rooster59 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Police deny soldiers link to lese-majesteBANGKOK: Not a single soldier has been implicated in the high-profile lese-majeste case involving famous fortune teller Suriyan Sujaritpolwong, police have said."The investigation report is more than 90 per cent complete already, and not one soldier is named as a suspect," acting national police Deputy Commissioner Lt-General Srivara Rangsibrahmanakul said yesterday.He was speaking in response to reports that dozens of commissioned military officers were involved in the case.The case also involves Suriyan's secretary Jirawong Wattanathewasilp and Pol Major Prakrom Warunprapha.Before his arrest, Suriyan, better known as Mor Yong, had served as an adviser to a subcommittee responsible for holding public relations activities for the "Bike for Mom" cycling event on August 16, as well as the "Bike for Dad" event scheduled for December 11.Prakrom committed suicide while in custody last month.Srivara yesterday said he was considering taking action against media outlets that published false information with malicious intent."If there is evidence against a soldier, police will definitely take action. We trust that the Army won't protect wrongdoers. But at this point, there is nothing against any soldier at all," he said.Regarding the unauthorised installation of signal transmission devices on the Baiyoke Tower, Srivara said there was no evidence to link the installation to lese-majeste."So, it's just a violation to the Communications Act," Srivara said.He said Sukkho Tarmseree, who is close to Prakrom, was not found to have committed lese-majeste."He is just charged with unauthorised possession of guns and ammunition," he said.Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan, meanwhile, said he had not heard of any soldier fleeing the country. "No, it's just that some soldiers haven't reported to work lately," he said. "They don't face any arrest warrant." Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Police-deny-soldiers-link-to-lese-majeste-30272440.html -- The Nation 2015-11-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Only a couple of days ago the national police chief was personally ' convinced ' an army colonel was involved and evidence was being gathered but now his deputy wants nothing to do with it. At the time there was a rebuke of sorts from the Defence Minister who said he also oversees the police and had hadn't been told anything so he doubted it. Is the police chief correct but has been told to back off ? If not he needs a severe rap on the knuckles for talking out of turn. Yes it's the national sport amongst Thai officialdom but that doesn't make it OK and doesn't help any in most situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yesterday it was reported that up to 50 military officers could be involved. Today not a single military person is involved. How convenient... for the military. In the BP this morning, it is reported that the testimony implicating the military is not being accepted. No explanation beyond testimony not accepted. Sorry, but something just does not smell right here. Is this a coverup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 He said Sukkho Tarmseree, who is close to Prakrom, was not found to have committed lese-majeste."He is just charged with unauthorised possession of guns and ammunition," he said. Ah OK, so nothing of importance then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Only a couple of days ago the national police chief was personally ' convinced ' an army colonel was involved and evidence was being gathered but now his deputy wants nothing to do with it. At the time there was a rebuke of sorts from the Defence Minister who said he also oversees the police and had hadn't been told anything so he doubted it. Is the police chief correct but has been told to back off ? If not he needs a severe rap on the knuckles for talking out of turn. Yes it's the national sport amongst Thai officialdom but that doesn't make it OK and doesn't help any in most situations. From the article at this point, there is nothing against any soldier at all No evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yes, no, maybe, or only misquoted by the media. Aren't we still waiting for Col Kacharchat to return from Myanmar? It's as though Somyot had never left! No serious charges pending, 'just' a violation of the Communications Act, and unauthorised possession of guns and ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Remember how we were told with certainty that no army people were involved in trafficking? Right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Only a couple of days ago the national police chief was personally ' convinced ' an army colonel was involved and evidence was being gathered but now his deputy wants nothing to do with it. At the time there was a rebuke of sorts from the Defence Minister who said he also oversees the police and had hadn't been told anything so he doubted it. Is the police chief correct but has been told to back off ? If not he needs a severe rap on the knuckles for talking out of turn. Yes it's the national sport amongst Thai officialdom but that doesn't make it OK and doesn't help any in most situations. From the article at this point, there is nothing against any soldier at all No evidence. You must love looking the other way when a car runs over a dog. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The hard copy of the BP is carrying on the front page that a couple of military being investigated in relation to the new King's Park. Well i mean who would of thought it....... No doubt it will all disappear. These stories are pretty bad for the army who justify their position with their whole protecting the Institution schtick when everyone knows its protecting themselves they care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Regardless of who is what and what is who one glaring feature is that with this draconian law Thailand still lives in the dark ages, whilst this law stays in vogue Democracy and freedom of speech are a myth and to top it off the people of Thailand have sat back and allowed another draconian law to establish itself with the Prayut - O -Cha section 44, the maturity of Thailand as a nation has to be questioned , one hopes over time everyone can stand back and laugh about the time when these laws dominated the Thailand landscape.