Suspect in Bangkok bombing tells police he's 'guilty'

[Tanlic]

I see we are on the torture trail again

Seems like TV has the police in a panic as they couldn't wait to pull up the guys shirt and say "Look no bruises"

Someday common sense will prevail around here.........plastic bags over his head waterboarding

Of course they never tortured the guy. His DNA fingerprints and traces of explosive materials on his hands and clothes kind put him in a bit of a pickle.

They don't torture that type of criminal the buy him cookies and chocolate and tell him they want to help him if he helps them and whisper in his ear."you don't want to die do you?"

Make no mistake if they didn't have positive proof he was guilty and the old car battery had to come out to catch the others I'd be happy to supply the jump leads.

[shaurene]

Spare no punishment on him if he is guilty.

He deserves everything he gets.

Only its not going to be enough to account for the lives of the 20 dead people.

Terrorism is the most heinous crime I can imagine. It randomly targets innocent people.

I think the only law that might work to combat it, is to redirect the attack back on the terrorists families.

20 lives from the families of each of the terrorists should be forfeit. Wipe away blood lines. Terrorism is a disease and like any disease, its got to be stopped.

That way anyone who wants to protect their families must inform on anyone they suspect. And every terrorist action has an equal and obviously unjust punishment for the terrorists.

It sounds cruel, but no less cruel than the random people they kill.

With an attitude like that you are no better. Wipe the family's out, even their children who would not know what is going on. Shame on you.

[Tanlic]

Did he confess in a safe house?

Was a counselor present?

Do the have a viedeo?

Have they had a translator who cannot speak Turkish nor Thai?

[uptheos]

I seem to recall that two Burmese murder suspects confessed to crimes and subsequently withdrew these confessions as they were supposedly made only after torture.

He doesn't look stressed at all, torture usually has some impact.

He looks rather calm, considering.

[springheeled jack]

he has admitted his guilt after a week in custody could this be real or is it another fit up I wonder , the rtp are having problems pronouncing names, what next .

[phoenixdoglover]

The draft Thai Charter, which was just rejected by the NRC, says the following in Sections 36 and 37:

A torture, brutal act, or punishment by a cruel or inhumane means shall not be made...

The suspect or accused in a criminal case shall be presumed innocent.

No one shall, in criminal case [sic], be compelled to testify against himself or to confess guilt.

Many of the adjoining sections are filled with the rights enjoyed by Thai people.

Except in practice, they are not.

(yes, yes...the bombing suspect is not a Thai citizen. However, in most places, this is not grounds for forfeiting basic rights)

[DavisH]

In a civilised country with a proper justice system parading a suspect and asking the question of guilt in front of the media would all but lead to him being released for abuse of legal process and his rights. But this is Thailand and everything is approached as if they are part of a circus.

What can one expect from a country full of clowns?

[phantomfiddler]

Having been an employer in this country for well over 30 years, I have never had one who confessed to theft even when the documented proof was placed in front of them. I am sure the same goes for people who commit much more serious crimes, and the naivety of some of the posters here amazes me

[ChrisY1]

Thailand' scary justice system in full view............

[aripengu]

Spare no punishment on him if he is guilty.

He deserves everything he gets.

Only its not going to be enough to account for the lives of the 20 dead people.

Terrorism is the most heinous crime I can imagine. It randomly targets innocent people.

I think the only law that might work to combat it, is to redirect the attack back on the terrorists families.

20 lives from the families of each of the terrorists should be forfeit. Wipe away blood lines. Terrorism is a disease and like any disease, its got to be stopped.

That way anyone who wants to protect their families must inform on anyone they suspect. And every terrorist action has an equal and obviously unjust punishment for the terrorists.

It sounds cruel, but no less cruel than the random people they kill.

Stop taking whatever drug you are taking. Looks like you have the mind of a terrorist as well.

[Classic Ray]

Much as I hate bombings due to the randomness of those injured or killed, they are an effective terrorist tactic, especially nowadays where the bombers are sometimes willing to sacrifice even their own lives to support their cause.

And before we condemn all these people as "terrorists", we should remember as often quoted by and about the Irish Republican Army (IRA) during their campaign of civil disobedience to British Government rule, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".

You still end up dead, but maybe aren't so bitter about those who killed you!

Seriously, Nelson Mandela of South Africa, Menachem Begin of Israel and Jomo Kenyatta of Kenya were all condemned as terrorists for fighting regimes (2 out of 3 British) that they considered oppressive. They all went on to lead their countries.

