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? They are scapegoats. In this instance, I sympathise with the police that have been transferred. And the Immigration officers!!? Really...they think a suspect may have gone through that border... Utter rubbish. Another angry expert: where do you all live? Why do you think their job involved searching hundreds of thousands of homes? What a crass comment. Can you share with us what you know about their orders since you appear to be in the know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability.Rubbish!Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? Why don't you check the other newspaper? The commanders for the 2 regions had reported they HAD searched all houses and nothing was wrong. What's rubbish? Your posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If you're eager to get the latest news I'd recommend Wassana Nanuam, she's reporting on military matters for BP, she has excellent connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) to be transferred to inactive posts an no tea money, same as death as no way someone could live on the "real" salary of a local cop Point in fact, I have crossed into and out of thailand to laos and Cambodia with my own car many times NOT ONCE has anyone ever looked inside the car or opened the truck he could have saved $18,000 ONLY Malaysia has looked inside but never coming INTO Thailand Edited September 1, 2015 by phuketrichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmcleod Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Allowing the RTP to share in the reward money is counterproductive!! In the future they will be encouraged to sit on their hands ignoring their work until there is reward money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why are those incompetent officers ,,transferred,, they should have been charged and sacked,they are not worthy to be on the force they are a danger to the security of the country, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The good part about being transferred to an "inactive" posts would be they can sit on their freckles all day. The not so good part for them is that they will probably be removed from any tea money distribution lists. doesn't matter,they can get another job and still receive their salaries as police officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability. Rubbish! Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? They are scapegoats. In this instance, I sympathise with the police that have been transferred. And the Immigration officers!!? Really...they think a suspect may have gone through that border... Utter rubbish. Yeah , like looking for a needle in a hay stack, mostly anywhere the suspicious activities become suspected by the neighbours who dob them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability.Rubbish!Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? Why don't you check the other newspaper? The commanders for the 2 regions had reported they HAD searched all houses and nothing was wrong. What's rubbish? Your posts! I would suggest that searching all houses in an entire bangkok district takes quite a long time. Like weeks..... They checked the suspicious ones they knew of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Does this mean that after decades of ignoring requests from BKK Police Headquarters...that we are now actually going to be required to do our job and do actual police work? I did not sign up for this...I enjoy bogus checkpoint scams, raiding massage parlors looking for freebies, gambling, and drinking Thai whiskey while on duty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If the RTP officers took money to let the guy into Thailand who eventually planted the bomb then those officers are accomplices in the murder of 20 people! The only good transfer for them is a transfer to a prison holding cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Forget transfer sack fire dismiss You need a whole new force from good education not Isan cowboys set only to rob motorists and Prayuth you need to non privatize this cowboy show soon they will open discount shops for membership on traffic fine discounts Isann Cowboys Absolutely - Isann cowboys. The root of all evil, They are responsible for all the corruption, crime, and low dealing in this country. What's more they are the wrong colour, speak funny, and many suspect they vote fro the wrong people! Put them back to the serfs they were always meant to be! (except for the ones who clean our condos, drive our taxis, sweep our streets and man (woman?) our bars of course!) It's a good thing I'm in a jolly mood this evening, or I might have been tempted to suggest that you had acquired some "Thai racism" Edited September 1, 2015 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If the RTP officers took money to let the guy into Thailand who eventually planted the bomb then those officers are accomplices in the murder of 20 people! The only good transfer for them is a transfer to a prison holding cell. The victims relatives, could sue the R.T.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The good part about being transferred to an "inactive" posts would be they can sit on their freckles all day. The not so good part for them is that they will probably be removed from any tea money distribution lists. I think you will find that being transferred to inactive positions is a pretext to being fired soon after. They get a hearing first which is why they are never fired straight away. It is the same as being suspended with pay in the west, onl;y difference is that they still have to report to workk in Thailand where in the west they are allowed to stay at home. actually it is not possible for them to be fired without a royal declaration as their commissions come from the king. it would not be polite to ask the king to withdraw their commission so the inactive post is the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Any way you look at it, it's totally nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "In Bangkok, the officers were transferred for failing to follow an order from police central command to carry out searches of property and “suspicious foreigners” in the wake of the 17 Aug. attack. Responding to the order, police in Min Buri and Nong Chok districts had sent back all-clear reports, indicating no foreigners or bomb-making materials had been found." Were these officers sent specifically to the locations the bomb making materials were later found, and then reported those locations as being "all clear" ? Or are they being held responsible for not finding these specific locations? How practical is it to expect officers to inspect EVERY possible location in two entire districts? More details are needed. I am not convinced this is not just another " dog and pony show" to show the public how "serious" the police really are. If they did search the same properties and did not report the findings, they should be "hung" But if not??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "In Bangkok, the officers were transferred for failing to follow an order from police central command to carry out searches of property and “suspicious foreigners” in the wake of the 17 Aug. attack. Responding to the order, police in Min Buri and Nong Chok districts had sent back all-clear reports, indicating no foreigners or bomb-making materials had been found." Were these officers sent specifically to the locations the bomb making materials were later found, and then reported those locations as being "all clear" ? Or are they being held responsible for not finding these specific locations? How practical is it to expect officers to inspect EVERY possible location in two entire districts? More details are needed. I am not convinced this is not just another " dog and pony show" to show the public how "serious" the police really are. If they did search the same properties and did not report the findings, they should be "hung" But if not??? Which would of course beg the question, where do the police keep this enormous database of every specific dodgy foreigner and suspicious place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 What is an "inactive" post ? Gardening leave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So do they still get some of the reward money? Is it more likely they were transferred so they don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Forget transfer sack fire dismiss You need a whole new force from good education not Isan cowboys set only to rob motorists and Prayuth you need to non privatize this cowboy show soon they will open discount shops for membership on traffic fine discounts Isann Cowboys If you pay a livable wage and benefits, you will get educated responsible officers. When they are underpaid and required to supply their own equipment and supplies, they can not do it without the tea money. It is a system set up to fail set up to require corruption to survive. I do not blame the officers. Enforcing traffic laws and issuing citations with reasonable fines alone, would finance an honest police force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability. Rubbish! Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? They are scapegoats. In this instance, I sympathise with the police that have been transferred. And the Immigration officers!!? Really...they think a suspect may have gone through that border... Utter rubbish. The suspect allegedly told police he used that crossing, including paying 18,000 baht to get through with his dodgy passport. In which case the Immigration people will deserve what they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good to see some steps to promote accountability.Rubbish!Were they given a tip-off from a landlord? Were they expected to search how many hundred thousand homes? They are scapegoats. In this instance, I sympathise with the police that have been transferred. And the Immigration officers!!? Really...they think a suspect may have gone through that border... Utter rubbish. They were expected to do their job, not goof off and say we found nothing. And yes search as many hundred thousand houses as needed.The utter rubbish is in your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 As long as the practice to provide morons with inactive posts continues, this will be an "inactive country". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantFan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 It should have been easy to check the records that the landlords provided to immigration of any foreign renting a room? Yeah. In your dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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