Super Tuesday: Clinton, Trump look to pull away from rivals

[Ulysses G.]

Amazing over time how certain people just crank it out.

It's all about quantity to 'em.

Is that a confession?

[Publicus]

Amazing over time how certain people just crank it out.

It's all about quantity to 'em.

Is that a confession?

The tired old turn the tables stuff is really stale dude, not to mention glib and banal. Try something new plse thx. If that might be possible.

[lannarebirth]

This is what a typical Clinton corporate tie looks like, with the typical outcome:

http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-futures-scandal-still-relevant-today-2016-2

They got this part partially wrong...

"Today, we tend to dismiss these scandals as irrelevant because they mostly involved sex, were exaggerated by partisan Republicans and were mostly related to actions taken by Bill Clinton, ..."

Bill's scandals involved sex, everything else involved Hillary; those cattle futures, Vince Foster, Travelgate, secret Hillarycare meetings, etc.

Hillary's shadiness pre-dates Benghazi and emails by decades. So I think it is a good idea to educate the young and forgetful older people of ALL her past scandals.

There are indeed many scandals. Some pre-date Clinton's presidency, all during his presidency and many after. Hillary had a hand in most of them. And what seems to me, an inordinate amount of acquaintances that ended up dead. I'd like to see a statistics professor tackle that one and see how many standard deviations removed the Clintons are from the norm as to deaths of close acquaintances.

[attrayant]

That's strong evidence that there's no loyalty or excitement toward Hillary in traditional Democrat strongholds. Those people will sit on their butts in the general and yawn while the R's continue to draw record crowds.

This is fatal for the Dems. Voter apathy from the Dems coupled with record determination by the R's is disaster for the Dems.

There's some voter apathy out there, but it's not where you think it is:

#NeverTrump Hash Tag Trends Worldwide In Revolt Against Donald Trump

On Friday, thousands spoke out on Twitter, vowing to never vote for him.

These are republicans - mostly Cruz voters - who have pledged to vote for either Hillary or nobody at all if Trump should win the nomination. Ted Cruz Voters Explain Why They’ll Never Vote Trump:

"He has no business being in charge of our country,” said Jason Siebold, 44, a Houston resident for the last 12 years. Wearing a Cruz T-shirt[.] Siebold said he’d sooner vote for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton than Trump. “Quite honestly, I would probably vote for Hillary Clinton before I would vote for Donald Trump, because I think Donald Trump is going to destroy the Republican party,” he said.

[attrayant]

There are indeed many scandals. Some pre-date Clinton's presidency, all during his presidency and many after. Hillary had a hand in most of them. And what seems to me, an inordinate amount of acquaintances that ended up dead. I'd like to see a statistics professor tackle that one and see how many standard deviations removed the Clintons are from the norm as to deaths of close acquaintances.

If the only thing left to do is dig up old skeletons that have already been dug up and picked clean thrice before, then those people are all out of ammunition. Trying to breathe life into some twenty-year old "scandal" is going to be met with little more than eye rolling. Most of these got traction purely from whisper campaigns. Here they are: (warning: link is to World Net Daily - make sure your anti-cootie vaccinations are up to date before visiting.)

1. IRS audits

2. Covering Bill's dirty deeds

3. Looting the White House

4. Filegate: FBI files on GOP enemies

5. Muslim Brotherhood Princess

6. Vince Foster

7. Emailgate

8. Sale of secrets to China

9. Travelgate

10. Whitewater

11. Landing under sniper fire in Bosnia

12. Missing law firm billing records

13. Senate contributions

14. Cattle futures

15. Clinton body count

16. Saul Alinsky

17. Defends a child rapist

18. Iran fundraising

19. Clinton Foundation

20. Benghazi

21. Peter Franklin Paul

22. Watergate

*Yawn*

Many of these are manufacturversies and stale, rehashed gossip. On the other hand, we're just beginning to learn about Trump. His skeletons are still fresh, with lots of meat still on the bones.

[Rancid]

Well, the New York Times is questioning whether the neocons are getting ready to ally with Hillary Clinton:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html

Is so then one wonders why those that brought us so may wars of liberation and freedom would be supporting a Democrat?

Is is because she was largely behind the Syrian conflict:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html

Or according to the New York Times that Clinton is responsible the violent regime change in Libya:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html

Also according to Gail Sheehy’s book, Hillary convinced her reluctant husband President Bill Clinton to unleash the 78-day NATO bombing campaign against the Serbs.

