Thai ICT website under attack from netizens

[DKUNPUTAF713]

Without using any proxy, I am able to log on to Daily Mail

and the Andrew Drummond sites!

[MaxLee]

ICT, CAT Telecom websites collapse after Thai Internet users joining force in DDoS attack

Good luck with that, young hackers, and the other Generation Y Thai Netizens,..... IF this regime DARES to make a MASS Attitude adjustment nationwide......

[connda]

That's just pouring gas on the fire. Want to give the government a better reason to implement the Firewall. Go on a hacking spree. Technically intelligent hackers who are as ignorant as a box of rocks regarding governmental reactions to perceived 'Threats', especially when you hand them an actual threat on a platter.

[bartender100]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34409343

Analysis: Jonathan Head, BBC News, Bangkok

That this decision, made at a cabinet meeting on 30 June, was kept secret has caused alarm. It only became public when the government public relations department mentioned it on its own website last month.

So the subsequent statement by Minister for Information Uttama Savanayana that the decision was not yet final, and that the single gateway was only intended to reduce the cost of internet access, was met with disbelief, and then the shutdown of government websites.

Thai netizens insist this is not an attack, but a form of civil disobedience. They also argue that the government's plans make a mockery of its stated ambition for Thailand to become a digital hub for the region.

The military may still push ahead with its firewall, whatever the opposition. The need for control, as it confronts the task of managing a sensitive royal succession, will probably trump any concerns it may have for the digital economy.

[connda]

An attack on a govt website albeit denied naturally, so will it provoke an angry reaction from on high ?

In a few days, the denial will be reversed and used as a reason for more control.

I'll bet a bottle of Hong Thong that the attack will be admitted, and cited as an example of a breach of the country's security, and thus more virtual policing needs to be in place.

Any takers?

555 Smack on target imho.

[Seastallion]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34409343

Analysis: Jonathan Head, BBC News, Bangkok

That this decision, made at a cabinet meeting on 30 June, was kept secret has caused alarm. It only became public when the government public relations department mentioned it on its own website last month.

So the subsequent statement by Minister for Information Uttama Savanayana that the decision was not yet final, and that the single gateway was only intended to reduce the cost of internet access, was met with disbelief, and then the shutdown of government websites.

Thai netizens insist this is not an attack, but a form of civil disobedience. They also argue that the government's plans make a mockery of its stated ambition for Thailand to become a digital hub for the region.

The military may still push ahead with its firewall, whatever the opposition. The need for control, as it confronts the task of managing a sensitive royal succession, will probably trump any concerns it may have for the digital economy.

Can you say that last sentence again? I don't think I read right.

[Basil B]

Hate to think of the chaos if the Chinese ever became as imaginative as the Thai's...

[connda]

ICT solves 'DDoS' attack by using US proxy

Asina Pornwasin

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- A source in IT industry unveiled that after the ICT Ministry's website faced DDoS attack by angry Internet useres, the ministry has found a way to handle overwhelming traffic.

The source said it was founded that the domain name system (DNS) of ICT Ministry's website was changed to point to CloudFlare, US company that provides a content delivery network and distributed domain name server services, at IP 104.20.29.248.

DNS pointed at CloudFlare in order to filter traffics before send the traffics back to the MICT's website.

"This is called reverse proxy technique," said the source.

With this technique, it can help reduce numbers of [fake] traffic to the website. Fake traffic means the frequent requests from the same IP address in a shot period of time.

CloudFlare acts as a reverse proxy for [its customer] site that is able to filter and analyze traffic coming to [its customer] site. In addition to analyzing and filtering of traffic, CloudFlare also offers optional security features that can help mitigate attacks and content theft.

As a result, at around 1:28 am on October 1, some people can access MICT website, but some cannot.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/ICT-solves-DDoS-attack-by-using-US-proxy-30269942.html

-- The Nation 2015-10-01

Outsourced to the US. Doesn't that speak volumes about Thailand IT security posture and capabilities. That's gotta be an NSA wet-dream come true. lol

NAS Director Adm. Michael S. Rogers: "ICT Thailand is diverting their entire pipe to CloudFlare, through our gateways??? Have the network boyz turn on 'The Hoover' and lets get that traffic routed to indefinite storage. Christmas has come early! Ask the POTUS if he wants to do a little 'pivoting'."

