Long term overstay

[thai006]

It cost me a lot lot more than 20,000 baht in immigration fees ,traveling costs and 90 days reporting to stay here legally,I think they should up the charge to an extra 20,000 a year on top ,sorry but it's not fair on the people who abide by the law

you right , they should pay 20 000 b a year overstay

until i move to thailand in june 2014 until now i pay 15 000B of visa , extension , border run

not fair really

[hobobo]

It amazes me how many people still brag about overstaying so many months or years. The usual reply "well, you don't know their circumstances" just doesn't cut it with me. They should be banned. I hope that the PM implements the proposals soon.

[realenglish1]

Pass on to your friend that he is an irresponsible prat. I can understand an over stay. A few month even a year or so but 9 years is juvenile irresponsibility,

I truly hope they give him a very hard time at the airport. There is simply no reason for an overstay of 9 years

I would not blame immigration if they barred him from the country

[Andrew65]

I was not taken to any room. They dealt with the matter at their desk and while clearly and justifiably they were not happy they were completely professional and indeed nicer than I had anticipated or in fact deserved. He should dress properly and be polite and accept that he is totally in the wrong and apologise and so long as he does not have any other criminal matter against him then after he pays the fine he will be allowed to go on his way and free to return. It seems that the overstay rules are in front of the PM so he is correct to leaI woulve asap before they might get implemented. Leaving for me was not the problem and took approx 30 mins to deal with but coming back I was held and questioned for longer as was seeking a visa exempt entry thus the benefit of securing a tourist visa beforehand. By the way despite my extremely long overstay it did not prevent me from obtaining tourist visas and entering back into Thailand numerous times sibce then. Indeed last time I had another 1 day overstay and the only comment aside from being asked to pay the 500 Baht was he said that he saw that I had a very long previous overstay. By surrendering and dealing with it immigration seems to view the matter as fully settled - at least for the time being!

I would also advise him to get a tourist visa, with the caveat that a visa does not guarantee entry, that is a decision that is ultimately down to the immigration officer at the point of arrival.

[Jacks77]

Mommy mommy I did my homework and he didnt and he also gets to eat candy, not fair.

Grow up!

If he decided not to obey the rules is his problem. U are all jealous because it looks like it worked better for him than to you who did.

[chuang]

I hope the offender is blacklisted, no excuse at all for it

i hope too; why people can stay 9 year and welcome back

Don't judge without knowing the circumstances, there are genuine reasons believe it or not why people find themselves in this situation. Hes doing the right thing now.

9 years overstay...'there are genuine reasons'...... ...one wonders why the latest tough immingration rules....

[jspill]

Thailand cares less about overstay than other expats, the 'new rules' about blacklisting still didn't get approved.

They care about money, and have set it up so there's almost no way for us to be a net drain on the system while we're here.

A 20k fine after 40 days is quite a decent money earner for them, equivalent to 3.3 years of 60 day tourist visas. Yet just low enough to keep people coming back and spending more money.

[teatree]

I hope the offender is blacklisted, no excuse at all for it

I have to agree with you. I live here by the rules and so should others.

And the rules as they are applied mean that you can overstay, present yourself at the airport and then pay a fine.

That may change, but they are the rules at the moment.

[teatree]

Mommy mommy I did my homework and he didnt and he also gets to eat candy, not fair.

Grow up!

If he decided not to obey the rules is his problem. U are all jealous because it looks like it worked better for him than to you who did.

True. Threads like this always bring out a disgusting, jealous, mean streak in a lot of posters.

[Autonuaq]

As you know when leaving they will check the passport, visa and stamps. Change is "he" will be questioned when leaving. and have to pay the overstay fine and in this case probably unwanted for several years.

I am sure about this because this happened to me when at the check of leaving the country the officer did oversee one page and taught I was overstaying. this was 2 weeks ago.

the overseeing happens in my case due to the way the stamps are spread one to several pages in the passport and you have to go back and forward to add up the dates.

all turned out to be in order and the Immigration Office made a note in my passport that I can show next time to the Officer so they not miss the stamps and visa's and prevent problems.