Perhaps it doesn't take much imagination to see whether more wars defending democracy will be coming under President Hillary.

[Publicus]

Barney Rubble looks on as Fred Flintstone announces his appointing of Barney as White Horse press secretary.

[Enoon]

I'm a "special relation", so I don't really know how the numbers actually work when all the counting is finished, but would the current Party vote on the International TV survey get the presidency for the Democrats?:

Democrats: 53.28%

Republicans: 46.72%

[keemapoot]

Barney Rubble looks on as Fred Flintstone announces his appointing of Barney as White Horse press secretary.

Yeah, they had a tweetfest with that look of resignation in Christie's face. Looks like he will be reduced to keeping Trump's shoes shiny or something similar. He's not a happy camper, but he had to do the right thing to advance his career.

[mopar71]

This is what a typical Clinton corporate tie looks like, with the typical outcome:

http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-futures-scandal-still-relevant-today-2016-2

They got this part partially wrong...

"Today, we tend to dismiss these scandals as irrelevant because they mostly involved sex, were exaggerated by partisan Republicans and were mostly related to actions taken by Bill Clinton, ..."

Bill's scandals involved sex, everything else involved Hillary; those cattle futures, Vince Foster, Travelgate, secret Hillarycare meetings, etc.

Hillary's shadiness pre-dates Benghazi and emails by decades. So I think it is a good idea to educate the young and forgetful older people of ALL her past scandals.

There are indeed many scandals. Some pre-date Clinton's presidency, all during his presidency and many after. Hillary had a hand in most of them. And what seems to me, an inordinate amount of acquaintances that ended up dead. I'd like to see a statistics professor tackle that one and see how many standard deviations removed the Clintons are from the norm as to deaths of close acquaintances.

I wonder who had a longer life expectancy: Friends of the Clintons in the 80s-90s, or drunken tourists in Thailand riding motorbikes for the first time in their lives.

[Publicus]

Barney Rubble looks on as Fred Flintstone announces his appointing of Barney as White Horse press secretary.

Yeah, they had a tweetfest with that look of resignation in Christie's face. Looks like he will be reduced to keeping Trump's shoes shiny or something similar. He's not a happy camper, but he had to do the right thing to advance his career.

Saw NJ former Gov. Christie Todd Whitman on tv last night during which interview she said that as an R she cannot vote for Trump for Potus and that Chris Christie is already taking serious career gas for his endorsement of The Donald. Whitman speaks for at least 20% of Republicans according the consistent reputable polling.

The Fat Man has anyway spent his public career, unless Trump does appoint him campaign press secretary or somesuch because after the November election neither Trump nor Christie will get into the White House except as tourists or in disguise as Mexican rapists.

Cruz is btw the up front ideological and philosophical conservative in the race and is rather conspicuous about it, not to mention tinny loud. Yet Cruz wins three or four states (as of the present) while finishing 2nd or 3rd most of the time. Combine the R primary and caucus voting between Rubio and now Kasich and we see It's a strange but true thought that most Republicans remain somewhat conservative. They're just not the hair on fire ideological conservatives so many people think they are.

Indeed among Republicans, the loudest and most conspicuous attention getters are instead the numbnut losers voting for Trump or the fringe extremist lunar crackpots who post ferociously to Internet discussion boards. Nothing to fear in that, given the vast majority of the American electorate are, rather, moderate, centrist, broadly middle of the political road voters who run screaming from candidates like Trump and Barry Goldwater before him.

So recognising many if not most Republicans are somewhat conservative or moderate conservative might help explain why Rubio can manage to get some votes recently after Christie and Bush are out, and why Kasich can catch attention, most recently with some success in certain states where he campaigned hard with a great focus. Both of 'em come up short but nobody's more out of it than is Ben Carson who remains the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde having fun by day and secretly laffing while burning other people's money at night.

The really comical factor in all of this is however that Trump and the R party have created their own trained growling dogs of anger and fear who actually and really believe Trump can and shall do everything he's talking about and promising to do no sweat; guaranteeing it. In the meantime, almost everyone laffs off Bernie Sanders as spreading pixie dust. This is a truly whacked out campaign over there on the Republican farside.

[JHolmesJr]

Christie is a mole planted by the Republican top brass….I hope Mr Trump does not let him into any strategy secrets.

[ToS2014]

Personally, I think it would be scary to see Trump as the next POTUS, scarier would be another Clinton.

