Thai police and local bodies 'the sources of most complaints'

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Police and local bodies 'the sources of most complaints'
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Police and local administrative bodies are still the agencies that attract the most public complaints, Auditor-General Sriracha Charoenpanit said yesterday in his review of his agency's achievements in 2015 fiscal year.

Sriracha said that from October last year until September 31, the agency received 2,906 complaints, 1,256 of which were resolved and 1,650 ongoing.

Speaking at the civil service complex on Chaeng Wattana Road, he said the agency would soon propose a policy framework for education reform and 14 related law drafts to the Education Minister.

He said a South Korean-style model for educational personnel management was being proposed to push education reform forward.

Sriracha also launched a mobile complaint unit where citizens can lodge complaints. The truck will go on its first mission to Nakhon Phanom province tomorrow and on Thursday.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Police-and-local-bodies-the-sources-of-most-compla-30270725.html


-- The Nation 2015-10-13

[arthurboy]

Education reform South Korean style. Er?

Where did that latest idea spring from, and why is it in this article on the Auditor General's local authority and police complaints report?

[selftaopath]

Yea right! Complain? To Whom? And will the listening body protect the individual(s) who complain? Oh please.... Thailand and Thai people are not know for consistency or follow through. But they are know for "getting even."

[hawker9000]

Do what the BKK taxi overseers did. Concoct a "survey" with a 71% "approval" rate, and then give them all a raise. Done. Sorted. The rest of the world will of course know better, but who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

[Ulic]

Complain all you want if it makes you feel better, but don't expect any changes.

[ginjag]

No one is surprised about the police getting most complaints about them.

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order------( could not stop the reds from occupying BKK-------easy to stop the convoys moving south from ISSAN )

It is widely Known and documented about their involvement in BLIND eye activities with illegal business,

Why is the PM not stopping this, maybe it is on a too big scale to make inroads quickly. Most Thais are aware but always afraid to complain to anyone with higher authority----tradition---culture---teaching.

[phycokiller]

No one is surprised about the police getting most complaints about them.

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order------( could not stop the reds from occupying BKK-------easy to stop the convoys moving south from ISSAN )

It is widely Known and documented about their involvement in BLIND eye activities with illegal business,

Why is the PM not stopping this, maybe it is on a too big scale to make inroads quickly. Most Thais are aware but always afraid to complain to anyone with higher authority----tradition---culture---teaching.

I think historically monarchys dont have police, they have tax collectors. Im sure the pretense in Thailand that the police are police and democracy is democracy are only for the outside world

[dcpo]

If they want a better police force they need to pay the rank and file police better.

[GeckosDiving]

If they want a better police force they need to pay the rank and file police better.

Paying them more will just give them more money, they would still carry on with their same old practice of corruption. How about charging them for crimes they commit, thrown in jail and FIRERD and can never be a policemen anywhere ever again, Until that happens nothing will ever change and the corruption will carry on

[tajtom]

What a huge suprise this is NOT

[Benmart]

A system where public servants prey on the weakness of those it serves, is worthy of being eliminated. Singapore can be used as a model.

[waldroj]

Equates to 11 complaints per 5-day week, and you've only resolved 43% of them - that's quite an achievement!

I think you're going to need more than one truck once the MCU starts rollin'.

[selftaopath]

If they want a better police force they need to pay the rank and file police better.

Can you tell me/us what the starting salary of a policeman/woman is? How about advancement e.g. time in service/promotion etc.? What might be their educational background etc. in relation to a factory workers salary? I often hear a/b low salaries of police/teachers but would LOVE to see the facts.

Thanks in advance.

[ehw200]

must pay them more money so they have something to lose when caught dirty and fired

it will make them think twice about dipping into the cookie jar

it is my understanding (right or wrong) that they are so underpaid that losing the job is of no consequence

[Somtamnication]

Hope they didn't spend millions on this study.

[ClutchClark]

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order...

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Wow, and yet look at how many farang live in this country with substantially more wealth than the majority of Thais and yet they are never the victim of crime.

Especially when so many of those very same farang spend a good part of their time on the sidewalks drunk and in poor shape to defend themselves. They would even be victims in the countries they come from.

If that is not the result of the BIB then what?

The BIB are far from perfect BUT for a farang to say the BIB arent doing their jobs is laughable.

Also, can you provide a copy of the job description? I have not seen one.

