Petition to ban Trump from UK passes 300K, could be debated in Parliament

[impulse]

What a bunch of slackers. A petition to toss him out of the USA would have millions of signatures by now.

And just as much legal effect. Nada. Zero. Zip. (Except for the satisfaction)

How many signatures would a petition to throw Obama out of the USA get?

Relatively little going by the "Impeach Obama President of the United States of America"

Since August 6, 2009 only collected 22,261 signers, which is about 0.0000007% of the US population..

impulse, it should take you about 2.5 hours to count to 22,261.. Not a very high figure - are you on Warfarin?

Nope, Plavix is my anticoagulant of choice. Still I do bleed like a stuck pig.

That's a petition to impeach him, not a wind up to throw him out, which was Topo's question

Also, check your math. I think you slipped a few decimals.

[MrTee]

What a bunch of slackers. A petition to toss him out of the USA would have millions of signatures by now.

And just as much legal effect. Nada. Zero. Zip. (Except for the satisfaction)

How many signatures would a petition to throw Obama out of the USA get?

Relatively little going by the "Impeach Obama President of the United States of America"

Since August 6, 2009 only collected 22,261 signers, which is about 0.0000007% of the US population..

impulse, it should take you about 2.5 hours to count to 22,261.. Not a very high figure - are you on Warfarin?

No, I'm not on Warfarin, but you must be. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment about a hypothetical pole. Impeachments don't normally result in presidents losing office, do they? ... but he's not as popular as you think.

Calm down dear.

He's clearly not as unpopular as you wish him to be.

Edited December 12, 2015 by MrTee

[SABloke]

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[tropo]

Calm down dear.

He's clearly not as unpopular as you wish him to be.

The best way to keep posters calm is to avoid throwing in flame while you're trying to make a point - and you'll get your point across better that way too. Until you started talking about warfarin, your post was quite reasonable.

As an expat from Australia, I have absolutely no feelings one way or another about Obama. i.e. I don't care if he is popular or not, which kind of makes my comments less biased than yours.

... however, I love Trump. I can't ever remember another time where I was even the slightest bit interested in US party nominations. I watch Fox News while I exercise at home, and he makes the time pass faster. Go Trump! I'm rooting for you!

Edited December 12, 2015 by tropo

[55Jay]

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There will be no violence or flare ups, because they are the Religion of peace, remember .

It can flate up racist bigots to to do what they want. Not what muslims might do. Inflaming right wing nutters to cause anyone distress is still violence.

I guess logic is a bit hard for some

Now that's a load of apologist jibberish right there.

Edit/Question: Who would these right wing "nutters" visit their violence upon in the UK?

Assaults or attacks on persons of Muslim Background

Some of those listed, like the egg throwing, may seem trivial; unless you're the victim!

But there are many far more serious examples as well, including assaults which resulted in the death of the victim.

It is not only Muslims who are subjected to this kind of racist violence; Teenage girl who kicked Sikh pensioner, 80, in attack may face new charges after he DIES three months later

Excellent insight into the real UK, point taken. Same krap going on in the US, from the same end of the gene pool.

I still think it's a stretch that chavs, skinheads and assorted houligans, pay attention to US Politics in order to parlay a suggested US Immigration policy from a candidate in a US election campaign, into a reason to attack muslims in the UK.

[tropo]

Excellent insight into the real UK, point taken. Same krap going on in the US, from the same end of the gene pool.

I still think it's a stretch that chavs, skinheads and assorted houligans, pay attention to US Politics in order to parlay a suggested US Immigration policy from a candidate in a US election campaign, into a reason to attack muslims in the UK.

They discussed this petition briefly on Fox News. They drew a comparison to Reagan and how he wasn't very popular overseas, but he got the job done.

[luke000]

I still think it's a stretch that chavs, skinheads and assorted houligans, pay attention to US Politics in order to parlay a suggested US Immigration policy from a candidate in a US election campaign, into a reason to attack muslims in the UK.