[keemapoot]

Christie is a mole planted by the Republican top brass….I hope Mr Trump does not let him into any strategy secrets.

You sure you got the right side he's spying for?

[lannarebirth]

There are indeed many scandals. Some pre-date Clinton's presidency, all during his presidency and many after. Hillary had a hand in most of them. And what seems to me, an inordinate amount of acquaintances that ended up dead. I'd like to see a statistics professor tackle that one and see how many standard deviations removed the Clintons are from the norm as to deaths of close acquaintances.

If the only thing left to do is dig up old skeletons that have already been dug up and picked clean thrice before, then those people are all out of ammunition. Trying to breathe life into some twenty-year old "scandal" is going to be met with little more than eye rolling. Most of these got traction purely from whisper campaigns. Here they are: (warning: link is to World Net Daily - make sure your anti-cootie vaccinations are up to date before visiting.)

1. IRS audits

2. Covering Bill's dirty deeds

3. Looting the White House

4. Filegate: FBI files on GOP enemies

5. Muslim Brotherhood Princess

6. Vince Foster

7. Emailgate

8. Sale of secrets to China

9. Travelgate

10. Whitewater

11. Landing under sniper fire in Bosnia

12. Missing law firm billing records

13. Senate contributions

14. Cattle futures

15. Clinton body count

16. Saul Alinsky

17. Defends a child rapist

18. Iran fundraising

19. Clinton Foundation

20. Benghazi

21. Peter Franklin Paul

22. Watergate

*Yawn*

Many of these are manufacturversies and stale, rehashed gossip. On the other hand, we're just beginning to learn about Trump. His skeletons are still fresh, with lots of meat still on the bones.

Oh yeah, its going to be ugly, from both sides. Your list leaves out several scandals I'm aware of and added a few I'd not heard about.

[Linzz]

We really are watching the meltdown and disintegration of the GOP. It's about damn time. Now, we need to dismantle the Dems too.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/analysis-super-tuesday-bringing-super-meltdown-republican-party-203036054.html

Radical stuff, smashing both political parties simultaneously.

So let's slow down a bit on the Democratic side. There's plenty of life left in the ol' gal yet...oldest continuous political party in the US. Twenty years older than the Republican gone old party.

R Sen Linsey Graham of SC got it right the other day: "My party has gone batshit crazy."

This will bring on a hail of bash Hillary posts at the threads for the next six hours but that happens anyway so here goes....

'My party has gone bats--- crazy': GOP lawmakers are freaked out about Trump

Fear and loathing is striking congressional Republicans faced with the distinct possibility of Donald Trump as their presidential nominee.

"My party has gone batshit crazy," says South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who called Trump a "nut job" and maintains that the billionaire businessman would inflict as much damage to the GOP as the iceberg did to the Titanic.

Republicans share a palpable fear that Trump would alienate Hispanics, minorities, independents and women, driving them to vote Democratic in November and costing the GOP the presidency, its Senate majority and suddenly competitive House seats. With the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, the ideological balance of the Supreme Court for decades also is at stake.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-fear-and-loathing-over-trump-among-gop-in-congress-2016-2

Sixty-six percent of Trump voters believe President Obama is a Muslim. Sixty percent of Trump supporters believe Barack Obama was born outside the United States. Ninety-nine percent of Trump supporters are lunatics (that one is my own stat ).

GOP RIP.

For once I can agree with Publicus that the GOP is in danger.But only up to that point.

If they don't listen to the voters but adhere to what they believe is politically correct then they have failed to be in any way democratic. Which means that Sen. Graham is undemocratic and is not listening to the people and doesn't want to believe in a sea change.

Finally a 3rd party could be born and not before time. Tweedle dum and tweedle dee politics has to come to an end and it must eventually. RIP the dynasties of Bush and Clinton too, a curse on both their houses.

[chuckd]

Now this is interesting. I never knew there were 20,000 intelligent individuals that had ever come out of MA.

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Many Mass. Democrats Switched To Republican Party Ahead Of Super Tuesday

March 1, 2016 11:10 AM By Carl Stevens

BOSTON (CBS) — Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin told WBZ NewsRadio 1030’s Carl Stevens that he’s seen a lot of the state’s registered Democrats leave the party and become unenrolled ahead of the Super Tuesday primary–and that some voters had gone even further.

“In fact, we’ve seen a significant number of people leaving the Democratic party and joining the Republican party,” said Galvin.

