Ex-energy minister will need a permit from NCPO to attend conference in Washington DC

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Ex-energy minister will need a permit from NCPO to attend conference in Washington DC



BANGKOK: -- Former energy minister Pichai Nariptapant will have to get a permission from the National Council for Peace and Order in order to attend a conference organized by the US Congress in Washington DC, said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha on Tuesday.

He said he didn’t know whether Mr Pichai would speak anything which would be damaging to the country. The NCPO will have to consider such possibility, he added.

“Why, does he has to go every time there is an invitation?” asked the prime minister in response to a reporter’s question about Mr Pichai’s planned trip abroad to attend the conference.

“If he wants to (leave the country to attend the meeting), then he must make sure that he must not speak anything damaging to the country. But I don’t know whether he will do it or not,” said the prime minister.

Asked about former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra’s repeated petition against the government’s plan to use an administrative order to demand compensation from her over the rice pledging scheme, the prime minister said he was not disturbed by her move, insisting that she has to right to petition.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-energy-minister-will-need-a-permit-from-ncpo-to-attend-conference-in-washington-dc


-- Thai PBS 2015-11-18

[worgeordie]

"why does he want to go every time there is a invitation ?"

maybe because its a freebie.

regards Worgeordie

[taony]

If the criteria is not speak anything damaging to the country, why is the "PM" always speaking?

[whatproblem]

Don't let him go ,part of his punishment

[thelonius]

Don't let him go ,part of his punishment

Am i missing something? Punishment for what - being a member of the previous government? Presumably you see nothing wrong with a junta leader that took over a country deciding who can leave that country and under what conditions.

Don't you find that in the least bit disturbing, or are you just another junta punter?

[oneday]

...damaging to the country = ...damaging to me.

[jaywalker]

Why does this remind me of the U.S.S.R. ?

OH! Because it IS like the U.S.S.R.

[waldroj]

A country that prevents its citizens from leaving?

While it is illegal for North Koreans to leave their country without the regime’s permission, former US diplomat John Burgess notes that some countries require their citizens to have exit visas to leave. These include: Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Nepal, Uzbekistan, Russia, Czech Republic.

There are also quite liberal countries that are trying to prevent their citizens from leaving, in an effort to stop them joining the Islamic State. In fact the UN Security Council, through resolution 2178 (2014), unanimously decided “that all States shall ensure that their legal systems provide for the prosecution, as serious criminal offences, of travel for terrorism or related training” (http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11580.doc.htm).

So, if Thailand believes that Pichai may “speak anything damaging to the country”, perhaps it can cite UN resolution 2178 (2014) as an excuse for denying him the right to leave the country?

However, Thailand also needs to consider that the UN and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights both declare that this right to leave one's own country is a fundamental right.

[yellowboat]

The junta is always afraid of somebody criticizing them. It is shocking how emotional and thin skinned they are.

[Baerboxer]

A country that prevents its citizens from leaving?

While it is illegal for North Koreans to leave their country without the regime’s permission, former US diplomat John Burgess notes that some countries require their citizens to have exit visas to leave. These include: Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Nepal, Uzbekistan, Russia, Czech Republic.

There are also quite liberal countries that are trying to prevent their citizens from leaving, in an effort to stop them joining the Islamic State. In fact the UN Security Council, through resolution 2178 (2014), unanimously decided “that all States shall ensure that their legal systems provide for the prosecution, as serious criminal offences, of travel for terrorism or related training” (http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11580.doc.htm).

So, if Thailand believes that Pichai may “speak anything damaging to the country”, perhaps it can cite UN resolution 2178 (2014) as an excuse for denying him the right to leave the country?

However, Thailand also needs to consider that the UN and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights both declare that this right to leave one's own country is a fundamental right.

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

[jesimps]

A country that prevents its citizens from leaving?

While it is illegal for North Koreans to leave their country without the regimes permission, former US diplomat John Burgess notes that some countries require their citizens to have exit visas to leave. These include: Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Nepal, Uzbekistan, Russia, Czech Republic.

There are also quite liberal countries that are trying to prevent their citizens from leaving, in an effort to stop them joining the Islamic State. In fact the UN Security Council, through resolution 2178 (2014), unanimously decided that all States shall ensure that their legal systems provide for the prosecution, as serious criminal offences, of travel for terrorism or related training (http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11580.doc.htm).

So, if Thailand believes that Pichai may speak anything damaging to the country, perhaps it can cite UN resolution 2178 (2014) as an excuse for denying him the right to leave the country?

However, Thailand also needs to consider that the UN and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights both declare that this right to leave one's own country is a fundamental right.

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

[halloween]

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

[yellowboat]

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Wow you do like spurting off the unfounded. If he is under investigation, should he not be told ? Your junta are cowards and are afraid of what might be said. They are afraid. This causes them and the country more harm than anything else, as they cannot be taken seriously.

[halloween]

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Wow you do like spurting off the unfounded. If he is under investigation, should he not be told ? Your junta are cowards and are afraid of what might be said. They are afraid. This causes them and the country more harm than anything else, as they cannot be taken seriously.

Are you under the impression that police forces routinely inform those that they are investigating? Or do you accept every statement by a government spokesman at face value?

[yellowboat]

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Wow you do like spurting off the unfounded. If he is under investigation, should he not be told ? Your junta are cowards and are afraid of what might be said. They are afraid. This causes them and the country more harm than anything else, as they cannot be taken seriously.