Edited October 1, 2015 by connda

[BeefSlapper]

it will be the same with single gate, its just easy to target it and DDOS it it will not work

[connda]

"and press the F5 key on the keyboard for refresh."

Apparently the netizens are not that clued in. Some browsers have an auto refresh feature that can be set to do that every n seconds.

Actually you'd want to press CTRL + F5. That forces a "hard refresh" meaning there is no look to the cache for things like images and it downloads everything fresh. This puts the most load on the server.

Cheers.

ICT: "Let's see now, we're getting multiple refresh packets from an IP that resolves to some subscriber of Thai Visa named NeverSure. Have security contact the ISP and find out where the source computer is located, then send to cops to have a visit."

[EnglishJohn]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34409343

Analysis: Jonathan Head, BBC News, Bangkok

That this decision, made at a cabinet meeting on 30 June, was kept secret has caused alarm. It only became public when the government public relations department mentioned it on its own website last month.

So the subsequent statement by Minister for Information Uttama Savanayana that the decision was not yet final, and that the single gateway was only intended to reduce the cost of internet access, was met with disbelief, and then the shutdown of government websites.

Thai netizens insist this is not an attack, but a form of civil disobedience. They also argue that the government's plans make a mockery of its stated ambition for Thailand to become a digital hub for the region.

The military may still push ahead with its firewall, whatever the opposition. The need for control, as it confronts the task of managing a sensitive royal succession, will probably trump any concerns it may have for the digital economy.

Jonathan Head has a massive chip on his shoulder against the royalist side of Thailand - he was up for les majeste himself a few years back. He should never have been allowed to come back and report in Thailand, he is tainted goods.

I guess nobody else wanted the job.

I have a feeling that not many people understand what might happen during the 'last sentence' part. A certain somebody has always had his eye on the top-spot but was not able to get close because he knows the people love the current King so much.

[baboon]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34409343

Analysis: Jonathan Head, BBC News, Bangkok

That this decision, made at a cabinet meeting on 30 June, was kept secret has caused alarm. It only became public when the government public relations department mentioned it on its own website last month.

So the subsequent statement by Minister for Information Uttama Savanayana that the decision was not yet final, and that the single gateway was only intended to reduce the cost of internet access, was met with disbelief, and then the shutdown of government websites.

Thai netizens insist this is not an attack, but a form of civil disobedience. They also argue that the government's plans make a mockery of its stated ambition for Thailand to become a digital hub for the region.

The military may still push ahead with its firewall, whatever the opposition. The need for control, as it confronts the task of managing a sensitive royal succession, will probably trump any concerns it may have for the digital economy.

Jonathan Head has a massive chip on his shoulder against the royalist side of Thailand - he was up for les majeste himself a few years back. He should never have been allowed to come back and report in Thailand, he is tainted goods.

I guess nobody else wanted the job.

Tell you what, since you hate hypocrites and idiots so much, and seeing as you have the definitive grasp on Thai politics, why don't you apply for the job. With your integrity and encyclopedic knowledge of Thailand, I am sure they will jump at the chance to get you on board...

[FredNL]

Or pay the outstanding invoice over 2014 & 2015, it might be a solution !!!

Edited October 1, 2015 by FredNL

[torpedo1970]

An attack on a govt website albeit denied naturally, so will it provoke an angry reaction from on high ?

In a few days, the denial will be reversed and used as a reason for more control.

I'll bet a bottle of Hong Thong that the attack will be admitted, and cited as an example of a breach of the country's security, and thus more virtual policing needs to be in place.

Any takers?

Not without loosing face, since he already informed us that there was no attack?

Or was that us, silly civilians that misunderstood....??

Thainess

[freedom4life]

This is a response to your attempt at a big-brother state...We don't want it, got it? We don't want your biometrics and most of all, we don't want your ASEAN!