[NovaBlue05]

This calls for another round of reward money!

[WhizBang]

Spare no punishment on him if he is guilty.

He deserves everything he gets.

Only its not going to be enough to account for the lives of the 20 dead people.

Terrorism is the most heinous crime I can imagine. It randomly targets innocent people.

I think the only law that might work to combat it, is to redirect the attack back on the terrorists families.

20 lives from the families of each of the terrorists should be forfeit. Wipe away blood lines. Terrorism is a disease and like any disease, its got to be stopped.

That way anyone who wants to protect their families must inform on anyone they suspect. And every terrorist action has an equal and obviously unjust punishment for the terrorists.

It sounds cruel, but no less cruel than the random people they kill.

Shut your mouth. You are as bad, if not worse, than any terrorist.

[WhizBang]

Much as I hate bombings due to the randomness of those injured or killed, they are an effective terrorist tactic, especially nowadays where the bombers are sometimes willing to sacrifice even their own lives to support their cause.

And before we condemn all these people as "terrorists", we should remember as often quoted by and about the Irish Republican Army (IRA) during their campaign of civil disobedience to British Government rule, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".

You still end up dead, but maybe aren't so bitter about those who killed you!

Seriously, Nelson Mandela of South Africa, Menachem Begin of Israel and Jomo Kenyatta of Kenya were all condemned as terrorists for fighting regimes (2 out of 3 British) that they considered oppressive. They all went on to lead their countries.

No, a terrorist is a terrorist. Anyone who targets innocent people is a terrorist, regardless of the so called cause.

[pedro01]

I seem to recall that two Burmese murder suspects confessed to crimes and subsequently withdrew these confessions as they were supposedly made only after torture.

He doesn't look stressed at all, torture usually has some impact.

He looks rather calm, considering.

From what I read the deal is that they will not send him back to China if he confesses.

You can only imagine what the Chinese would do to him on his return. Life in a Thai prison is probably his best option.

[pedro01]

Having been an employer in this country for well over 30 years, I have never had one who confessed to theft even when the documented proof was placed in front of them. I am sure the same goes for people who commit much more serious crimes, and the naivety of some of the posters here amazes me

A confession here usually results in the sentence being halved.

In the face of overwhelming evidence, it is the logical choice, especially a guilty verdict without a confession would have most likely resulted in the death penalty.

The guy is most likely cutting a deal here.

[Dogmatix]

It is unclear whether Yusufu’s confession will be usable in the court, as he has yet to receive legal representation.

That didn't stop prosecutors from using the unlawyered confessions extracted from the two defendants in the Koh Tao murder trial, even though they had already recanted.

[Dogmatix]

Did he confess in a safe house?

Was a counselor present?

Do the have a viedeo?

Have they had a translator who cannot speak Turkish nor Thai?

Baldy was great in that clip. "Do you understand the charge? (showing him a piece of paper in Thai which he obviously can't understand.) What do you confess? Guilty or not guilty?" The suspect mutters something inaudible. Baldy declares in Thai that he's confessed.

[petedk]

People need to wake up the world is at war with islam, it's kill or be killed, i'm talking to all those ps lefty libs out there.

I don't think this is anything to do with Islam.

Anyway, only today has the British primeminister come under attack for killing two British terrorists in a drone attack.

[anon467367354]

who is he working for?

Who wants bombs going off in Bangkok?

[JAG]

So he was interrogated by the police in the absence of a lawyer?

I guess as soon as he gets a lawyer he will retract the confession. Sounds familiar to me.

That happens everywhere, there are many occasions when the lawyers of the accused are not present during questioning, nothing unusual.

Do you think its fair to the suspect to allow interrogation without a lawyer present?

In a language he may not fully understand too... confessions are typed in Thai language only so they could write anything and have him sign it.... Stupid really as it gives him a defence to use later on

I believe he is to be tried in a military court, so having a defence won't matter much|!

[TheFishman1]

So do they have the guy with the yellow shirt that was on the CCTV or not yet??

[Richard Hall]

It is unclear whether Yusufu’s confession will be usable in the court, as he has yet to receive legal representation.

That didn't stop prosecutors from using the unlawyered confessions extracted from the two defendants in the Koh Tao murder trial, even though they had already recanted.

They surely recanted because their lawyers certainly advised them to do so but why should prosceutors and the court believe them?

They plead not guilty which does not necessarily mean they actually are. With or without unlawyered confessions.

