rooster59 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Corruption situation improves, says NACCThammarat ThadaphromBANGKOK, 26 March 2016 (NNT) – The Ministry of Justice says the Royal Thai Government places great emphasis on the issue of corruption. In the meantime, the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) says the corruption situation in Thailand has significantly improved.NACC chief Pol Gen Watcharapol Prasarnrajkit said thanks to the government’s serious commitment to cracking down on fraudulent conduct, the number of corruption cases has lowered. According to the 2016 Corruption Perception Index released by Transparency International, Thailand is ranked 76 out of 168 countries around the world.Meanwhile, Minister for Justice Gen Paiboon Khumchaya said the government had been working hard to stamp out corruption from the society. He said state officials must be more aware of the problem and under any circumstances must not allow corruption to take place. -- NNT 2016-03-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 You can trust me iam Thai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I wonder how much it cost for that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Translation: government officials say, "We are doing a great job!" Seriously, there is no objective assessment. Nor any credible poll. Nor any quantification. Just the usual "confidence" game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Good! From this I can tell that they going to round up the top highest ranking military brass and the top ten such in the police, and have them explain their "unusual wealth". I must mark this story to follow. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Just look at the park scandal. Found to be corruption free but internal investigations. The dead amulet trader and fleeing lesser generals were just a coincidence you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 "NACC chief Pol Gen Watcharapol Prasarnrajkit said thanks to the government’s serious commitment to cracking down on fraudulent conduct, the number of corruption cases has lowered. According to the 2016 Corruption Perception Index released by Transparency International, Thailand is ranked 76 out of 168 countries around the world." Take another look at that index. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/889990-how-does-thailand-rank-globally-for-corruption/?hl=%2Bcorruption+%2Bperception+%2Bindex+%2Bthailand Thailand's score held steady at an unacceptably low 38. Thailand rose in the ranking because other countries became more corrupt, not because Thailand improved. Regarding "the number of corruption cases has lowered", I'd like to know what this means. It could mean the government is dismissing corrupt claims without investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Meanwhile, Minister for Justice Gen Paiboon Khumchaya said the government had been working hard to stamp corruption into the society. He said state officials must be more aware of the problem and under any circumstances must allow corruption to take place where soldiers are in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Corruption improves!!! When they say this does it mean they are getting better at not getting caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I wonder how much it cost for that statement. Perhaps it's a case of what would it have cost NACC members not to have made such a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Looking at the Rajabakhti Park fiasco. The NACC were sidelined for a military sponsored outfit called the CNAC to take over. And just in that one case it seemed that what could (read should) be labelled as corruption was actually labelled as being above board. The level of delusion about just what and who are the most corrupt is a sick joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 "the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) says the corruption situation in Thailand has significantly improved." Yes it definitely has because more officials are on the take than ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Three months ago the local TAO let a contract to place sewers along the side of a road for about 600 meters. The cost was five million Baht. The total project probably cost five hundred thousand Baht. Everyone was talking about how corrupt the local officials are. Yesterday a group of soldiers showed up in a Humvee and walked the road and then went to the TAO for meetings. Hopefully they will send the entire lot to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Corruption improves!!! When they say this does it mean they are getting better at not getting caught? No, it just means that those investigators have new Benz's. I don't think the NACC has ever brought a case to caught other than Shinawatra ones. I could show them 10 cases within 10 minutes. It shows how serious they are about corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 NACC has its own definition, interpretation and political expediency of cases they handle. That will reduce half of the cases and help improve the corruption situation. Well done (sic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogo51 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 'Corruption Improves' does that mean they are getting better at it??? I would have thought most of them have 'masters' by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWest Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Sorry... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Three months ago the local TAO let a contract to place sewers along the side of a road for about 600 meters. The cost was five million Baht. The total project probably cost five hundred thousand Baht. Everyone was talking about how corrupt the local officials are. Yesterday a group of soldiers showed up in a Humvee and walked the road and then went to the TAO for meetings. Hopefully they will send the entire lot to jail. Yeah sure.... the price just went up to 10 million..... you ever been to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Three months ago the local TAO let a contract to place sewers along the side of a road for about 600 meters. The cost was five million Baht. The total project probably cost five hundred thousand Baht. Everyone was talking about how corrupt the local officials are. Yesterday a group of soldiers showed up in a Humvee and walked the road and then went to the TAO for meetings. Hopefully they will send the entire lot to jail. Yeah sure.... the price just went up to 10 million..... you ever been to Thailand? Yep, been here since 1995. But you may be right. Edited March 27, 2016 by Pimay1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Proof please ! And how are you going to measure it ministry of the Royal Thai Government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Let's get one thing perfectly clear: when this government claims to be suppressing corruption, what they really mean is that they are deal with those corrupt politicians and officials who are standing in their way; it's nothing more than a means to try to ensure that the military retains its monopoly on corrupt practices. A prime example of this: Prayut appointing his brother and various cronies to top positions in the government, especially