joboss Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Young people do this all over the world. Get over yourselves those giving the big adult lecture. I did similar stuff when I was a teen. Did I continue with that irresponsible type behaviour. No. It's a tragic event and sadly will probably continue. I agree with you Jacksam. Gotta give Dawinism a chance. Also I know there's some luck in the equation too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 My thoughts are with the family. My disgust is with those whose sanctimonious comments and holier than thou attitude sucks. A 17 year old died doing what many young kids here do. It is NOT Europe or America, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 While in many ways I do agree with some of the points mentioned, unfortunately many people out there are, or have been in their youth guilty of the same crimes; (and I do include myself) an old saying is that the "Guilty part in committing any crime is getting caught" this is just a very unfortunate way of getting caught..!!! and my respects go to his family, I'm sure this outcome was not planned. But the stupidity is avoidable! Where there is a will there is a way - but no will (in this case) and you're on your way (out). Condolences to families and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Som nam nah. And I have very little sympathy for the parents either. When I was 17 I was living at home with my parents, didn't have a motorbike (parents wouldn't buy me one till I was older and more mature), and if they smelt alcohol on my breath, there was hell to pay. I brought up my 3 kids in a similar manner, they are all in their mid- to late 20s now, none has a drink or drugs problem, and they now express gratitude that I had the strength to say No when they were going to do something stupid in their teens. Too many parents can't be bothered with good parenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Parents not learning their children simple like right from wrong and what is acceptable behaviour sadly too late now to have a word saying drink and driving can be dangerous not acceptable and people die because of this even when we all know that being 17 year old is bullet proof age, will never happen to me. RIP to the deceased and hope the serious injured can make a full recovery from the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) "The driver of the truck, involved in the crash, decided not to remain at the scene, despite Police apportioning no blame on him whatsoever." "He will be located and interviewed by Police at a later date" Edited January 17, 2016 by iReason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Parenting Fail. Society Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 He paid the ultimate price for drinking&riding. Why do so many Thai's hold their life in such low esteem? Then with the 3 almost magical "Mai Pen Rai"words,everything is forgotten and suddenly ok again. Very sad.RIP. it's not just Thai kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Young people do this all over the world. Get over yourselves those giving the big adult lecture. I did similar stuff when I was a teen. Did I continue with that irresponsible type behaviour. No. It's a tragic event and sadly will probably continue. Of course, all teens around the World are doing the same, but that doesn't justify it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 He paid the ultimate price for drinking&riding. Why do so many Thai's hold their life in such low esteem? Then with the 3 almost magical "Mai Pen Rai"words,everything is forgotten and suddenly ok again. Very sad.RIP. weren't you ever 17 years old ? It can't happen to me is what it's all about at that age otherwise you would never get anyone to join the army in the event of war. At that age i have been just as stupid as i am sure many others on this forum have, i think back on my exploits as a teenager and fear for my son. Sheeshh by the sound of it Im the only teenager here who didnt do this sort of thing as for many here it appears "normal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Here is an idea: A 17 year old guy has died driving whilst drunk. This is a perfect chance to tell the world how great my parents were and how wonderful I was as a parent and BONUS we can be judge jury and executioner of the family. Hey, don't worry that we have no information or knowledge about their parenting, their family or even the poor lad who died this is a hell of an opportunity to show how superior us westerners are. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 There seems to be a disconnect between observing of laws and the reasons those laws exist (even if not enforced). Drunk driving is illegal because of impairment of judgement and ability. Drinking age because many young people have not developed enough sense regarding drinking (many older ones too, but that is another subject). Speeding is illegal because of safety concerns. Seems none of this sinks in to alleged consciousness and rather see it as a game to outwit the authorities. Helmets lessen chance of severe injury or death. This is not limited to Thais, I see plenty of stupid farangs without helmets, driving against traffic, drinking etc. Most are old enough to have already passed on their stupid habits and genes, so no Darwin awards if they check out of this life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) My heart goes out to the parents. I lost a 14 y.o. son, and once they are gone the reason doesn't matter. Life will not be the same for the parents. The same parents that allow their kids to own and ride motorcycles? I am not sure of the age requirements, but I do see many kids riding to school that are obviously to young to do so, many without helmets. And some kids even driving cars to school at the age of 12 (There is a video of a young girl driving herself to school... I wont post it, as I am not sure the video posting rules here) And a post about the education starting at school... The schools allow the underage kids ride to school and without helmets.. so where does the education start? Edited January 17, 2016 by thhMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I see many comments saying sadness is felt for the parents. Surely, parental influence here is to blame, i.e. not warning of the dangers of drink and riding a bike, let alone it is breaking the law. And who bought the motor-bikes for the kids ? probably the parents. Had the kids sufficient instruction / training beforehand ? