Petition to ban Trump from UK passes 300K, could be debated in Parliament

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Petition to ban Trump from UK passes 300K, could be debated in Parliament

London (CNN)A petition calling for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the UK has attracted more than a quarter of a million signatures -- more than enough for a committee to consider sending the motion for parliamentary debate.

The petition to block the front-running Republican presidential candidate from entering the country was created on the British government's official petitions website in response to Trump's call Monday to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. due to the threat of terrorism.

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK," read the petition, which was created by Suzanne Kelly, a woman from Aberdeen, Scotland, who has previously campaigned against Trump's political and business activities.

Full story: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/uk-donald-trump-ban-petition/


-- CNN 2015-12-10

[NeverSure]

This is an uprising of the now majority UK Muslim population, innit?

[SgtRock]

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The government has signalled it will not refuse the US presidential candidate Donald Trump entry to Britain following his controversial comments about Muslims, despite a petition calling for a ban gathering more than 360,000 signatures in just over 24 hours.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/09/petition-calling-for-donald-trump-to-be-banned-from-uk-signed-by-85000

So Suzanne Kelly. What is your motivation. His controversial comments on Muslims or his golf resort.

[Mosha]

FWIW there is a counter petition.

[luke000]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

[Linky]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

[GeorgesAbitbol]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

English humour is one of the best

[Bakseeda]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

And, pray tell us ..... what law would that be..? If you just feel like talking, Please phone your mom..!

[shaggy28303]

WOW 300,000 Muslims in UK who hate Trump

[Steely Dan]

This is an uprising of the now majority UK Muslim population, innit?

I think over 300,000 culture enrichers arrived in the UK during the last year. I would expect a lot of Mo's on the petition and even more thumbprints.

[Steely Dan]

FWIW there is a counter petition.

It won't be reported on by the Beeb who managed to completely ignore a petition for no more immigration signed by half a million people.

[bangkapi]

Four words: Knee jerk douche bags.

[luke000]

This is an uprising of the now majority UK Muslim population, innit?

I think over 300,000 culture enrichers arrived in the UK during the last year. I would expect a lot of Mo's on the petition and even more thumbprints.

The petition hotspots, where the voters live, are predominately Muslim areas .

Tower Hamlets etc

[BKKBrit]

I signed it yesterday at about 4pm Thailand time. I was number 62,522. Phenomenal interest in this and if any of you have watched the man and his family's antics in Scotland with his golf course and couldn't be similarly outraged about what he did there, then you too should be signing it to bar this cretin from entering the UK.

If nothing else, it's embarrassing for him - which is a good thing.

The petition signatories now stands at 374,000. And there's a neat map showing where the signatures are coming from :- http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=114003

[MrTee]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

And, pray tell us ..... what law would that be..? If you just feel like talking, Please phone your mom..!

The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

[luke000]

then you too should be signing it to bar this cretin from entering the UK.

You so realise that it is just a petition to get the subject debated in Parliament, if they decide a debate about the topic is necessary , and they are very unlikely to even debate the subject, let alone actually banning him

[dexterm]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

They want to ban him for his hate speech. They don't want him stirring up trouble in UK with his brand of racism/religionism

"Consistency is most important. If the government has chosen to ban those who preach and incite hatred, that should be applicable to all, regardless of whether they are a US presidential candidate or a preacher from a faith group."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/uk-parliament-debate-ban-trump-entering-country-151209134218961.html

Congratulations to the UK petitioners. I hope they succeed.Trump will get a taste of his own medicine.

[Steely Dan]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

And, pray tell us ..... what law would that be..? If you just feel like talking, Please phone your mom..!

The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

In that case what of the list of Muslim hate preachers allowed into the UK, the latest being one who is thought to have radicalized one of the Paris bombers?

Hypocrisy much.

[h90]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

They want to ban him for his hate speech. They don't want him stirring up trouble in UK with his brand of racism/religionism

"Consistency is most important. If the government has chosen to ban those who preach and incite hatred, that should be applicable to all, regardless of whether they are a US presidential candidate or a preacher from a faith group."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/uk-parliament-debate-ban-trump-entering-country-151209134218961.html

Congratulations to the UK petitioners. I hope they succeed.Trump will get a taste of his own medicine.

Freedom of speech simply has no tradition in Europe.....

[MrTee]

This is an uprising of the now majority UK Muslim population, innit?

I think over 300,000 culture enrichers arrived in the UK during the last year. I would expect a lot of Mo's on the petition and even more thumbprints.

The petition hotspots, where the voters live, are predominately Muslim areas .

Tower Hamlets etc

There are no "predominately Muslim" areas in the UK.

The area you cited "Tower Hamlets" does have the highest percentages of Muslims per capita in the UK.. around 35% but clearly this is does make is a "predominately Muslim area"

Population of Tower Hamlets is around 280,000, so Peak Muslim signers from Tower Hamlets could only ever be somewhat less than 90,000..

