Kenny202 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Bit confused as to when to cut slits in the top of the bread. I've been doing it after the second rise just before putting the loaves in the oven but then of course the loaf deflates and I get scones. What's the correct procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I do mine at the pre oven stage like you and have no issues. I use a very sharp knife and score the loaf so there is minimal pressure applied to the dough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Do u wet ur knife? Even with a razor sharp box cutter I just seem to drag the dough around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schondie Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Agree with above. After the second rise gently make the slits across the top. A sharp knife won't stick to the dough and drag it across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. I do it the same way at 50 degrees. Just before I put them in the oven, I slit... with a sharp knife, that is paramount. For years I used the wrong sharpeners, now I found a good one at Lazada, here. Edited March 8, 2016 by Dario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Probably letting it rise too long the second time. Before starting to bake: You need to test the dough itself for its condition by doing the "poke test." Poke your finger into the dough to make a 1/2" indentation and watch for how well the indentation fills back in. If it fills in quickly, dough is not risen enough; if it doesn't fill in at all, dough has risen too much (best to deflate/punch down and start again). You are looking for the point at which the dough springs back slowly and partially, that means your dough has risen just enough to be ready for baking. Once you've figured out how long this process takes for a particular dough in your kitchen at a given temperature, then you can go by time, but it's best to still monitor the dough. Edited March 9, 2016 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerger Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 where the best place to buy yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantex Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) where the best place to buy yeastIf you have a bakery nearby, ask them for some as their turn over of yeast will be better than what you can buy in the shops and you'll get fresher yeast. Edited March 9, 2016 by Bantex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantex Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Bit confused as to when to cut slits in the top of the bread. I've been doing it after the second rise just before putting the loaves in the oven but then of course the loaf deflates and I get scones. What's the correct procedure? How deep are you cutting the slits and what is the temperature of the oven when you put the bread in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piusmann Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just after you form the loaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piusmann Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeast (dry) Makro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 where the best place to buy yeast Makro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. I agree, it also control your temperature better. When it rise outside the temperature will vary and thus the rising time. If it rise inside the oven the temperature is more constant and the rising time to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why bother with the slits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 where the best place to buy yeast I buy the large 500g packets of dried yeast in Makro. I split it into 4 of those small plastic hermetic containers of which I freeze 3 and keep 1 in the fridge. Then I progressively move the other 3 to the fridge for use as needed. Lasts for months with no apparent loss of vigour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why bother with the slits? It allows the dough to expand in a controlled way rather than just bursting apart willy-nilly. And it looks nice! http://www.thefreshloaf.com/handbook/scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmajor Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. I do it the same way at 50 degrees. Just before I put them in the oven, I slit... with a sharp knife, that is paramount. For years I used the wrong sharpeners, now I found a good one at Lazada, here. 20160203_112818z.jpg IMG_5564z.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmajor Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Dario, that bread looks fantastic. I would be eternally grateful if you shared the recipe and method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 At the beginning or end of second rising is usual. As said, overrisen dough will collapse. Rolling the dough into a baguette shape or round, try to give it some wound up tension with your hands so it will expand along the shape you gave it. You should do this even if you put it into a loaf pan. Egg white wash often brushed on top of the loaf before the slits are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I was just smiling at the diversity on TV.....from...... "Top 10 ways to get killed in Thailand".......to ......"When to put slits whilst baking bread".......the spice of life, foe sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan747 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Dario, that bread looks fantastic. I would be eternally grateful if you shared the recipe and method "Yes, Please X2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Do u wet ur knife? Even with a razor sharp box cutter I just seem to drag the dough around I dont wet my knife, just make sure the blade is clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 where the best place to buy yeastIf you have a bakery nearby, ask them for some as their turn over of yeast will be better than what you can buy in the shops and you'll get fresher yeast.I bought a big packet of dry yeast at Makro over a year ago. Have kept it in the pack, sealed and in an airtight box in the fridge. Still going strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I believe that will be because the second rise was too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. I will try your way, thank you Edited March 9, 2016 by Tchooptip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO2BKK Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Try Jim Lahey's No Knead Bread - see http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread. There is also a video on YouTube. It is not only the easiest but also best bread you can make at home. Genius. If you do it as described in the recipe, the top of your loaf will split on its own, just like you would get from a commercial bakery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Made a couple of loaves today. Proved, punched down. Nice long second rise. Came up really high (didn't slit). Carefully put them in the oven and they fell straight away and didn't really rise back again. I tend to put my dough in the baking tray and then put it in the oven at 40 degrees to rise again. Then after an hour or so I just turn the temperature up. This way there is no physical shock of movement to cause the dough to collapse. I do it the same way at 50 degrees. Just before I put them in the oven, I slit... with a sharp knife, that is paramount. For years I used the wrong sharpeners, now I found a good one at Lazada, here. 20160203_112818z.jpg IMG_5564z.jpg That bread looks amazing! So to clarify, you mix, knead and prove until double size etc....punch down....slit top then put into cool oven for 2nd rise for an hour or so. Then whack the temperature up to 180. Do I have that about right? BY the way. Looks like you don't use a bread tin. Do you just throw it on a tray in a rectangular shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Try Jim Lahey's No Knead Bread - see http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread. There is also a video on YouTube. It is not only the easiest but also best bread you can make at home. Genius. If you do it as described in the recipe, the top of your loaf will split on its own, just like you would get from a commercial bakery. I love the video, its very convincing, the only drawback (I'm afraid) home oven are not hot enough? I bought one on Lazada 10,000 Baht, mainly for bread and Pizza, but it heats "only" to 220° not sure its enough for this recipe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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