Galvin said he is predicting a big Republican turnout at the polls Tuesday.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/01/many-mass-democrats-switched-to-republican-party-ahead-of-super-tuesday/

[Grouse]

Several senior Republicans interviewed on BBC Radio 4 Today program. ALL worried about Trump. Could he possibly be stopped? Doomsday scenario is encouraging Republicans to vote Democrat! Astonishing!

[Linzz]

Several senior Republicans interviewed on BBC Radio 4 Today program. ALL worried about Trump. Could he possibly be stopped? Doomsday scenario is encouraging Republicans to vote Democrat! Astonishing!

Politicians who fear for their comfortable careers

[boomerangutang]

Barney Rubble looks on as Fred Flintstone announces his appointing of Barney as White Horse press secretary.

It would be interesting to see some details of how those two were involved with Atlantic City. It was once a sleepy beach town. Then it legalized gambling (first place east of the Mississippi to do so). Trump came down to build big casinos and make as much money as possible, while declaring bankruptcy every so often, and bullying bankers who asked for loans to be paid back. When it became clear that none of the casino owners were going to do what they promised (support local schools, etc) and casinos started going belly-up one by one (Including Trump's, by bad management), NJ governor Christy showed up and declared HE and the state of NJ would take over. Things continued to go downhill for the casinos and the town. Now the two buddies in mischief are standing on political stages acting like they're going to fix America. ha ha ha. If/when the American people see the truth behind those two mafia-wannabes, they might better assess how to vote.

[keemapoot]

Several senior Republicans interviewed on BBC Radio 4 Today program. ALL worried about Trump. Could he possibly be stopped? Doomsday scenario is encouraging Republicans to vote Democrat! Astonishing!

That's a pretty interesting and plausible last ditch poison pill or scorched earth strategy if somehow Trump gets the nomination. Do anything to keep Trump from redefining their party.

"Give the election to the Dems, work like the devil to get Hilary done in 4 or worse, and then reconstruct the party along establishment, tea party and other coalition lines."

[Publicus]

Now this is interesting. I never knew there were 20,000 intelligent individuals that had ever come out of MA.

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Many Mass. Democrats Switched To Republican Party Ahead Of Super Tuesday

March 1, 2016 11:10 AM By Carl Stevens

BOSTON (CBS) — Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin told WBZ NewsRadio 1030’s Carl Stevens that he’s seen a lot of the state’s registered Democrats leave the party and become unenrolled ahead of the Super Tuesday primary–and that some voters had gone even further.

“In fact, we’ve seen a significant number of people leaving the Democratic party and joining the Republican party,” said Galvin.

Galvin said he is predicting a big Republican turnout at the polls Tuesday.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/01/many-mass-democrats-switched-to-republican-party-ahead-of-super-tuesday/

Forget it.

This is what I wrote yesterday to NS at another thread about Trump in a poll and second place when NS made the same similar and like post there as you have done here....do try to keep up plse thx.

Massachusetts Vote Potus 2012

Obama 1.9 million votes = 61%

Romney 1.1 million votes = 38%

Trump needs a complete turnaround of one million votes in Massachusetts in November to win the solid Blue state. That would mean one-third of the total Massachusetts electorate switching over to the enemy. Lemme say it again, Forget It.

Same for the other solid Blue states and Blue leaning states.

Pennsylvania for instance (strongly) leans Blue. Here's the 2012 PA Potus election result:

Obama 2.9 million votes = 52%

Romney 2.6 million votes = 47%.

In PA Trump in November (or any R for Potus) needs to swing 300,000 votes to the R and add another one percent of the PA total electorate for a minimal good margin or measure. That means changing up to 400,000 voters to the other side in PA. That's five percent of the PA total electorate. The mountain here is high.

PA has not voted R for Potus since 1988. When Bill Clinton in 1992 started PA on its current Blue state status, he got 50.6% of the state's vote. Barack Obama in 2012 got 52.0%. This not only is a trend, it is a significant and sustained trend.

The numbers cited in MA don't support a voter reversal in MA. Nor do they suggest a voter revrsal PA. Even if the reversal data of today might be a trend in this election, it is a small and electorally insignificant development. The Trump fanboyz need to recognise Trump or any wildman candidate like him repells the vast moderate and centrist mass of voters who are the middle and who when they are in an unusually broad agreement will blow your guy out.

