Austria to build fence along parts of border with Slovenia

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Austria to build fence along parts of border with Slovenia
By GEORGE JAHN

VIENNA (AP) — Austria, a strong critic of fences built to cope with Europe's migrant influx, on Wednesday announced it is joining other nations that have either already erected border barriers or are planning to do so.

Austrian Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner insisted the move was aimed solely at bringing order to the unrelenting influx of people entering the country, telling parliament there were no plans "to build a fence around Austria."

Still the project is a major shift for the country, which has preached the sanctity of unimpeded internal EU borders since the migrant crisis intensified earlier this year, and Mikl-Leitner herself used the world "fence" in earlier comments announcing construction plans at the border.

It is likely to run into domestic and international criticism for the signal it sends to other nations struggling to cope with tens of thousands of desperate people moving though their nations. And it could ignite a chain reaction along the land route in Eastern Europe used by those seeking a better life in prosperous European Union countries.

Slovenia, the main entry point into Austria, also said it was ready to build a fence, while Hungary has been championing the success of its razor-wire border fences with Serbia and Croatia and plans another one with Romania.

Greece already erected a barbed wire fence three years ago on a section of its border with Turkey not separated by a river. Bulgaria also has fenced off parts of its boundary to Turkey, while some Baltic states plan to erect fences on border segments with Russia.

But all of these existing or planned fences are either on outer EU borders or between two EU countries where one is not yet part of the Schengen Agreement meant to ensure the free movement of persons.

The Austria-Slovenia border is part of the agreement, however, and any barriers erected on it would be closely watched for possible violations.

Seeking to defuse the controversy, Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann refused to characterize the planned measures as a fence, repeatedly avoiding the word in an evening television news interview despite being reminded that it was used by his interior minister.

Germany, the country of choice for many fleeing regions torn by war and hardship, also signaled its intention to reduce its load of asylum-seekers. Syrian citizens are mostly being accepted, but Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said many of the Afghans pouring into the country will likely be sent home.

"People who come to us as refugees from Afghanistan cannot all expect to be able to stay in Germany," he said, adding that Afghans will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

In Austria, Mikl-Leitner told parliament that the construction of "technical barriers" would begin after about 10 days of planning but gave no exact date for the start of the project.

Speaking to state broadcaster ORF, Mikl-Leitner cited the need for a fence to maintain public order while Defense Minister Gerald Klug said containers or railings could be set up to "control the refugees in an orderly way."

Since Hungary sealed its borders with Serbia and Croatia on Sept. 15 and Oct. 17, thousands of refugees have been flowing into Slovenia daily. From there, they go to Austria with many continuing on to Germany.

Slovenian officials, who say their small nation cannot cope with the influx, have warned for days they would take action if Austria or Germany tried to close off their borders.

Slovenian Prime Minister Miro Cerar firmed up those plans Wednesday.

"If necessary, we are ready to put up the fence immediately" if a weekend plan by EU and Balkan leaders fails to stem the migrant surge, he said.

The usually excellent relations between Germany and Austria have been strained in recent days, with Germany accusing Austria on Wednesday of dropping asylum-seekers near their border after dark without warning.

Mikl-Leitner acknowledged a possible effect on migrants in Slovenia if Austria built a border barrier — a situation she said Austria already is struggling to deal with "because Germany is taking too few."

"People are marching toward Germany because they feel they are invited there," she said, alluding to perceptions that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has suggested all who have a right to asylum are welcome.

Merkel has said European countries have a duty to protect those who have a right to shelter, but also that all countries must share the burden. About 577,000 people seeking asylum came to Germany from January to the end of September this year, 164,000 of them in September alone, authorities say.

De Maiziere, Mikl-Leitner's German counterpart, said it was Austria's fault that "refugees are driven to certain points without warning at the fall of darkness."

"Austria's behavior in recent days was out of line," he said.

German police have sought to keep the number of people crossing the border to 50 per hour at each crossing, according to Bavarian authorities.

In recent days, new legislation has come into force in Germany that is aimed at making it easier to send home people who don't qualify for asylum — a measure aimed primarily at citizens of Balkan nations such as Albania and Kosovo.

