webfact Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 85 flights delayed at Don Mueang and SuvarnabhumiBANGKOK: -- The Aeronautical Radio of Thailand Co (Aerothai) says 85 departure and arrival flights at Bangkok's Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi airports were delayed after it started to introduce the new flight management system today.The new flight system is the effort of the state-run air traffic controller to increase its air traffic control efficiency to ease traffic congestion at the two airports.The flight delays happened first from 5 am to 7 am.Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day.This resulted in air traffic congestion at Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi airports, while unfavourable weather conditions, also added to longer flight delays, he said.He said of the 85 flights affected, 51 flights were at Suvarnabhumi airport and 34 flights at Don Mueang airport.He said the longest delay was at Suvarvabhumi which took one hour and 45 minutes and at Don Muang 1.30 hours.But he said the situation had returned to normal at noon today.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/157712 -- Thai PBS 2016-03-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannig Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) New air traffic control station software so well deployed that it causes this kind of delays would make me nervous in any airport in the world. But in Thailand... Edited March 31, 2016 by Lannig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder if things were back to normal by noon because they reverted to the previous, existing system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Seems to be working well regards Worgeorie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 "Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day." yikes... nothing like on the job training. "Ho Lee Fuk! What is Windows 8? Where is the Start menu? What do?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 "Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day." yikes... nothing like on the job training. "Ho Lee Fuk! What is Windows 8? Where is the Start menu? What do?" It was an upgrade from XP to Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1412 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thai 72 to Tower Tower here TL 72 We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions Ahh hold for a moment TL72.... .. .. .. .. .. Ahh TL 72 this is Tower Go ahead Tower TL 72 where did you say you are ..... Tower we are at Bravo 12..... .. .. Again please TL 72 Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12 Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang, .. .. .. Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ??? Sorry what was that Tower?? Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK.... TL72.. this is Tower Roger Tower TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that .... Roger Tower TL72 out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thai 72 to Tower Tower here TL 72 We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions Ahh hold for a moment TL72.... .. .. .. .. .. Ahh TL 72 this is Tower Go ahead Tower TL 72 where did you say you are ..... Tower we are at Bravo 12..... .. .. Again please TL 72 Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12 Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang, .. .. .. Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ??? Sorry what was that Tower?? Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK.... TL72.. this is Tower Roger Tower TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that .... Roger Tower TL72 out.... I got a pretty good chuckle out of that. "upwardly direction". I'm still laughing. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Certainly doesn't look like it was cured by noon, if you look at the 1:00pm departures to Europe, most delayed by at least 1 hour. http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do Edited March 31, 2016 by RabC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiowl Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 My son is a pilot and was delayed for 1hr 51mins out of DMK this morning. He was number 19 in the queue to take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micbozy Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 When they say you'll need 4 training sessions for your staffs when upgrading a system, better make it 10 sessions instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1happykamper Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller". I am afraid to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller". I am afraid to look. You won't regret. Trust me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 This is actually a big upgrade & has been coming for some 3 years. Similar congestion was experienced at Narita for 2 days when they introduced it. Bit more difficult here also as had to be both airports as the are in fairly close proximity All OK now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1happykamper Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller". I am afraid to look. You won't regret. Trust me.... OMB. Yep it was as bad as I thought. .. certainly great material for a Faulty Towers episode... I'll take bus back to England thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbf Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Oh joy, I'm flying UTH-BKK tomorrow and BKK-DOH-LHR on Saturday. Should be "fun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) My wife speaks and understands English pretty well and worked onboard Emirates for 11 years. She had no idea what the air traffic controller said in English on that BKK Post video. Looks like it is as efficiently run as the immigration department, the courts and the anti-corruption campaign. Edited March 31, 2016 by Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I believe part of the problem here, is when the aeronautical folks when out looking for a new ATC system, no one told them it didn't stand for: Automated Tuk-tuk Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macksview Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 My wife speaks and understands English pretty well and worked onboard Emirates for 11 years. She had no idea what the air traffic controller said in English on that BKK Post video. Looks like it is as efficiently run as the immigration department, the courts and the anti-corruption campaign. your mrs knows too much, i dont think i would fly again with the stories she could tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thai 72 to Tower Tower here TL 72 We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions Ahh hold for a moment TL72.... .. .. .. .. .. Ahh TL 72 this is Tower Go ahead Tower TL 72 where did you say you are ..... Tower we are at Bravo 12..... .. .. Again please TL 72 Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12 Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang, .. .. .. Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ??? Sorry what was that Tower?? Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK.... TL72.. this is Tower Roger Tower TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that .... Roger Tower TL72 out.... Nok air anyone hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 My wife's 16:50 flight out of Don Muang to Chiang Mai arrived at 19:10. She was on board at 17:00, so they must have been waiting on the tarmac an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemoonpattaya Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm flying out of U-Tapao airport ( Pattaya ) tomorrow, which only handles 14 aircraft a day. That's about 1 every 45 mins The only flight system required is a pair of binoculars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabi local Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Certainly not all fixed by noon. My 1415 flight to Krabi left at 1605 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldasCavern Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller". I am afraid to look. You won't regret. Trust me.... OMB. Yep it was as bad as I thought. .. certainly great material for a Faulty Towers episode... I'll take bus back to England thanks. OMG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder if things were back to normal by noon because they reverted to the previous, existing system. They couldn't go back to the old system as they had already taken the stone tablets to the stone quarry to make gravel for the planned runway expansion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbf Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 My 12.45 UTH-BKK delayed by 30 mins due to late inbound. Not exactly a nightmare but I've usually found these flights very punctual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottocus Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 My Vientiane to BKK flight was delayed by 70 minutes yesterday because the plane from BKK to Vientiane was late arriving. Sat on a bloody Thai Air plane to HK from 6.30 to 7.30 p.m. yesterday. On the tarmac, hot as hell, waiting to take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I guess it is a case of when the developers asked them if they had seen the manual and the training manual the controllers pointed at the shrink wrapped books in the corner of the room and said: "Of course we have seen them....they are over there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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