Further, I wouldn't be surprised at all if ALL UK Muslims were to take umbrage with Donald Trump's outburst.. What would you expect?

[MrTee]

The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

In that case what of the list of Muslim hate preachers allowed into the UK, the latest being one who is thought to have radicalized one of the Paris bombers?

Hypocrisy much.

Absolutely No! Clearly not the case. .

If a known hate preacher of any religion tries to get a UK visa they will be denied.

[Linky]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

And, pray tell us ..... what law would that be..? If you just feel like talking, Please phone your mom..!

Look it up, what he is saying is illegal in the UK. If you dont know call your fathers.

[MrTee]

The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

In that case what of the list of Muslim hate preachers allowed into the UK, the latest being one who is thought to have radicalized one of the Paris bombers?

Hypocrisy much.

Steely Dan, Can you supply me a link to this "list of Muslim preachers allowed in to the UK" Specifically the one who radicalised one of the Paris bombers?

[luke000]

So, they wan to ban a person from entering a Country because he suggested that some people should be banned from entering a Country .

No, they want the law to apply to everyone.

And, pray tell us ..... what law would that be..? If you just feel like talking, Please phone your mom..!

The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

Will George Galloway, who publicly stated that no Israelis should be allowed into certain cities in the UK be allowed to vote on the subject ?

[SgtRock]

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:41, said:

Steely Dan, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:36, said:

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:28, said:The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

In that case what of the list of Muslim hate preachers allowed into the UK, the latest being one who is thought to have radicalized one of the Paris bombers?

Hypocrisy much.

Absolutely No! Clearly not the case. .

If a known hate preacher of any religion tries to get a UK visa they will be denied.

They are not known for using the visa route.

They normally use the Asylum seeking route.

[Thorgal]

then you too should be signing it to bar this cretin from entering the UK.

You so realise that it is just a petition to get the subject debated in Parliament, if they decide a debate about the topic is necessary , and they are very unlikely to even debate the subject, let alone actually banning him

This is just a popular petition. But it represents a concern from UK people.

Would be unthinkable in the US for a foreign political figure.

The diplomatic impact is silent to the media but more important than this petition.

Nothing in his PR campaign is a coincidence. He's just running a script. His timing to make a visit to Israel is not a coincidence at all. He did his homework pretty well.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Thorgal

[MrTee]

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:41, said:

Steely Dan, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:36, said:

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:28, said:The law that says the UK will not permit entry to those that spread hate speech or hold a criminal record.

Same rules were applied to Chris Brown, Martha Stewart, Eric Snowden, "Tyler the Creator", Mike Tyson, Shirley Phelps..

You can read about the rules here. No need to ask "mom"..

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/general-grounds-for-refusal-modernised-guidance

I see no reason to treat Donald Trump any different. do you?

The petition's wording:

"The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behaviour' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful."

Besides his recent outburst against certain religions - his sexist and atrocious attitude towards women would enough to deny him a visa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

We apply the same rules to Muslims, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, French, Catholics, Jains, Hindus ..

One thing you may not understand about the modern UK is we really do believe in fairness.. It would be very un-British to pick on a particular group based on religion or race or gender or wealth..

I hope this helps..

In that case what of the list of Muslim hate preachers allowed into the UK, the latest being one who is thought to have radicalized one of the Paris bombers?

Hypocrisy much.

Absolutely No! Clearly not the case. .

If a known hate preacher of any religion tries to get a UK visa they will be denied.

They are not known for using the visa route.

They normally use the Asylum seeking route.

That is very interesting..

Can you supply a link to a credible source to support that assertion?

[SgtRock]

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:49, said:

SgtRock, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:45, said:

MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:41, said:MrTee, on 10 Dec 2015 - 11:41, said:

Absolutely No! Clearly not the case. .

If a known hate preacher of any religion tries to get a UK visa they will be denied.

They are not known for using the visa route.

They normally use the Asylum seeking route.

That is very interesting..

Can you supply a link to a credible source to support that assertion?

Links Links Links

Never heard of Abu Hamza

[luke000]

There are no "predominately Muslim" areas in the UK.

The area you cited "Tower Hamlets" does have the highest percentages of Muslims per capita in the UK.. around 35% but clearly this is does make is a "predominately Muslim area"

There are more Muslims in Tower hamlets than any other Religion , which does indeed make TH predominately a Muslim area

[jalansanitwong]

Welcome to Englanistan.

How many anglo-saxons are left on that crowded little island?

Most whities seem to be emigrating. No freedom of speech anymore.If you dont agree with the lunatic left then youre considered a 'hate crime ' suspect.

They will turn Trump away but let 50 ISIS loonies cruise straight through the arrivals terminal.