On Afghanistan, de Maiziere argued that Germany and other western nations have poured development aid into the country as well as sending troops and police to help train security forces there. He says Afghanistan's government agrees with Berlin that citizens should stay and help rebuild the country.
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Geir Moulson in Berlin, Ali Zerdin in Ljubljana, Slovenia, and Jovana Gec and Dusan Stojanovic in Belgrade, Serbia, contributed to this report.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-10-29

[Expat1]

Step 1: Take refugees give them shelter and food.

Step 2: Take them to the sea and put up camps for them.

Step 3: Make REALLY big barges and bring them to the beach

Step 4: Drag refugees on to barges.

Step 5: Tow all barges to sea.

Step 6: Now decide what to do with them and where to put them (I leave this to your imagination and conscience)

When they see that there is a united front and you are serious they will stay at home and fight for themselves and their neighbours.

[slipperylobster]

Well..thats the future of the world..isn't it?

America has long been a melting pot of races....now Europe.

Soon there will no need to learn to spell Caucasian. In a borderless world, we would...very quickly, become historical creatures. The age of the "Caucasians"....

Not such a bad thing...just find it fun.

Edited October 29, 2015 by slipperylobster

[BuaBS]

And the lucky Austrians are arming themselves , a right that has been taken from the majority of europeans .

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-28/austria-runs-out-long-guns-europeans-scramble-protection-against-islamic-invasion

[arjunadawn]

Well..thats the future of the world..isn't it?

America has long been a melting pot of races....now Europe.

Soon there will no need to learn to spell Caucasian. In a borderless world, we would...very quickly, become historical creatures. The age of the "Caucasians"....

Not such a bad thing...just find it fun.

The friction here is not about race, its about culture and religion, IMO. The friction is not about allowance and tolerance for others, rather the guest's historic record of upstart and conflict (this is hardly debatable). This upstart and conflict legacy is already widely manifest in Europe, if not the entire historical record from Arabia to Sumatra, Colombo to the Urals, and Africa. The end result of a post enlightenment world at loggerheads with a pre enlightenment world will result in the destruction of Europe. By definition Europe will look to the rational faculties in man and shared commonalities and presume a shared vision; this cultural insurgency will have none of that. There is no shared vision. This is why there is both invitation and rapid displacement.

The dangers of this invasion are already manifesting daily across the entire European landmass. The reason that Austria and others are building fences is because they have already noted the problems, did the math, and seen the suicide. Austria (and Poland) can hardly overlook 1683 as the very people arriving make mention of this. This video is an example why countries are beginning to protest their own demise.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bd5vc_muslim-asylum-seekers-persecute-christians_news

I have written (ineffectively) for years about hijra migration, long before this European migration explosion (see posts). It is hardly likely I am sage enough to predict this invasion, therefore it is reasonable to conclude I am just looking at the correct premise, as is Austria- the country keenest to note the legacy of jihad in these current events. Take a look at someone who is a bit smarter placing today's events in the correct context:

If one does not think this is a bad development, than they either are part of the problem, disingenuous, or simply can't comprehend the issues. A Europe ran or leveraged by islam, sharia, imams, and clerics is a very bad thing... for Europe and the rational world. In islam, the rational faculties must... must be subordinated to Al Lah always. The two worlds will never mix. Europe must remain secular. Muslims will never permit Europe to have secular hegemony- never!

[Usernames]

A couple of months ago, we get moral posturing and lecturing from the Germans and Austrians. Today, they can't build a fence fast enough. It's almost funny.

[ggt]

Austria should hire Donald Trump to build their border fence...not only would he build a fence impossible to negotiate...but he would have Slovenia pay for it...

[ozyjon]

With my best buddy by my side, we'd sing! Sing! Sing!

While we build fences.

[singing]
I'm a fencer lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

REFUGEES:
He's a fencer lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I put up fences cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

REFUGEES:
He puts up fences cut down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.

I'm a fencer lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

BARBER:
He puts up fences cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.

REFUGEES:
He puts up fences cut down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!

I'm a fencer lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

BARBER:
He puts up fences cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspenders, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papa.

REFUGEES:
He puts up fences cut down trees.. He wears high heels,
Suspenders, and a bra?!

And you wanted to be a doctor.

[slipperylobster]

Austria should hire Donald Trump to build their border fence...not only would he build a fence impossible to negotiate...but he would have Slovenia pay for it...

and they would all love him....like the mexicans....perfect.