[easybullet3]

its a shame they just wrote a simple: "404, this website has been erased" !

they cou,ld have put something more exact and stated their reasons!!

every web developer has a back-up, so as soon as it was noticed (by the government) it would be re-loaded and back on line (and passwords changed) and added security.

so really,, the web-hackers (who probably spent quite a few dozen hours on this) really didnt declare much of a message.

[phoenixdoglover]

This was more than DOS. Somebody hacked the sites and erased files.

I'm guessing the ICT minister's butt is hanging way out in the breeze right now.

This is most unfortunate. Scapegoats in 3...2...1...

Edited October 1, 2015 by phoenixdoglover

[Loptr]

I would make a comment about the capabilities of Thai IT engineers, but it would just be deleted as Thai Bashing... Just let my non-statement statement speak for itself...

[empireboy]

[gandalf12]

"and press the F5 key on the keyboard for refresh."

Apparently the netizens are not that clued in. Some browsers have an auto refresh feature that can be set to do that every n seconds.

That wouldnt overcome a DOS attack

[gandalf12]

I would make a comment about the capabilities of Thai IT engineers, but it would just be deleted as Thai Bashing... Just let my non-statement statement speak for itself...

I disagree with you. There are none I have met that qualify as Engineers. But otherwise you are spot on

[Shiver]

Even a rookie Network specialist would laugh at the proposal to put a distributed system through a single pipe. What's the point of calling it distributed if there is a single point of failure with no failover mechanism? That is what the internet was designed to avoid (DARPA).

Edited October 1, 2015 by Shiver

[gandalf12]

Even a rookie Network specialist would laugh at the proposal to put a distributed system through a single pipe. What's the point of calling it distributed if there is a single point of failure with no failover mechanism? That is what the internet was designed to avoid (DARPA).

No body who has even the slightest knowledge of networks as you say would consider a single gateway. It is just crazy to even think about it

[quandow]

That's just pouring gas on the fire. Want to give the government a better reason to implement the Firewall. Go on a hacking spree. Technically intelligent hackers who are as ignorant as a box of rocks regarding governmental reactions to perceived 'Threats', especially when you hand them an actual threat on a platter.

GAWD yes. Since when did ANY Thai government official get boxed in and change their minds when confronted/insulted by someone they believe beneath them? The government had ALREADY acquiesced when business owners united to say, "No." These attacks are now putting Thai officials in a horrible position, they already gave up but now have been slapped in the face and, I'm sure, feel they must retaliate. I'm sure the "nuts and bolts" guys sighed in relief when they heard this unwise plan was to die on the vine. Now, I bet their anuses are puckering, anticipating that the Great Firewall may come back with a vengeance.

[englishoak]

They have mistaken the internet community for simple stupid Thai farmers, its a lot bigger than they can possibly imagine and a lot more willing to fight back. They just poked the netbear and Thailand aint China.

The Junta will scrap this idea fast if they know whats good for them.

[Gandtee]

Without using any proxy, I am able to log on to Daily Mail

and the Andrew Drummond sites!

How??

[hawker9000]

I wonder if what's really going on here is dissatisfaction with the existing "controls" implemented via the service providers. Their supposed cooperation and compliance aren't measuring up, and this is all a "we'll show you!" to achieve something some considered "required" all along. ...IOW, all the result of the usual inter-agency playground squabbling.

Edited October 1, 2015 by hawker9000

[Kru Baa]

Well, all the Thais want to do these days, especially the young Thais, is play games, chat and post selfies all day. You can't take the internet away from them now or you will have a real revolution on your hands. This silly old man in charge now is so out of touch, he wants to take the country back into the past, but there is just no going back. This generation of Thais know more about the world than ever. You just can't keep the country in the dark forever.

[Kru Baa]

They have mistaken the internet community for simple stupid Thai farmers, its a lot bigger than they can possibly imagine and a lot more willing to fight back. They just poked the netbear and Thailand aint China.

The Junta will scrap this idea fast if they know whats good for them.

Yeah, it's a lot bigger than they can possibly imagine but, so are most things within the frame of reality. Since when have they ever known what is good for them, or the country for that matter?

[jerojero]

Yes, leave damaging the State to the current government... They are proving excellent at it.