Am I legal citizen here?

[mungamunga]

I have a Thai id an Thai birth certificate.

I just want to make sure I am legal here, many stories of corruption, "coincidences" happening etc. Is the Thai id proof I am a Thai citizen and allowed to work? Or do I need a work permit?

I'm just scared of being kicked out or sent to prison. Also where can I apply for a Thai passport?

[ubonjoe]

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

[Pib]

You wouldn't have got the Thai ID card without being a Thai citizen in the eyes of the govt.

[mungamunga]

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

Thank you, so there isn't any more documents I need to prove I am a national here? My name is in my fathers house. Like in England a national insurance number?

What about working? America has the green card, is there a document I need to work in Thailand?

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

Thank you, so there isn't any more documents I need to prove I am a national here? My name is in my fathers house. Like in England a national insurance number?

What about working? America has the green card, is there a document I need to work in Thailand? What about if I need medical care? Is there a medical card? Also a driving licence application, I am in Rangsit.

The link for the passport only has e-passport applications?

[aidenai]

As a Thai national you don't need a work permit nor an immigration permission of stay. But careful - if you're a dual-citizen, make sure you entered The Kingdom on a Thai passport.

[sunnyjim5]

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

Thank you, so there isn't any more documents I need to prove I am a national here? My name is in my fathers house. Like in England a national insurance number?

What about working? America has the green card, is there a document I need to work in Thailand?

If you are Thai with a valid Thai ID you need no documents to work other than those an employer might ask for as proof of qualification, work experience etc.

[ubonjoe]

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

Thank you, so there isn't any more documents I need to prove I am a national here? My name is in my fathers house. Like in England a national insurance number?

What about working? America has the green card, is there a document I need to work in Thailand?

It seems you have Thai nationality. Your ID card proves that but for some things you also need to show copies of a house book registry also.

The only way there could be problems would be if you entered the country using a non Thai passport.

Passport application info here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

List of passport offices is here in Thai. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/organize/21037-%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87.html

Thank you, so there isn't any more documents I need to prove I am a national here? My name is in my fathers house. Like in England a national insurance number?

What about working? America has the green card, is there a document I need to work in Thailand? What about if I need medical care? Is there a medical card?

Your Thai ID card is all you need. Your Thai ID number shown on it is used for everything.

You need nothing more to work than you have already.

You can register for the 30 baht health care program. If get a job you will then be making social security payments and will get health care under that program.

[mungamunga]

Thank you everyone for the quick responses. have a lovely day everyone!

[lopburi3]

And you are female; or if not, aware of requirements for military service registration?

[elviajero]

As a Thai national you don't need a work permit nor an immigration permission of stay. But careful - if you're a dual-citizen, make sure you entered The Kingdom on a Thai passport.

Why would it matter what passport they entered the country with if they are Thai citizen?

[Pib]

As a Thai national you don't need a work permit nor an immigration permission of stay. But careful - if you're a dual-citizen, make sure you entered The Kingdom on a Thai passport.

Why would it matter what passport they entered the country with if they are Thai citizen?

Because as a dual citizen he entered as a his other country's/foreign passport he would be subject to the associated permitted to stay/90 day reporting rules...or a minimum raise questions with immigration. Like when he leaves Thailand under the same name but immigration shows him entering on a foreign passport and not a Thai passport...questions then begin to arise.

[steve187]

Your op makes it seem you are very unsure about Thailands ways, that makes me think you have a second nationality, if so what passport did you enter Thailand on, if non Thai then you will need to obtain an extension of stay from local immigration, before your permission to stay stamp expires.

[brianinbangkok]

As OP asks how to apply for a Thai passport it would seem he/she does not have one so that answers the question how he/she entered Thailand. A foreign passport. Would that mean get a Thai passport. Leave Thailand by air and return on the Thai passport ? So indeed good question how did OP enter Thailand ?

[Pib]

As OP asks how to apply for a Thai passport it would seem he/she does not have one so that answers the question how he/she entered Thailand. A foreign passport. Would that mean get a Thai passport. Leave Thailand by air and return on the Thai passport ? So indeed good question how did OP enter Thailand ?

Good catch....I expect he/she entered on his foreign passport.

[mungamunga]

As OP asks how to apply for a Thai passport it would seem he/she does not have one so that answers the question how he/she entered Thailand. A foreign passport. Would that mean get a Thai passport. Leave Thailand by air and return on the Thai passport ? So indeed good question how did OP enter Thailand ?