Cheers

[hawker9000]

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order...

.

Wow, and yet look at how many farang live in this country with substantially more wealth than the majority of Thais and yet they are never the victim of crime.

Especially when so many of those very same farang spend a good part of their time on the sidewalks drunk and in poor shape to defend themselves. They would even be victims in the countries they come from.

If that is not the result of the BIB then what?

The BIB are far from perfect BUT for a farang to say the BIB arent doing their jobs is laughable.

Also, can you provide a copy of the job description? I have not seen one.

Cheers

Laugh until your sides split. No. They're not doing their jobs and among the most notably corrupt law enforcement organizations on the planet.

[Vandadavid]

Reforms Drafts more time for elections

So far there has been 0 change to any police operations and it's a sign.

I not need talk

[ClutchClark]

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order...

.

Wow, and yet look at how many farang live in this country with substantially more wealth than the majority of Thais and yet they are never the victim of crime.

Especially when so many of those very same farang spend a good part of their time on the sidewalks drunk and in poor shape to defend themselves. They would even be victims in the countries they come from.

If that is not the result of the BIB then what?

The BIB are far from perfect BUT for a farang to say the BIB arent doing their jobs is laughable.

Also, can you provide a copy of the job description? I have not seen one.

Cheers

Laugh until your sides split. No. They're not doing their jobs and among the most notably corrupt law enforcement organizations on the planet.

Most certainly they are corrupt; however, that does not mean they are not doing their jobs.

I have been to many a destination where far more crime exists than in Thailand and many places where a drunk farang would quickly become a victim of assault and theft. You don't think the safety that farangs here has anything to do with the BIB? Wow.

Corruption and good police work are not mutually exclusive.

[slapout]

Sirachi neglected to mention the ""Agency"" numbers were sorted by importance by the RTP and counted by the '' public service '' groups. This gave him confidence that the problem ?? is on the way to the correction group to acted upon.

[hawker9000]

Until they do as their job description says it will never change.

Most see them as a money collecting AGENCY in general. NOT protecting the people keeping law and order...

.

Wow, and yet look at how many farang live in this country with substantially more wealth than the majority of Thais and yet they are never the victim of crime.

Especially when so many of those very same farang spend a good part of their time on the sidewalks drunk and in poor shape to defend themselves. They would even be victims in the countries they come from.

If that is not the result of the BIB then what?

The BIB are far from perfect BUT for a farang to say the BIB arent doing their jobs is laughable.

Also, can you provide a copy of the job description? I have not seen one.

Cheers

Laugh until your sides split. No. They're not doing their jobs and among the most notably corrupt law enforcement organizations on the planet.

Most certainly they are corrupt; however, that does not mean they are not doing their jobs.

I have been to many a destination where far more crime exists than in Thailand and many places where a drunk farang would quickly become a victim of assault and theft. You don't think the safety that farangs here has anything to do with the BIB? Wow.

Corruption and good police work are not mutually exclusive.

Yeah, actually they pretty much are. And were I to find myself in trouble in Thailand, I would seek police assistance only as the very last resort and in the most dire of circumstances. On a daily basis, I give them a wide berth and assume as much responsibility for my personal well-being as I possibly can.

And I DON'T consider farangs all that "safe" here, ESP drunk ones stumbling around by themselves late at night.

Wow indeed.

[ClutchClark]

Most certainly they are corrupt; however, that does not mean they are not doing their jobs.

I have been to many a destination where far more crime exists than in Thailand and many places where a drunk farang would quickly become a victim of assault and theft. You don't think the safety that farangs here has anything to do with the BIB? Wow.

Corruption and good police work are not mutually exclusive.

Yeah, actually they pretty much are. And were I to find myself in trouble in Thailand, I would seek police assistance only as the very last resort and in the most dire of circumstances. On a daily basis, I give them a wide berth and assume as much responsibility for my personal well-being as I possibly can.

And I DON'T consider farangs all that "safe" here.

Why do you think they are mutually exclusive? Sorry but you really need to support your argument and hopefully your experience in Law Enforcement.

As for farangs not being safe, can you provide some examples ? I have never spoken with a farang who has been a victim of a crime here and those few instances I read here on TV always show the perp having been apprehended.

Not trying to be a wiseguy, I am generslly interested in crimes agsinst farangs.

Thanks