[jspill]

Arguably overstay is the Thai way of doing things, bend the rules and pay a cheeky fine. OP is just trying to fit in.

Most Thais have no idea about visa rules for foreigners, but if you sat down and explained it to them, most would roll their eyes at all the red tape and give you a nod and wink about opting for overstay.

[novo58]

simply cannot understand or believe anyone who states ......."there can be reasons for an overstay ".......... NOT for a 9yr overstay there isnt.

If your personal circumstances change then you have a responsibility to do whatever is necessary to legitimise your status.

I bet those who believe a 9 yr overstay in Thailand is OK ------wouldnt have the same thoughts about " foreigners" in their home country who overstayed for that long.

Can ANYONE .......................who thinks that a 9yr overstay is OK.................give me just one legitimate reason for such an overstay.............

cmon just one good reason for not following the rules and doing whatever may be necessary to legitimise your staus.

I wont hold my breath waiting .

[thai006]

try in us to be overstay 9 year , i dont think you can come back with a large smile lol

[doctor pat]

I hope the offender is blacklisted, no excuse at all for it

I have to agree with you. I live here by the rules and so should others.

but "the rules" are that if you go to the airport with a ticket out of Thailand and 20,000 baht you can leave, albiet with a naughty stamp, and come back without too much problem

[jaybas]

9 year overstay....lets just say its people like him that ruin it for everyone else. The laws change and make it harder for the honest people. Hope he is jailed or at the least banned from EVER returning.

[bazza40]

I am curious about the mindset of people who overstay for years. Is it because once a person has overstayed for 40 days, the fine will be the same no matter what? I can imagine there could be some panic if fines change, or other penalties are introduced.

[Fisherman194]

The guy asks for advice and apart from (the very sad people on here that think it's there duty to moralise)fortunately gets some very good advice.i rarely visit Thai visa because of the upright do no wrong members here, so won't be looking for the negative responses I am sure I will get.

[bazza40]

I wonder if all the posters stating he should be blacklisted etc would be brave enough to say it to the guys face?

Probably not ........

That's the only thing I can think about just now what is wrong with Thaivisa.

That is the very few, as in any forum, keyboard warriors, or as I call them keyboard cowards.

They are the type of people who, if you managed to locate them and approach them, they

would get on their knees and beg you not to hit them. You know who you are.

I'd suggest you should be careful what you wish for. You could equally well be confronting a 120 kg bodybuilder on steroids.

If you are going to measure the validity of an opinion by whether a "keyboard warrior" is willing to back it up in person, we may as well go back to living in caves.

[CharlieH]

Usual knee jerk reaction, lets look at the "what" and not care for one minute as to the "why" !

None of you know the circumstances involved and yet are mostly screaming to "hang em high"

Dont be so quick to judge, until you know the facts, and besides, there may well be a family and dependants involved too.

[Autonuaq]

As you know when leaving they will check the passport, visa and stamps. Change is "he" will be questioned when leaving. and have to pay the overstay fine and in this case probably unwanted for several years.

I am sure about this because this happened to me when at the check of leaving the country the officer did oversee one page and taught I was overstaying. this was 2 weeks ago.

the overseeing happens in my case due to the way the stamps are spread one to several pages in the passport and you have to go back and forward to add up the dates.

all turned out to be in order and the Immigration Office made a note in my passport that I can show next time to the Officer so they not miss the stamps and visa's and prevent problems.

forget to mention,

when you 'turn in yourselfs' to the immigration office before departure that you overstay is a better solution then they 'find out' at the check of the passport that you overstay.