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Parents are to blame.... Whose dumber the dead kid or his friends unable to keep up with him? Fortunately he didn't hurt any other innocent victims... Will his friends learn? Doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bottom line: Another day, another senseless death that didn't have to happen, but it did. Who is to blame?Kids? Parents? Teachers? Cops? All the above. Stay tuned, as today, tomorrow, or the next day, it will happen all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconvalley Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Wow.... I am so confused with this country. I have my 15 year old Thai son with me... The Goal, a. Open your eyes and look for areas of improvement. aa. Place: Cheap Rooms Guesthouse in Patong. Job: Iron sheets. Problem: He leaves the iron on, and does not turn it off when he finishes. Fix: Training... I do not love my son, but I love my son. This is how I can improve us.... Act like a father... ANSWER. The children need parenting. But I was once told, I do not have the chops.... Well, they are probably right....Either way, we in Patong are trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 16, partying and drunk, then riding their bike home and speeding. Sounds very similar to me back in the day. Such a waste of a young life but I think little changes over the years. It's funny how once we have kids of our own we suddenly get "holier than thou" and lecture them about the things we all did at their age. I know I do it everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crutchy26 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Another idiot removed from the gene pool. Under-age drinking. No license (?) No safety gear. Wrong place Recipe for removal! But we have more (of the above) and no-one cares. Where is the education, experience & law enforcement? Shakes head, will see the same, ditto, ditto, every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malt25 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Would I be right in assuming all the friends that were riding bikes and admitted to drinking will now be charged with underage drinking and drunk driving? And the people that supplied them with alcohol are charged too? You think !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante7 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 To be honest most Thai drivers and motor cycle riders here in Thailand are just as stupid as he was ,for most the lights are on but nobody's home But if the lights are off then they will save on the cost of a new bulb, which it seems is why they don't use their lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 poor silly boy. paid the highest price. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelman868 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Is it any wonder? I live in Isaan and try to stay off the roads after dark, 4 drunk kids on a bike, no lights, showing off, recipe for disaster and death. driving with no lights is common in the villages as the police NEVER check the vehicles and in any case do not work after dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Any life lost at 17 for any reason, is tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 To be honest most Thai drivers and motor cycle riders here in Thailand are just as stupid as he was ,for most the lights are on but nobody's home +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 R.I.P. Not bashing! This problem goes deep, deep into the Thai Culture and is more wide spread than many of us want to believe. The Thai home and parents especially the lower income and less educated is rampant that the kids are allow to get a taste of alcohol as young as 10 years old especially the male. It is like a badge of honor to the family to raise them in this manner? I've come to realize from what I've seen first hand that Thai are not bad people they just do not know any other way of raising children except how they were raise by their own parents. This is why when a topic like this is brought up I hear " Same " I wonder silently if everyone knows it is " Same " why isn't it changed? It is not rocket science to figure out if adults provide this type of example, drinking and driving after you drink, allow for sale of alcohol to minors, allow minors to operate motor vehicles at any hour with no concept of a curfew what the results is going to be. The worse is all the half ass attempt by the leaders of this government to fix all these problem. I use Hwy 7, this stretch day and night, it is getting worse especially the big bikes,,, Drivers seem to think the better the bike they need to go faster because that is why the bike was made. Cases like this is not the beginning and it will not be the end.. In Pattaya, it goes on 24/7 kids all underage not going to school, not going home, but pool their money and resources together to buy alcohol. Everyday to them is Songkran and guess what Songkran is in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norvid 1950 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 These should be posted in schools: https://www.facebook.com/loverayongclub/photos/pcb.919770918138687/919770648138714/?type=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 glad he didn't hurt an innocent human but he did , his passenger . No his passenger wasn't innocent. He was stupid and irresponsible to himself to climb on the back of the idiot's bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemguy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yes sir and another one bites the dust. Sad really... But theses sort of tragic end to things do tend to happen when motorcycles and alcohol and girls and male bravado are all mixed together. RIP Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bet that pick-up driver, despite being blameless here, was well smashed. Hence the rapido departure from the scene. He could see bad things happening if he stuck around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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