Good catch....I expect he/she entered on his foreign passport.

I entered on something called a certificate of identity. Its a light blue piece of paper folded, on the back it says: The holder of this CI is a Thai national born in the United Kingdom whose birth has been registered at the Royal Thai Embassy in London as per birth certificate number ...../..... date: .....

Inside it has a passport photo, my signature, all my body details like hight, sex, age, profession, present address etc and on the next page it says in red: This certificate is only valid for the purpose of travelling to Thailand and must be used before ......, issued on ........, it's valid for 10 days after given to the user and they must enter the kingdom with those 10 days or it expires and they need to get a new one.

Multiple red stamps etc.

I think its used for Thai nationals who lost their passport abroad an need to come home, an alternative to an epassport. or it is an epassport.

When I landed and showed this CI, the officers took me aside, checked it, said okay and took me to the Thai side of passport control and they let me through. No stamp in Brit passport etc so that means the only way for me to leave Thailand is to get a Thai passport or I am stuck here which would be problematic in the future.

edit: Looked on google images, its on there. Small blue card, about the size of a passport thats folded, previous editions seem to be a piece of A4 paper.

[mungamunga]

As a Thai national you don't need a work permit nor an immigration permission of stay. But careful - if you're a dual-citizen, make sure you entered The Kingdom on a Thai passport.

Why would it matter what passport they entered the country with if they are Thai citizen?

Because as a dual citizen he entered as a his other country's/foreign passport he would be subject to the associated permitted to stay/90 day reporting rules...or a minimum raise questions with immigration. Like when he leaves Thailand under the same name but immigration shows him entering on a foreign passport and not a Thai passport...questions then begin to arise.

Don't be so suspicious of presumed illegal actions. Either way, I'm legally Thai. However, I assume questions will be raised if I travelled to another on my Thai and then decide to travel to another country on my English from that country.

[mungamunga]

As a Thai national you don't need a work permit nor an immigration permission of stay. But careful - if you're a dual-citizen, make sure you entered The Kingdom on a Thai passport.

Why would it matter what passport they entered the country with if they are Thai citizen?

Thai, Swedish, Somalian or not, you are what nationality the passport you use to enter country X or Y.

If I entered on my Brit, I'll be classed as a falang, a tourist. Not a Thai, regardless of my ethnicity. Thankfully, there is a way for Thais born abroad to enter Thailand as a Thai, through a emergency passport or they scribble that out and write citizenship identity on it, as in my case.

The CI I was issued and use to enter the Kingdom seems to be a rare occurence, the officials at first were surprised about it, either that or my appearance caught them off guard, been told I look ambiguous and not clearly White or Asian, taxi drivers seem shocked I have a Thai id card and become more chatty. I was accused of lying at a hospital as well.

To those who are curious, my id starts with a 5.

[ubonjoe]

As OP asks how to apply for a Thai passport it would seem he/she does not have one so that answers the question how he/she entered Thailand. A foreign passport. Would that mean get a Thai passport. Leave Thailand by air and return on the Thai passport ? So indeed good question how did OP enter Thailand ?

Good catch....I expect he/she entered on his foreign passport.

I entered on something called a certificate of identity. Its a light blue piece of paper folded, on the back it says: The holder of this CI is a Thai national born in the United Kingdom whose birth has been registered at the Royal Thai Embassy in London as per birth certificate number ...../..... date: .....

Inside it has a passport photo, my signature, all my body details like hight, sex, age, profession, present address etc and on the next page it says in red: This certificate is only valid for the purpose of travelling to Thailand and must be used before ......, issued on ........, it's valid for 10 days after given to the user and they must enter the kingdom with those 10 days or it expires and they need to get a new one.

Multiple red stamps etc.

I think its used for Thai nationals who lost their passport abroad an need to come home, an alternative to an epassport. or it is an epassport.

When I landed and showed this CI, the officers took me aside, checked it, said okay and took me to the Thai side of passport control and they let me through. No stamp in Brit passport etc so that means the only way for me to leave Thailand is to get a Thai passport or I am stuck here which would be problematic in the future.

edit: Looked on google images, its on there. Small blue card, about the size of a passport thats folded, previous editions seem to be a piece of A4 paper.

That explains you current status here. You entered the country as a Thai national. You can legally stay in the country for a long as you want to.

The only thing you need now is a Thai passport so that you leave the country.