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[Doc46]

Tell your Friend to go and not to come back,,,He is BAD news and an other one on the list to make it harder for us who are doing the right thing. No sympathy if he is black listed

[bark]

I cleared an 11 year overstay and paid at the airport. Probably he will be grilled a bit on exiting but so long as has the 20k and ticket out he should not be blacklisted, He should go early to allow sufficient time to deal with the matter. If he is on a new passport it will be important to have the passport that he entered upon with the TM6 (arrival) card as this will make it easier for the immigration officers to locate him on their system. I was able to re-enter 4 days later visa exempt but was taken aside and questioned very intently for a long period by the senior i/o on duty and on reflection it would be advisable, as suggested above, that your friend obtains a visa before trying to reenter. Singapore I think is not the best place to get a tourist visa he might find it better flying to Laos and obtaining the visa there and then perhaps reentering via Nong Khai.

After 9 years of over stay, I doubt he has the TM6 Arrival card. Thai immigration will not let him in, even if he has a visa and even if the Blacklist Law

has not been passed by the Government. I agree it is better for him to go to Laos. AND STAY THERE !

It is these types of people which make problems for people who try to do it the right way in Thailand.

[Ulic]

I hope the offender is blacklisted, no excuse at all for it

I have to agree with you. I live here by the rules and so should others.

On the whole I am part of the sheeple and do what I am told and I certainly follow the visa

rules. That said I don't really care if someone else does not. I am more concerned with

scammers and thieves. Real criminal elements.

[CharlieH]

An abusive post has been removed, as has a response to it.

Off topic posts also removed.

[tookwan cottage]

Mommy mommy I did my homework and he didnt and he also gets to eat candy, not fair.

Grow up!

If he decided not to obey the rules is his problem. U are all jealous because it looks like it worked better for him than to you who did.

True. Threads like this always bring out a disgusting, jealous, mean streak in a lot of posters.

You can call it "disgusting, jealous, mean," but I think it is more accurate to describe it as pathetic, small-minded, and immature. It does not surprise me that the members of Team Sanctimony, in all of their permutations the world over, have so much time to spend on forums and comment threads, as their lame mindsets typically thrive in such mediocre and tedious environments.

Instead of embracing the wonders of life and guarding themselves against actual threats, their vacuous minds seek to bring everyone down to their pitiful levels—unsurprisingly, they are the loudest complainers. Sadly, because they are mired in their mediocrity, they find it impossible to spend their time truly living instead of judging and bickering.

[bristolgeoff]

Good luck after 9 years overstay the police will waiting somehow

[brucegoniners]

I wish him good luck.

Let me ask you a question. How does one "overstay" for 9 YEARS?

That's beyond crazy.

[HerbalEd]

Your "friend" has overstayed nine years and now it's "urgent"??

[gilo]

Bark- your comment that immigration will not let him in is factually incorrect. They may or may not however in my case even after an 11 year overstay I was re-admitted 4 days later visa exempt albeit following an interview. In addition when i exited the issue of the rules on overstay were thought to have been implemented as at the end of july 2014 there were reports that people were being marked "persona non gratia". That was not ultimately the case as those rules were not and have not to date been implemented. There is nothing to stop him from being re-admitted so long as the immigration officer is satisfied. The guy will be under no doubt sufficient stress as he prepares to go in without wholly inaccurate comments on immigration's likely reaction. As I have said while they were distinctly nonplussed they dealt with my overstay professionally and politely and on my return having spoken to the senior i/o on duty I was duly re-admitted and so there is no reason at the current time why this person will not also be re-admitted. I too am a UK passport holder. The overstay stamp was immediately noticeable as I exited on a new passport and therefore it was marked on the only used page of the passport. Therefore there was no questione that it may have been simply missed by the consulates who subsequently granted me a visa let alone to the various immigration officers who have re-admitted me on numerous occasions since August 2014. He is right to be dealing with it and the sense of relief once cleared will be tremendous.So to the op I can say from personal experience that so long as he deals with this in the correct way he should not have a problem leaving or indeed returning despite all the bad wishes of some posters on here. Good luck to him and if he wants to discuss this further I am happy to do so via pm.

[hobobo]

I will propose to the Immigration Department that they remove the 20,000 Baht maximum fine. Then the people who want to overstay for 9 years will be given a bill for 1,642,500 Baht (500 x 365 x 9), or 9 years in jail. Up to the overstayer...