He had to say that really though.

Because he keep going on about Muslims being very peaceful .

He then claimed that there could be violence and unrest if Don was allowed in.

Then he said that he meant non Muslims may be violent towards Muslims .

Of course, peaceful people dont cause unrest or be voilent

[uptheos]

The vast majority of the voters were white British citizens. The Muslim leaders have asked that Trump is not banned but on the contrary he should visit the Muslim communities here to see for himself. The lady who started the petition was white, British and a Christian.

Personally I don't think he should be banned from the UK There are plenty of bigoted, racist, sexist morons here already so why ban him? In reality people voted to ban him to show their disgust. I think he should come and see what sort of reception he gets here. I doubt he would stay long

Can you share the link this came from please?

Muslim Council of Britain press release stated they would prefer Trump to be banned from entering UK - IMO not going to happen - went on to say...

We know that Mr Trump does not represent the views of ordinary Americans, and we reject his ignorant remarks suggesting that London has no-go areas where even the police are afraid to enter. Should he be allowed to enter the UK, and if he is able to name such areas, we would be happy to organise a multi-faith delegation to accompany Mr Trump and tour these areas and pay for his lunch.”

http://www.mcb.org.uk/donald-trump-does-not-represent-the-america-we-know/

Right and as if he's going to go walkabout in these areas. If he's serious about the presidency he needs to be alive.

It's OK inviting someone when they know it's just not going to happen, makes them look sooo good.

[MrTee]

Right and as if he's going to go walkabout in these areas. If he's serious about the presidency he needs to be alive.

It's OK inviting someone when they know it's just not going to happen, makes them look sooo good.

Or maybe they know that he could walk along these roads without fear, notwithstanding his recent outburst attacking our people.

I walk around these areas, many of my friends do, even the non-muslim friends I have do, some actually live there.

I grew up in living in one of largest Asian communities in the world outside of Asia..

The only violence I encounter was from drunk English men, and racist violence towards the Irish from children of the drunk English men, and the odd teacher.

I'm often over these so called "no-go" areas of London, and you what, there really is nothing to be afraid of. Just people going about their business, for the most part peacefully.

Does it irk our American cousins that London is a diverse community,

There are over 300 languages spoken in London..

Its France's second largest city.

That's not to say there are not gangs.. If the truth be known it is the gangs that are of concern to the police, and most bothersome to local communities. The gangs are also ethically diverse.

[luke000]

I walk around these areas, many of my friends do, even the non-muslim friends I have do, some actually live there.

I grew up in living in one of largest Asian communities in the world outside of Asia..

The only violence I encounter was from drunk English men, and racist violence towards the Irish from children of the drunk English men, and the odd teacher.

Are you saying that the Asian people are not English ?

[Credo]

Right and as if he's going to go walkabout in these areas. If he's serious about the presidency he needs to be alive.

It's OK inviting someone when they know it's just not going to happen, makes them look sooo good.

Or maybe they know that he could walk along these roads without fear, notwithstanding his recent outburst attacking our people.

I walk around these areas, many of my friends do, even the non-muslim friends I have do, some actually live there.

I grew up in living in one of largest Asian communities in the world outside of Asia..

The only violence I encounter was from drunk English men, and racist violence towards the Irish from children of the drunk English men, and the odd teacher.

I'm often over these so called "no-go" areas of London, and you what, there really is nothing to be afraid of. Just people going about their business, for the most part peacefully.

Does it irk our American cousins that London is a diverse community,

There are over 300 languages spoken in London..

Its France's second largest city.

That's not to say there are not gangs.. If the truth be known it is the gangs that are of concern to the police, and most bothersome to local communities. The gangs are also ethically diverse.

Are you saying that London is France's second largest city?

[MrTee]

Right and as if he's going to go walkabout in these areas. If he's serious about the presidency he needs to be alive.

It's OK inviting someone when they know it's just not going to happen, makes them look sooo good.

