Thai cop blames rape of British tourist on bar's late hours

[assayer]

Now this is one idiot who really IS in need of "attitude adjustment"..........................

But the "attitude adjuster" said one died because she wore a bikini

[dageurreotype]

MAE HONG SON — A British tourist was raped in northern Thailand last week, and a deputy commander of the national police force said Monday it was because a bar stayed open too late.

Everyone's being wound up more on clickbait like this. Anything with a sexual content is clickbait. On the one hand, this type of thing has been going on the twenty years I've been here. On the other, owing to social media, as pathetic as the farang forums in this country are, it is getting out there. Having said that. Really? The only difference is that in 1st World countries it gets dealt with. Here?

[dopenhagen]

the cops in all of Europe would have said the same thing, stop the Thai shaming !

Edited November 3, 2015 by dopenhagen

[cockatoowho]

The problem is that this is what many Thais think and how their thought process works. Their thought process is absolutely alien to the way we think. It centers on the loss of face concept in which Thais cannot admit to wrongdoing or admitting guilt because they would lose face. This attitude is destroying Thailand and once a non Thai becomes aware of it it causes barriers that are insurmountable. You either ignore this personality defect or work around it. No Western can ever accept it and that is one reason why we can never be accepted fully in Thailand. And it becomes worse when you can speak and understand Thai b because you actually hear the expression of this nonsense clearly and fully.

Speaks volumes about not ever having had colonial rule in the country.

[Thaidream]

Police in the Western World do not speak like this because they know its wrong and nonsensical. Rape is a power issue and does not involve a sexual thought process although it is carried out in a sexual manner. It affects people of all ages and has nothing to do with attractiveness, type of clothing or any of the erroneous things that people put out there. the people who do this are mentally unstable or ill and need to be incarcerated and handled by professionals. The Thai police are way behind the curve in understanding of this behavior and this is due to poor training and poor education. The face issue normally comes in when the victim is foreign and the alleged perpetrator is Thai. This does not mean we are anti Thai. It means we understand what is going on and speak the truth.

[minikev]

Does this article accurately reflect exactly what the policeman said or is it a mangled interpretation of what was spoken in Thai ?

Good call.

There are a lot of bad interpretations to make a headline.

It would be interesting to see what he did say and check.

Converting Thai to English is never straight forward and is open to a little artistic licence.

[mijako]

"Tourist was drunk & senseless". No heart and no soul from this copper. Venting his fury at more Thailand spotlight & him being the designated spokesperson.

I think people forget Thai is a very literal language and when it get translated to English it sounds very cold and direct.

Before you go pointing the finger maybe learn a bit about thai sentence structure and vocabulary.

for me they did some google translate. When you translate senseless to thai you get หมดสติ and this means unconscious. Was she ? if not they could say she was drunk and unaware, careless or something like this.

Btw, where are the active posts?

[wow64]

Where is this guys reward he just solved this crime.

[Equalizer]

We all know the actual facts through long term study in the UK, ''the worlds booze capital'' that opening times of the establishment have the complete opposite effect and actually staying open longer, giving people more time to socialize and drink at an uninterpreted pace will avoid confrontation. Expelling several thousand people into the streets at the same time, all rushing up on alcohol has always been a recipe for disaster. A girl was raped and the guy has unfortunately come out with a comment that would be the last thing an officer in many other forces around the world would ever come out with. Its is that sad its creepy.

Sir its your beat, get your bobby.

[Lickey]

He should be sent to an inactive post

And be in the majority, about 90% i believe,,,

[jobwolf]

Why was the Law not enforced before the rape. This is a stupid excuse,

Rape happens to 99% premeditated and not by accident. These Guy's are looking for drunk Girls.

[SABloke]

"Tourist was drunk & senseless". No heart and no soul from this copper. Venting his fury at more Thailand spotlight & him being the designated spokesperson.

I think people forget Thai is a very literal language and when it get translated to English it sounds very cold and direct.

Before you go pointing the finger maybe learn a bit about thai sentence structure and vocabulary.

BS In any language or any grammatical structure the closing time of the bar and the mental state of the victim would have no direct impact on a rape taking place. 6am 1pm 1am...the rapist is the sole cause of a rape. I've seen naked chicks stumble down the road...guess what...I didn't rape them. This dipshit cop comes across as a <deleted>, because he is one NOT because his language translates badly. Give me a <deleted> break Edited November 3, 2015 by SABloke

[silent]

Now this is one idiot who really IS in need of "attitude adjustment"..........................

