silent Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well an 8 year sentence isn't a moral lessons is it, it's a legal one. Duh In a way I wish they'd start here. Duh without really bothering since they were just charged on the weekend, it's unlikely they're going to get what's probably the max if convicted and sentenced to 8 years. But it does send out a message to fabricators that spread misinformation like gospel don't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It looks like quite a few TV posters will be heading for the slammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbabythai Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 LOS a real democracy not. no freedom of speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well, let's just hope thai police doesn't start browsing english forums... If they charge everyone, who criticized the RTP for the handling of the Koh Tao case, they better build a new jail. Regarding the forums, I suppose, we should use questions and the subjunctive, to be on the safe side, i.e.: Wouldn't it be more efficient for the RTP , to go after all the available evidence, like the CCTV material provided from the camera at the pier on Koh Tao, and the collected telephone data of the possible culprits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 We better be careful on here too,if they ever get to read some of what is said about them on here,there could be a few arrests, they are very sensitive,8 years is more than you would get for murder !. regards Worgeordie It's okay. I will tell them you put me up to it. I suppose it's true in this day and age that authorities both in Thailand or anyone else can find you out through your e-mail address. Both Thaivisa and Facebook have your e-mail address, just how private is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 What unadulterated pure big brother garbage...turn themseives in, for <deleted> what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well an 8 year sentence isn't a moral lessons is it, it's a legal one. Duh In a way I wish they'd start here. Duh without really bothering since they were just charged on the weekend, it's unlikely they're going to get what's probably the max if convicted and sentenced to 8 years. But it does send out a message to fabricators that spread misinformation like gospel don't it? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fekman Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I wonder which one of her facebook 'friends' grassed her up to authorities? Its not like they would just randomly see her post..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Unfortunately truth is no defense on the charge of defamation in this country Yep. Unfortunately, "unimpeachable witnesses" are a satang a dozen in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well an 8 year sentence isn't a moral lessons is it, it's a legal one. Duh In a way I wish they'd start here. Duh without really bothering since they were just charged on the weekend, it's unlikely they're going to get what's probably the max if convicted and sentenced to 8 years. But it does send out a message to fabricators that spread misinformation like gospel don't it? What? Seconded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman961 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Oh no, don't insult the corrupt, lazy, idiotic and damn right stupid police force of Thailand. What a joke! Had many dealings with the Thai so called police and been left feeling let down, threatened and shocked at their incompatance. A police force filled with half wits who are fully responsible for most of the serious crimes themselves, who can be seen constantly breaking the law and then turn around trying to enforce it onto others whenever it suits them for their own needs. If you know one and have a bit of money you will be fine. Cross one or get on the wrong end of the law by standing your ground and relying on the truth and justice then you don't have a chance. I don't care what they think, MAFIA IN BROWN UNIFORMS !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well, let's just hope thai police doesn't start browsing english forums... Thai police reading English forums???? Oh my, what have I done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 How can reporting the facts (true facts) be libel? Libel - "a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation." Yes, but that is under Western countries laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is the ugly underbelly of Thailand's legal system: CRIMINAL libel and slander laws. In civilized countries those are CIVIL matters and you can sue for damages, but you can't be sent to jail. If they wanted to enforce this thoroughly, every poster on ThaiVisa would be looking at jail time. Even me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 if the service isn't good enough then expect to be criticised, it's all part of feedback and continued improvements and if you think you are beyond criticism be careful about the can of worms you are about to open, it will come back and bite you hard If this woman broke the law then prosecute her for the offence she committed and move on, this libel accusation is pure nonsense and any reasonable court will see it that way Only problem is .........finding a reasonable court ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is one of Thailand's greatest liabilities...the inability to take criticism and not allow freedom of the press... That is why they are a traditional status quo culture stuck in a time warp unable to improve themselves individually and collectively.... A real problem for them..... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 LOS a real democracy not. no freedom of speech Why do posters constantly recite this idiocy, it's not 'a democracy' in case you hadn't noticed there was yet another military coup not far back and as to whether there was 'freedom of speech' under any other pretext for 'a democracy' in the shape of yet another bunch of thieves at the trough is debatable. Christ there are some real muppets on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I guess Thai Visa will have to write another forum rule: No criticizing any Thai government institution regardless of the validity of the critique.Guess TV will have to go back an delete all reference to any Thai government institutions. That should cut their database about in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) It looks like quite a few TV posters will be heading for the slammer Haha, yes could be a real hit to the Thai economy, as thousands of TV posters are rounded up and sent to jail. And thousands more flee to their home countries in terror of the military re-education camps.... In a bid to help save the Thai economy, perhaps the Thai police could actually start arrest criminals instead of collecting corruption money. Then they would no longer have to fear criticism. Edited November 24, 2015 by EyesWideOpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim94 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Libéré d expression . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champneys Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is a new North Korea. Yeah but the Thai people cannot see it YET. When they do it will be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim94 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Speechless Edited November 24, 2015 by salim94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A Farang Buddy of mine has been selling Condo's for the last 17 years in Pattaya. These days he has 2 categories of clients left: - Long term Farang residents are clearly on the sellers side. - Only "new Farang's" are left on the buyers side. Witch side is better equipped to assess "where Thailand is going" ? Should this tell us something? Cheers. Would you expect it to be the other way around? Think about it. You need a more comprehensive analysis. Sorry, I forgot to mention: Most sellers do not seem to re-invest their money in another real-estate project in Thailand. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This country seems to be getting worse in regard to freedom of speech. First it is do not criticize or comment on the Ratchapakdi Park fiasco (despite it being so obvious that corruption was involved), do not comment on politics or present political opinions even if you are a university lecturer teaching political science, and now do not criticize the police. Next it will be "Do not criticize the ban on criticism." Bloody hell, when are they going to introduce thought police to this new Orwellian state. What a strange question - what do you think this and many other official censures of free expression already amount to ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I guess Thai Visa will have to write another forum rule: No criticizing any Thai government institution regardless of the validity of the critique. Guess TV will have to go back an delete all reference to any Thai government institutions. That should cut their database about in half. Or perhaps ThaiVisa should be divided up into two sections. One for farangs who reside in Thailand, so heavily moderated of course. Then have another section for farangs to post in who live overseas beyond the reach of this lunatic government, who are free to poke fun at these bizarre antics... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard2010 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I guess Thai Visa will have to write another forum rule: No criticizing any Thai government institution regardless of the validity of the critique. Guess TV will have to go back an delete all reference to any Thai government institutions. That should cut their database about in half. What about the problems we are having in The Chiang Mai forum About Promenada Immigration in Chiang Mai Maybe we could all be charged After all the immigration are under Umbrella of The Royal Thai Police http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/861438-immigration-promenada-one-stop-service-v2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AloisAmrein Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Freedom of media and human rights = unknown words for the Thai government. Because at least 500 years back in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Chinese authoritarianism really rubbing off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 this crazy libel laws are since a longer time in power....Someone recall who made them? The law, ie the Criminal Code, also known as the Penal Code, was made by the parliament in the year B.E. 2499, which I believe was A.D. 1956, and has been amended a few times since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) And ex pats still want to move to Thailand or find ways to stay in that Draconian ruled junta. Why would you want to find a way to get a multiple or long term visa to have to deal with a government as repressive as the current Thai government? Edited November 24, 2015 by Jimdandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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