Many Republicans recognise this. It's the far right that is out there about it; the farther out right fails to recognise it and the fringe wingnuts miss it completely. Think Sen Barry Goldwater in 1964 cause reality is, well, real. Always has been.

Lotta intelligent people in and emergine from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts if I don't mind saying so myself. Taking the one page from your book about it that isn't wrong wrong wrong that's all.

[Jingthing]

Congratulations to the first woman president of the USA -- Hillary Rodham Clinton.

It was a historically good day for her.

She's well on her way towards being nominated against worthy and honorable opponent Bernie Sanders.

Sure the vast majority of Sanders supportes will be on board with HRC in general.

Why?

Well, overwhelming enthusiasm, not so much, but there will be massive enthusiasm to block the apparent republican nominee, the distressingly dangerous psychopathic demagogue, Donald (Trumpf) Trump.

The general election starts today.

It's the sensible and solid ship of state Clinton vs. the Somali pirate ship, the Donald.

[Ulic]

I have to say, I think the West has been sold a bill of goods on the free trade deals. US

corporations closing production lines moving then to Mexico and China and importing

the products back tariff free helps the workers in China and Mexico and the US businesses.

Yes it makes for lower prices in the US but with no jobs there is only short term benefit.

Corporations make off like bandits, the middle class, not so much. Go Trump.

[Jingthing]

Yeah go Trump to hire more illegal aliens for his business empire. What a con man.

He is funny though.

He tends to make things sound obscene.

HRC has been testing a comeback to his Make America Great Again, with Make America Whole Again (away from the deep divisions that Trump is cynically exploiting).

Trump's response is to sarcastically pronounce Whole in a way that sounds like he's saying HOLE as in ARSE HOLE.

Then feigning ignorance saying he doesn't know what she means, to Make America Whole Again.

I predict HRC will drop that slogan. It plays into Trump's game too much.

Yes, he's going to be a formidable and outrageous opponent indeed. Happily, the democrats are ready for that. The republicans realized it TOO LATE.

[nottocus]

Go you good thing!

[NeverSure]

Now this is interesting. I never knew there were 20,000 intelligent individuals that had ever come out of MA.

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Many Mass. Democrats Switched To Republican Party Ahead Of Super Tuesday

March 1, 2016 11:10 AM By Carl Stevens

BOSTON (CBS) — Massachusetts Secretary of State Bill Galvin told WBZ NewsRadio 1030’s Carl Stevens that he’s seen a lot of the state’s registered Democrats leave the party and become unenrolled ahead of the Super Tuesday primary–and that some voters had gone even further.

“In fact, we’ve seen a significant number of people leaving the Democratic party and joining the Republican party,” said Galvin.

Galvin said he is predicting a big Republican turnout at the polls Tuesday.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/01/many-mass-democrats-switched-to-republican-party-ahead-of-super-tuesday/

Forget it.

This is what I wrote yesterday to NS at another thread about Trump in a poll and second place when NS made the same similar and like post there as you have done here....do try to keep up plse thx.

Massachusetts Vote Potus 2012

Obama 1.9 million votes = 61%

Romney 1.1 million votes = 38%

Trump needs a complete turnaround of one million votes in Massachusetts in November to win the solid Blue state. That would mean one-third of the total Massachusetts electorate switching over to the enemy. Lemme say it again, Forget It.

Same for the other solid Blue states and Blue leaning states.

Pennsylvania for instance (strongly) leans Blue. Here's the 2012 PA Potus election result:

Obama 2.9 million votes = 52%

Romney 2.6 million votes = 47%.

In PA Trump in November (or any R for Potus) needs to swing 300,000 votes to the R and add another one percent of the PA total electorate for a minimal good margin or measure. That means changing up to 400,000 voters to the other side in PA. That's five percent of the PA total electorate. The mountain here is high.

PA has not voted R for Potus since 1988. When Bill Clinton in 1992 started PA on its current Blue state status, he got 50.6% of the state's vote. Barack Obama in 2012 got 52.0%. This not only is a trend, it is a significant and sustained trend.

The numbers cited in MA don't support a voter reversal in MA. Nor do they suggest a voter revrsal PA. Even if the reversal data of today might be a trend in this election, it is a small and electorally insignificant development. The Trump fanboyz need to recognise Trump or any wildman candidate like him repells the vast moderate and centrist mass of voters who are the middle and who when they are in an unusually broad agreement will blow your guy out.