the NACC & PACC, where they pay themselves huge salaries to ensure only the right people get investigated. Like the shameless, overt corruption of the RTP, military corruption has a long tradition in Thailand, going back decades. Top-ranking military officers are routinely involved with smuggling, prostitution rackets, drug trafficking and human trafficking. They also appoint themselves to high-paid management board positions in state enterprises. Most military officers enjoy incomes well above their military salaries and retire after having amassed huge levels of 'unexplained' wealth. Loading the NACC & the PACC with high-ranking officers of the military and the RTP—the people who wrote the book on corruption in Thailand—is most definitely not the way to reduce corruption, let alone the general public's perception of corruption - the clearing of the Rajabhakti park project of any corruption is proof of this. The fact that Thailand has seven governmental agencies charged with combating corruption (the Election Commission; the Office of the Auditor-General of Thailand; the Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC); the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC); the Royal Thai Police (RTP); the Department of Special Investigation; and the Office of the Attorney-General) means that any reports and investigations can get buried in inter-jurisdictional red tape. Perversely, not one of these bodies has remained clear of corruption with each being involved in several high profile cases. But, of course, the economy is tanking, so it must be the junta's success against corruption... “Today the economy is slowing down because previously everybody had money to spend,” junta leader-turned-Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-Ocha said June 5 in a nationally televised speech. “But now we have a problem, which we all know. It’s because some people spend money from illegal businesses and money from fraud. Now the government has come to set things right, causing that money to disappear.” Source Hmmm... I wonder when my invitation will arrive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 To think people claim Thais have no sense of irony or sarcasm in their humor, this is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 ...still waiting for anything to be done about the near-trillion baht rice swindle, etc.... ...should we just forget about those incidents now that everything is miraculously better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) ...still waiting for anything to be done about the near-trillion baht rice swindle, etc.... ...should we just forget about those incidents now that everything is miraculously better... Considering one of the NACC Commissioners, Sataphon Loathing, was appointed to a subcommittee monitoring the implementation of the rice-pledging scheme while he was serving as police inspector-general, one can safely assume you'll be waiting for a while... Edit: the dude's name is actually Laothong, but that auto-correct is an apt description of my feelings towards this mob... Edited March 27, 2016 by jamesbrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robm579 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 What a load of old tosh... How many are now in prison as a result of their efforts? How much money have they recovered? How much money did they actually ... Really recover ? And from whom? Prove it...prove anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Interesting. An entity that has no afflictions with Thailand or the junta coming out with an independent index as they have done around the world. They have offices in over 100 countries yet since there results do not serve the narrative that some argue so strenuously about they suspect this is a rigid result or they dismiss the results or they belittle the organisation that came about in 1993 because they wanted to stamp out corruption. I for one am not too impressed with the results though as the Junta came in when the corruption index in Thailand was at a record all time high. The result could not possible go any higher without some very hard work involved. If any thing the index result should be quite a bit lower so the Junta have plenty of work ahead of them. 2013 certainly is no surprise. FACTS. Gotta love em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 What he actually means is that now the good guys benefit from corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Interesting. An entity that has no afflictions with Thailand or the junta coming out with an independent index as they have done around the world. They have offices in over 100 countries yet since there results do not serve the narrative that some argue so strenuously about they suspect this is a rigid result or they dismiss the results or they belittle the organisation that came about in 1993 because they wanted to stamp out corruption. I for one am not too impressed with the results though as the Junta came in when the corruption index in Thailand was at a record all time high. The result could not possible go any higher without some very hard work involved. If any thing the index result should be quite a bit lower so the Junta have plenty of work ahead of them. 2013 certainly is no surprise. FACTS. Gotta love em. "FACTS. Gotta love em." Then why do you abuse them? As I stated in post #7, Thailand's score has remained unchanged and unacceptably low. Just because other countries became more corrupt doesn't mean Thailand is less corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Corruption situation improves, says NACC <deleted>, says Daguerreotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Interesting. An entity that has no afflictions with Thailand or the junta coming out with an independent index as they have done around the world. They have offices in over 100 countries yet since there results do not serve the narrative that some argue so strenuously about they suspect this is a rigid result or they dismiss the results or they belittle the organisation that came about in 1993 because they wanted to stamp out corruption. I for one am not too impressed with the results though as the Junta came in when the corruption index in Thailand was at a record all time high. The result could not possible go any higher without some very hard work involved. If any thing the index result should be quite a bit lower so the Junta have plenty of work ahead of them. 2013 certainly is no surprise. FACTS. Gotta love em. "FACTS. Gotta love em." Then why do you abuse them? As I stated in post #7, Thailand's score has remained unchanged and unacceptably low. Just because other countries became more corrupt doesn't mean Thailand is less corrupt. or they dismiss the results or they belittle the organisation that came about in 1993 because they wanted to stamp out corruption. Yep OK. Thanks for reinforcing my statement by dismissing the results. Gotta love facts though even after the excuse you make. Especially the 2013 fact. According to your dismissal all the other countries must have been very very uncorrupt in 2013. A conspiracy against Thailand or an implausible dismissal? I suspect the later. Take care my friend. Edited March 27, 2016 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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