Or maybe they know that he could walk along these roads without fear, notwithstanding his recent outburst attacking our people.

I walk around these areas, many of my friends do, even the non-muslim friends I have do, some actually live there.

I grew up in living in one of largest Asian communities in the world outside of Asia..

The only violence I encounter was from drunk English men, and racist violence towards the Irish from children of the drunk English men, and the odd teacher.

I'm often over these so called "no-go" areas of London, and you what, there really is nothing to be afraid of. Just people going about their business, for the most part peacefully.

Does it irk our American cousins that London is a diverse community,

There are over 300 languages spoken in London..

Its France's second largest city.

That's not to say there are not gangs.. If the truth be known it is the gangs that are of concern to the police, and most bothersome to local communities. The gangs are also ethically diverse.

Are you saying that London is France's second largest city?

May bad, France's sixth largest City

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-say-au-revoir-to-france-over-two-million-french-people-now-live-abroad-and-most-are-crossing-9788348.html

I think its more of a saying than a thing..

Just goes to show how easy it is to over estimate the number of immigrants

Edited December 13, 2015 by MrTee

[Richard W]

Donald Trump is Scottish, his mother is from Stornoway on the isle of Lewis.. But you Mr Tee from your "modern Britain" will have no idea where The Isle of Lewis is. Donald (wheres yoor troosers) Trump is more British than most, he can have a British Passport whenever he wants...

First he would have to become a British citizen. He is only entitled to buy British citizenship if he is indeed of good character. If he be of good character, then, as with David Hicks, British citizenship is indeed a right, not a privilege. Even then, he would have no right to a British passport - a British passport is a privilege, not a right.

It is funny to see how so many people who are obviously not American citizens and cannot vote in the United States get so hot and bothered about an American election.

It may have something to do with the fact that the President of the USA could easily get us all killed; he's also regarded, ex officio, the leader of the free world. Our masters would claim that the UK was still part of the free world.

Are you saying that the Asian people are not English ?

A fair few would exclude English-born Jews as well. Am I supposed to count that second generation Scottish immigrant, David Cameron, as English?

[tropo]

Donald Trump is Scottish, his mother is from Stornoway on the isle of Lewis.. But you Mr Tee from your "modern Britain" will have no idea where The Isle of Lewis is. Donald (wheres yoor troosers) Trump is more British than most, he can have a British Passport whenever he wants...

First he would have to become a British citizen. He is only entitled to buy British citizenship if he is indeed of good character. If he be of good character, then, as with David Hicks, British citizenship is indeed a right, not a privilege. Even then, he would have no right to a British passport - a British passport is a privilege, not a right.

Do you really think that if Donald Trump applied for British Citizenship (absurd) he would not get it due to his character? He'd be given the red carpet.

[Grouse]

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Freedom of speech simply has no tradition in Europe.....

You forgot only a few important words:

"Glorification of violence and hate" in freedom of speeck have no tradition in (civilised) Europe, particularly not in Great Britain.

HEAR! HEAR!

[mpa]

...Reagan and how he wasn't very popular overseas, but he got the job done.

Not to mention he tripled the national dept.

[tropo]

...Reagan and how he wasn't very popular overseas, but he got the job done.

Not to mention he tripled the national dept.

I should have mentioned, that is what the Fox News staff were saying, not me. As a non-American I didn't follow his presidency very closely as that was back in pre-Internet days when info (other than the basic news) was hard to come by.

On this list, Obama is #10 and Reagan #4 in rating modern day US presidents for popularity.

http://us-presidents.insidegov.com/stories/3995/ranking-modern-us-presidents#4-barack-obama

Edited December 14, 2015 by tropo

[Richard W]

Do you really think that if Donald Trump applied for British Citizenship (absurd) he would not get it due to his character? He'd be given the red carpet.

I think there would be a strong possibility of refusal. His business dealings as recorded in the English-language Wikipedia feel dodgy, and he doesn't have a good business press.