Many Republicans recognise this. It's the far right that is out there about it; the farther out right fails to recognise it and the fringe wingnuts miss it completely. Think Sen Barry Goldwater in 1964 cause reality is, well, real. Always has been.

Lotta intelligent people in and emergine from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts if I don't mind saying so myself. Taking the one page from your book about it that isn't wrong wrong wrong that's all.

Congratulations to the first woman president of the USA -- Hillary Rodham Clinton.

It was a historically good day for her.

She's well on her way towards being nominated against worthy and honorable opponent Bernie Sanders.

Sure the vast majority of Sanders supportes will be on board with HRC in general.

Why?

Well, overwhelming enthusiasm, not so much, but there will be massive enthusiasm to block the apparent republican nominee, the distressingly dangerous psychopathic demagogue, Donald (Trumpf) Trump.

The general election starts today.

It's the sensible and solid ship of state Clinton vs. the Somali pirate ship, the Donald.

Hillary got a worse state split than Trump did even though she had just one opponent, and a tired old socialist at that. Bernie won 4 states to Hillary's 7.

Trump won 7 states while competing against a field of candidates. Cruz was expected to win his home state of Texas which elected him to the Senate, so no surprise.

Pay no attention to Hillary "winning" against a Bernie. Pay attention when she runs up against the Trump.

[Jingthing]

Trump's hostile (and sarcastic) takeover of the republican party almost done.

He's shown his cards now though.
The democrats are ready.

[Publicus]

We really are watching the meltdown and disintegration of the GOP. It's about damn time. Now, we need to dismantle the Dems too.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/analysis-super-tuesday-bringing-super-meltdown-republican-party-203036054.html

Radical stuff, smashing both political parties simultaneously.

So let's slow down a bit on the Democratic side. There's plenty of life left in the ol' gal yet...oldest continuous political party in the US. Twenty years older than the Republican gone old party.

R Sen Linsey Graham of SC got it right the other day: "My party has gone batshit crazy."

This will bring on a hail of bash Hillary posts at the threads for the next six hours but that happens anyway so here goes....

'My party has gone bats--- crazy': GOP lawmakers are freaked out about Trump

Fear and loathing is striking congressional Republicans faced with the distinct possibility of Donald Trump as their presidential nominee.

"My party has gone batshit crazy," says South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who called Trump a "nut job" and maintains that the billionaire businessman would inflict as much damage to the GOP as the iceberg did to the Titanic.

Republicans share a palpable fear that Trump would alienate Hispanics, minorities, independents and women, driving them to vote Democratic in November and costing the GOP the presidency, its Senate majority and suddenly competitive House seats. With the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, the ideological balance of the Supreme Court for decades also is at stake.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-fear-and-loathing-over-trump-among-gop-in-congress-2016-2

Sixty-six percent of Trump voters believe President Obama is a Muslim. Sixty percent of Trump supporters believe Barack Obama was born outside the United States. Ninety-nine percent of Trump supporters are lunatics (that one is my own stat ).

GOP RIP.

For once I can agree with Publicus that the GOP is in danger.But only up to that point.

If they don't listen to the voters but adhere to what they believe is politically correct then they have failed to be in any way democratic. Which means that Sen. Graham is undemocratic and is not listening to the people and doesn't want to believe in a sea change.

Finally a 3rd party could be born and not before time. Tweedle dum and tweedle dee politics has to come to an end and it must eventually. RIP the dynasties of Bush and Clinton too, a curse on both their houses.

Seem to recall 5th grade primary class civics time when the teacher made the point that in a democracy the majority isn't always right. Bummer. But true.

No problem in this instance however as the losers supporting Trump are a minority fraction of the whole electorate. They combined with the rightwhingenut loser demographic hit their political ceiling in the mid thirtieth percentile.

Recall the rightwhingenut Sen Barry Goldwater got 38.5 percent of the popular vote when in he and his fellow crackpots seized control of the Republican party in 1964 to get the senator nominated.

Half the R party back then bailed on Goldwater so the wingnut got his arse whupped by the vast and broad moderate electoral middle throughout the country. Goldwater won the five states of the Confederate deep South plus his own far right state of Arizona for a total of six states won.

Sen Graham was commenting on the whole of the Trump phenomenon, not the broad and centrist US electorate.

Go thee and prepare thyself. For my cup runneth over.

[NeverSure]

It looks like Trump won Virginia which gives him 8 states.