Dunno. Because they never miss a photo op, even forgetting where we are I can't buy one person can be that stupid without help.

Edited November 3, 2015 by silent

[yrag]

Only in Thailand where the victim always ends as being the cause...double violated

[Lupatria]

With this statement the guy qualifies automatically for a job in the higher ranks of the TAT.

[SPB65]

The problem with Thais is that they say anything and just expect that no one will disagree or challenge it because of face losing which of course is the corner stone of Thai culture. They never realize that the rest of the world thinks differently. The guy is an idiot and someone needs to tell him.

[mcfish]

Im just astounded that rape exists in thailand….why …. when anyone can summon up a woman to 'take care' from 300b upwards.

Rape isn't about submissive sex

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[Wilsonandson]

Thai cop. He's hardly going to be a Malaysian cop. This post topic is out to defame the police and Thailand. Yes his comments were not the best choice of words and the reporter has gone to great lengths to point this out. Enough police bashing and Thai bashing, although I do hope the lady in question is coping well after such a despicable crime.

[Bender]

but still everyday on this forum the thai apologist claims this country is the most safest place in the world!!!!

[jerojero]

Idiot. 'nuff said!

[The manic]

yeah right and all the illegal beer bars on Asoke near Soi Cowboy will be shutdown before 4am that they run to now..... oh wait, I did say ILLEGAL beer bars. The whole area from Sukhumvit to the Pullman smells like an open urinal every mroning along with that lovely vomit smell!!!!!

That is a street cleaning issue. The open air street bars are one of the great features of Bangkok. You don't like it. - Go home back to Saudi Arabia.

[TerrylSky]

What bullshit. I'd like him to respond to all the rapes of Thai women that occur at 2p.m. everyday.

[wabothai]

"Tourist was drunk & senseless". No heart and no soul from this copper. Venting his fury at more Thailand spotlight & him being the designated spokesperson.

I think people forget Thai is a very literal language and when it get translated to English it sounds very cold and direct.

Before you go pointing the finger maybe learn a bit about thai sentence structure and vocabulary.

enlighten us, please.

[TheThaiMe]

I can't help but think that a lot has been lost in translation.

For all of you going on about how insensitive the cop is for blaming the vistim, where in the OP does he blame the victim?

Let's face it.... At that time of night she was most likely indeed drunk and senseless. This would have made her an easier target for a scumbag rapist. So he's not wrong there.

Should the police take responsibility for allowing (or turning the other way) the bar to stay open after hours? Quite possibly but then how many of you complain when the bar your sitting in closes because of the legal hours?

For those of you that complain that had a cop been around then it wouldn't have happened. You're right but then please show me country with 0% rape cause a cops always there to stop it. Get real!

They caught the rapist. My only concern in all this is that the courts will <deleted> up. Looks like the police did a good job on this one.

Edited November 3, 2015 by TheThaiMe

[TheThaiMe]

We all know the actual facts through long term study in the UK, ''the worlds booze capital'' that opening times of the establishment have the complete opposite effect and actually staying open longer, giving people more time to socialize and drink at an uninterpreted pace will avoid confrontation. Expelling several thousand people into the streets at the same time, all rushing up on alcohol has always been a recipe for disaster. A girl was raped and the guy has unfortunately come out with a comment that would be the last thing an officer in many other forces around the world would ever come out with. Its is that sad its creepy.

Sir its your beat, get your bobby.

Rape and drunken confrontation are two very different things. The study's don't mean sh!t but it would be interesting to know how many rapes are against drunk woman at night vs women in the day

[orchidlady]

What excuse would be given for the home invasion rapes of elderly women (still not caught as far as I know), oldest reported was 80 or 85? They went to sleep too early?

[lemonjelly]

She went to Asia, got drunk, walked alone back to her room at silly o'clock, accepted a lift from a random Thai toe rag..... There's such a thing as 'asking for trouble'

[rodknock]

Thai. police Gen Wutthi Puawade is a complete <deleted> idiot. blaming rape because a bar was open late!!

a person who commits rape does not have any excuse!!! they need to go to jail and be castrated!!! they are complete low lifes.

a police men who uses an excuse of rape because the bar was open late needs to be educated and is an idiot. every one knows his posistion is purchased, not gotten by being the best person for the posistion.

[rebelplatoon]

The rest of his staff were taking bribes elsewhere. Must've been the girls fault too.... Still, an excellent idea to implement 24.00 closing time in Chiang Mai, that is, if you REALLY want tourists to never visit again. Keep it up.

[samuibeachcomber]

He should be sent to an inactive post

he's already in an inactive post.