Lawyers will only advise to confess if there is absolutely no other way and hence try now to reduce the sentence. The main objective will certainly always be to get their clients out unpunished and may it be on basis of formality flaws.

[toooa]

Nice dress up costumes... I'd like to see 2 blokes in Hawaiian shirts and shades and smoking Havana's escort him in.... I wonder if all the young coppers had to rock, scissor, paper to see who got to dress up in the black kit? Oh the drama.... it's not as if old mate is going anywhere is it? Really...the Asians love it...don't they? Everybody in costumes...hurrah!

Any suggestions from the peanut gallery? Who (or What) would you most like to see escort the prisoner in?

[KIWIBATCH]

..a couple of "if's"...and a "Thailand needs be very very careful from now on"...

if..... he is in fact the culprit..(made the bomb).....(helped plant or planted the bomb)...

if......it was in retaliation for the purging of the Uighurs out of Thailand to China

"Thailand needs to be very very very careful from now on"...as this arrest will no doubt only spur on his fellow "terrorist" friends...who without doubt are quietly watching the developments in Thailand and "if" they get incensed enough...we could see a repeat of the horrible Erewan tragedy...

That's only "if"........

If I were the RTP/Army I absolutely would not be conducting any "re-enactment" (worldwide press coverage would follow for sure)...instead just keep matters low key and simply get on with their investigative work...piecing it all together...

[metisdead]

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[tomacht8]

Today:

….. adding that the suspect was also instructed to put the bomb inside a backpack and place it under a bench along the Phadung Krung Kasem Canal on August 17.

"Mieraili has never seen the man in the yellow T-shirt in person," the source added.

Yesterday:

….. He was then ordered to carry a backpack with a bomb to leave it under a bench on a bank of Phadung Krungkasem Canal near Hua Lampong Railway station. Mieraili said the man in yellow shirt came to switch his backpack with the one with the bomb. He said he did not meet the man in yellow in person.

Perhaps the accuracy of the statements has been lost in the translation.

But that sounds implausible.
How they have exchanged the backpacks?
He was the first on the park bench?
Put his bomb under the bench and run away?

Let his bomb unattended near Hua Lamphong, were daily 1000s of people running around?

And how long it takes to take back the other backpack?

Sounds as he covers the bomber.

Maybe a good friend or his younger brother?

What is the reason?
What is the motive, that they can be controlled like puppets via Whatsapp of this Izaan man?

Religious fanatics? A vendetta? Or someone extort them to lay the bombs?

Edited September 8, 2015 by tomacht8

[speedtripler]

Today:

.. adding that the suspect was also instructed to put the bomb inside a backpack and place it under a bench along the Phadung Krung Kasem Canal on August 17.

"Mieraili has never seen the man in the yellow T-shirt in person," the source added.

Yesterday:

.. He was then ordered to carry a backpack with a bomb to leave it under a bench on a bank of Phadung Krungkasem Canal near Hua Lampong Railway station. Mieraili said the man in yellow shirt came to switch his backpack with the one with the bomb. He said he did not meet the man in yellow in person.

Perhaps the accuracy of the statements has been lost in the translation.

But that sounds implausible.

How they have exchanged the backpacks?

He was the first on the park bench?

Put his bomb under the bench and run away?

Let his bomb unattended near Hua Lamphong, were daily in 1000 of people running around?

And how long it takes to take back the other backpack?

Sounds as he covers the bomber.

Maybe a good friend or his younger brother?

What is the reason?

What is the motive, that they can be controlled like puppets via Whatsapp of a Chinese man?

Religious fanatics? A vendetta? Or someone extort them to lay the bombs?

Maybe his family are all still at risk?

[Madaussie]

For all the Hoo Haa about torture the Americans have admitted using Don Muang for their secret rendition flights to torture people in a country other than their own so if the Thai's do it then they are just following the example set by the USA. Bit 2 faced for people to come out slating the Thai's I think.

And they don't care either. They don't care in the Koh Tao trial and they don't care on this case what anyone thinks. Anyone who hoped they would change is misguided. IMHO.

And who can blame them. If had found his finger prints on the items of the bomb I wouldn't mind plugging his genitals into the mains socket to find out his co workers are.

[ericthai]

its not him! far too tall, stand him exactly where other guy and overlay CCTV image, I doubt he will be the same height.

do you just read headlines and look at pictures?? Read the article, it says he assisted with handling the bomb, not of being the bomber.