Are you under the impression that police forces routinely inform those that they are investigating? Or do you accept every statement by a government spokesman at face value?

No they do not, but they have to once they start infringing on people's rights. But under your precious junta I suppose they can lie, curb rights without charge and you are okay with that?

[elgordo38]

"why does he want to go every time there is a invitation ?"

maybe because its a freebie.

regards Worgeordie

He did not say want to go he said has to go. Its simple just gag his mouth and throw him on the plane. When he appears gagged a picture will be worth a 1000 words.

[elgordo38]

A country that prevents its citizens from leaving?

While it is illegal for North Koreans to leave their country without the regime’s permission, former US diplomat John Burgess notes that some countries require their citizens to have exit visas to leave. These include: Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Nepal, Uzbekistan, Russia, Czech Republic.

There are also quite liberal countries that are trying to prevent their citizens from leaving, in an effort to stop them joining the Islamic State. In fact the UN Security Council, through resolution 2178 (2014), unanimously decided “that all States shall ensure that their legal systems provide for the prosecution, as serious criminal offences, of travel for terrorism or related training” (http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11580.doc.htm).

So, if Thailand believes that Pichai may “speak anything damaging to the country”, perhaps it can cite UN resolution 2178 (2014) as an excuse for denying him the right to leave the country?

However, Thailand also needs to consider that the UN and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights both declare that this right to leave one's own country is a fundamental right.

Ah yes the term fundamental rights. I can feel mine slipping away bit by bit.

[elgordo38]

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Take anyone from either side and turn over enough stones and you will eventually find a body. Criminal organisation yeah that pretty well covers politico's of all stripes all over the planet. The PTP does not have a corner on the market.

[EnglishJohn]

Don't let him go ,part of his punishment

Am i missing something? Punishment for what - being a member of the previous government? Presumably you see nothing wrong with a junta leader that took over a country deciding who can leave that country and under what conditions.

Don't you find that in the least bit disturbing, or are you just another junta punter?

I personally would like to see the dirty little crony prosecuted for abuse of power because he voted to give amnesty to himself and all his mates for all corruption charges since 2004.

'under what conditions' ?? - seriously ?. Your are indeed missing something. Here's a clue for you : 30 innocent protesters dead (including children) during 90 grenade attacks as a result of state sponsored terrorism. See if you can work it out yourself from there.

[halloween]

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Wow you do like spurting off the unfounded. If he is under investigation, should he not be told ? Your junta are cowards and are afraid of what might be said. They are afraid. This causes them and the country more harm than anything else, as they cannot be taken seriously.

Are you under the impression that police forces routinely inform those that they are investigating? Or do you accept every statement by a government spokesman at face value?

No they do not, but they have to once they start infringing on people's rights. But under your precious junta I suppose they can lie, curb rights without charge and you are okay with that?

Yeah, as long as one of the rights curbed is to commit murder as a form of political protest.

[MZurf]

All of us are having our freedoms eroded. Part of this is the development in IS/IT, big data, that gives more and more information about its citizens to governments.

The countries that require exit visas usually argue that it's a check to make sure that person isn't running away from legal proceedings, has unpaid taxes, fines or debts, and is not wanted by the authorities.

Sadly, that list of countries is likely to grow rather than reduce.

This has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mention.

The STATED reason has nothing to do with any of the reasons he mentioned. As a member of the criminal organisation known as the PTP government, he may well be under investigation.

Wow you do like spurting off the unfounded. If he is under investigation, should he not be told ? Your junta are cowards and are afraid of what might be said. They are afraid. This causes them and the country more harm than anything else, as they cannot be taken seriously.

Are you under the impression that police forces routinely inform those that they are investigating? Or do you accept every statement by a government spokesman at face value?

"Are you under the impression that police forces routinely inform those that they are investigating? "

The police routinely inform suspects and wanted criminals about their plan to apprehend, crack down, investigate, so the answer is "yes".

[MZurf]

Don't let him go ,part of his punishment

Am i missing something? Punishment for what - being a member of the previous government? Presumably you see nothing wrong with a junta leader that took over a country deciding who can leave that country and under what conditions.

Don't you find that in the least bit disturbing, or are you just another junta punter?

I personally would like to see the dirty little crony prosecuted for abuse of power because he voted to give amnesty to himself and all his mates for all corruption charges since 2004.

'under what conditions' ?? - seriously ?. Your are indeed missing something. Here's a clue for you : 30 innocent protesters dead (including children) during 90 grenade attacks as a result of state sponsored terrorism. See if you can work it out yourself from there.

"I personally would like to see the dirty little crony prosecuted for abuse of power because he voted to give amnesty to himself and all his mates for all corruption charges since 2004."

On John, here you are again obsessing about something. They tried but did not succeed John, so they are I guess guilty of "attempted amnesty".

Your hero took it one-step further and actually did it, granting himself and his guys an amnesty for all past, present and future crimes.

Now how about that, John??

[Maestro]

Is it customary for US Congress in Washington DC to invite an ex-minister of a friendly country to an international conference it organises? Why not invite the current minister?

[thelonius]

Is it customary for US Congress in Washington DC to invite an ex-minister of a friendly country to an international conference it organises? Why not invite the current minister?

Possibly because the current minister is a member of a military junta government formed as a result of a coup - military coups are generally frowned upon by countries in the West, an approach that some expatriates of those countries have apparently cast aside whilst ranting at their adopted bogeyman.

Edited November 19, 2015 by thelonius