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Regardless of who is what and what is who one glaring feature is that with this draconian law Thailand still lives in the dark ages, whilst this law stays in vogue Democracy and freedom of speech are a myth and to top it off the people of Thailand have sat back and allowed another draconian law to establish itself with the Prayut - O -Cha section 44, the maturity of Thailand as a nation has to be questioned , one hopes over time everyone can stand back and laugh about the time when these laws dominated the Thailand landscape.......... I'm afraid it will end in tears, not laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Simple proposition, really: While we are in power, we are immune, we do nothing wrong and do not attempt anything on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yesterday it was reported that up to 50 military officers could be involved. Today not a single military person is involved. How convenient... for the military. In the BP this morning, it is reported that the testimony implicating the military is not being accepted. No explanation beyond testimony not accepted. Sorry, but something just does not smell right here. Is this a coverup? Generally the cover-ups are pretty blindingly obvious - so yes, it could well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There are plenty of red-shirts in the Army : Thaksin boasted about how many he has 'on-board' during the audio scandal. So I'm sure there are plenty involved in something like this. Prayuth is trying to maintain the integrity of the Army and the royalist stance. I have noticed he will sometimes make a higher level decision then stick to it even if he looks a bit stupid. His comments saying the GT200 bomb detectors worked are another example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I think a deal has been struck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Really?? No soldiers involved....next would be no police involved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There are plenty of red-shirts in the Army : Thaksin boasted about how many he has 'on-board' during the audio scandal. So I'm sure there are plenty involved in something like this. Prayuth is trying to maintain the integrity of the Army and the royalist stance. I have noticed he will sometimes make a higher level decision then stick to it even if he looks a bit stupid. His comments saying the GT200 bomb detectors worked are another example. Ah, so it's just the redshirt soldiers who're involved. Why didn't I think of that? I'd be grateful if you'd let us know who provides you with these hot tips. Mr Suthep? Or maybe Mrs EnglishJohn?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seems like the fortune teller's health took a nasty turn for the worse and he passed away from septicemia in the prison hospital on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 and the purging continues - interesting to see how foggy this LM purge is... loved this part: We trust that the Army won't protect wrongdoers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seems like the fortune teller's health took a nasty turn for the worse and he passed away from septicemia in the prison hospital on Friday. If so someone needs to take a long hard look at the military's " special prisons". 2 out of 3 dying in custody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kareona Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seems like the fortune teller's health took a nasty turn for the worse and he passed away from septicemia in the prison hospital on Friday. News now says he died Saterday evening. Yesterday an autopsy was done. The body was released to the family and immediately cremated in a Wat in Bang Seu. The man who hanged himself while in custody a few days ago was also cremated hours after the body was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 It is obviously very bad for health to be considered involved in LM: two suicides and one fatal septicemia, in a matter of days, the arrested(!) 'main'(?!) suspects are falling like flies after a Baygon treatment... One: well, it is possible, two: hmm, it's quite unlikely, but, three: erm... Bring that together with a 'communication disaster' on the RTP side, nothing unusual, alas, but also from the RTA side, the NCPO, the Defence Min., and even from the PM himself... What could have started to, very 'accidentally', unravel, something of enormous size then, not supposed or expected to ever see the light of day, which could justify such frantic efforts of 'containment', at any cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Simple proposition, really: While we are in power, we are immune, we do nothing wrong and do not attempt anything on us. Don't push it, nobody wants them to copy the TRT/PPP/PTP ways...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 There must be someone very senior implicated in all of this. Why are these people topping themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Am really surprised by TVF forums, tbh, I can understand this might lead to sensitive discussion but except if I missed it, I haven't seen a thread on forums about this 2nd death in prison... Front page of BP website yesterday and not a single thread... I understand "legalize canabis", "10 thai prostitutes in India" "Sperm donation in Siam" have good click-response rates for TVF but man... 2 out of 3 arrested died in Military prison.. Scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 My wife says the guy that died in jail was a body double for the fortune teller. He has lots of money she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Am really surprised by TVF forums, tbh, I can understand this might lead to sensitive discussion but except if I missed it, I haven't seen a thread on forums about this 2nd death in prison... Front page of BP website yesterday and not a single thread... I understand "legalize canabis", "10 thai prostitutes in India" "Sperm donation in Siam" have good click-response rates for TVF but man... 2 out of 3 arrested died in Military prison.. Scary From the Forum Rules: 26) The Bangkok Post and Phuketwan do not allow quotes from their news articles or other material to appear on Thaivisa.com. Neither do they allow links to their publications. Posts from members containing quotes from or links to Bangkok Post or Phuketwan publications will be deleted from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Only BP reported that news, no other source? Fully understand that we cannot link or post part of articles of BP, just surprised it did not surface in other news sources.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingrobin Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Only BP reported that news, no other source? Fully understand that we cannot link or post part of articles of BP, just surprised it did not surface in other news sources.. It was on the BBC website , and in the Japan times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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