Popular Post webfact Posted April 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 What's the problem with western women in Thailand?STEPH JOHNSONFeatured image is by Exile on James Street and used under a Creative Commons licenceBANGKOK: -- When I first announced my plans to move to Thailand a couple of years ago, a few of my male friends were curious.Why would I, as a woman, want to live in Thailand?As far as they saw it, Thailand was a western man’s paradise and they couldn’t really see the appeal for me, a twenty-something girl who wasn’t looking to backpack or become an English teacher.Sex tourists, backpackers, English teachers – the three stereotypes of the Thailand apocalypse.Of course, anyone with even a mildly nuanced appreciation for this country knows that Thailand attracts a wide spectrum of foreigners to its shores, some of which can be pegged to those three categories, but many of which harken from other walks of life.I appreciate that Thailand is deemed a holiday paradise for many guys – tropical beaches plus cheap beer plus beautiful women equals a happy place for many a heterosexual man on vacation – but we all know that for many, this is merely the jumping off point for many of the people that fall in love with this country.Men and women of different nationalities, sexualities, relationship statuses; regardless of sensibilities, we all love Thailand.But while most people appreciate Thailand’s wide appeal, very occasionally a subsection of the expat population will surface who deign to treat those different from them as ‘other’. I’m particularly aware of those who are vocal about their problems with western women, if only because I am a western woman.This isn’t a feminist diatribe, but more of a collection of observations. I know that online trolls and sexism are issues regardless of where you are in the world, but I’ve noticed a few tropes which pop up time and time again as an expat here…Comparing western women to their Asian equivalentsOccasionally a blog post or forum thread will come to light that seeks to compare western girls with Thais. The stereotyping at play in these comparisons can occasionally be so ridiculous that they’re often more farcical than offensive. [read more...]Full story: http://whatsonsukhumvit.com/whats-the-problem-with-western-women-in-thailand/ -- (c) What's on Sukhumvit 2016-04-18 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaiChai Posted April 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 I should say she should enjoy her time in Thailand. But paradise it is not. Give some time and she will discover some of the negatives. For example, you can't move to Thailand like you could move from the UK to France. You will always need to comply with the visa rules and justify why she is in Thailand. There is not automatic entitlement to stay, but she will discover that herself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thechook Posted April 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 The problem is there are to many in Thailand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 She seems like a nice , well adjusted . intelligent person. IMO she will do great in Thailand or any other place. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 They have every reason to move there , its cheap nice weather and if they get lonely they can go to boytown 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The problem is there are to many in Thailand. Too many for what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 Interesting article. I'd say she was spot on with a number of her points. I'm sure the replies here will provide ample examples of the kind of men she describes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marko kok prong Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 Really,who cares? 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harrycallahan Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 She gives a reason why I might lean towards asian - she likes "tall men". I'm 5'8. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 Can't see what is the different between guys moving to Thailand or gals trying their luck in a country that welcomes all, Thailand is an easy country to live in for guys and gals, providing of course they keep their wits about them and that these're alert and switched on and have the means to support themselves in comfort..... some of the comments here are futile exercise in Misogyny and nothing more.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 I should say she should enjoy her time in Thailand. But paradise it is not. Give some time and she will discover some of the negatives. For example, you can't move to Thailand like you could move from the UK to France. You will always need to comply with the visa rules and justify why she is in Thailand. There is not automatic entitlement to stay, but she will discover that herself. Unless she gets married to a Thai man... much different, she then has many more rights than a farang man married to a Thai woman. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muzarella Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) My opinion. If a young Western woman is looking to come to Thailand for a long stay, the best and safer way is getting in some kind of activity, paid or not, like teaching, tutoring, learning, etc. Probably, in those settings, will meet other foreigners and more educated Thai people to communicate better, if she is not interested in learn Thai. Coming just for fun and curiosity, the chances to meet nice people will get smaller.....and the chances to get into trouble will get bigger. Bali is a lot better destination for English speakers, plus better weather and easy traveling to other Asian/English speaking countries, like Singapore, Malaysia, India, and Australia. Also Bali, is the favorite destination for single Western women after the " Eat, Pray, Love " book and movie. My female friends in Bali, also said that it is very common and easy for Western women to hook up and party with local men. Bali people have a lot better sense of humor and communication skills that Thai people, and it is easy to find work without so much visa restrictions, Learn the language is a piece of cake to do it well and fast. Bangkok - Kuala Lumpur - Bali by Air Asia = $250/round trip. Cost of living in Bali very similar to Thailand. Best areas to live in Bali - Sanur Beach or Ubud Hills. Beautiful country! Only I do not move there because I am too old, and my a lot younger Thai wife have family and work here.... Thailand is "safer". Men in Bali are very "Italian" like myself. Too "dangerous" around beautiful women. Edited April 18, 2016 by Muzarella 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 My opinion. If a young Western woman is looking to come to Thailand for a long stay, the best and safer way is getting in some kind of activity, paid or not, like teaching, tutoring, learning, etc. Probably, in those settings, will meet other foreigners and more educated Thai people to communicate better, if she is not interested in learn Thai. Coming just for fun and curiosity, the chances to meet nice people will get smaller.....and the chances to get into trouble will get bigger. Bali is a lot better destination for English speakers, plus better weather and easy traveling to other Asian/English speaking countries and Australia. I'd say the same was true for western men also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Do Western women come to Thailand for the men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Acharn Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 Can't see what is the different between guys moving to Thailand or gals trying their luck in a country that welcomes all, Thailand is an easy country to live in for guys and gals, providing of course they keep their wits about them and that these're alert and switched on and have the means to support themselves in comfort..... some of the comments here are futile exercise in Misogyny and nothing more.... I used to know a woman who was working for her doctorate in anthropology. Her thesis topic was that prostitution had paths leading to positive outcomes for Thai women. Not all, by any means, but some. She fell in love with some Thai boy toy for a while but eventually came to her senses. I used to work for a woman who had met her Thai husband at university, back in the States. He's a government official, and she's still here, they're still happily married. Back about 1990 there was an organization for expats. Can't remember its name now, but they had a huge house on ... was it Sukhumvit Soi 36? Provided great support. They warned that the big problem for most Western women in Bangkok was the lack of social life. Many comments here are by people who are both ignorant and immature. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 My son has had a LOT of different female farang teachers. (about 8)I can think of only one who has been here longer than 2 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Do Western women come to Thailand for the men? I guess some might, but not in the same numbers as their male counterparts. Farang female - Thai male couples are still a comparatively rare sight, and those that are around I'm guessing mostly didn't meet in a bar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BudRight Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 The OP has clearly just moved to the Kingdom. She'll be a lot less open minded in six months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 They have every reason to move there , its cheap nice weather and if they get lonely they can go to boytown 555 or girl town, lot of lesbians come here for the sam reason sexpats come 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Can't see what is the different between guys moving to Thailand or gals trying their luck in a country that welcomes all, Thailand is an easy country to live in for guys and gals, providing of course they keep their wits about them and that these're alert and switched on and have the means to support themselves in comfort..... some of the comments here are futile exercise in Misogyny and nothing more.... I used to know a woman who was working for her doctorate in anthropology. Her thesis topic was that prostitution had paths leading to positive outcomes for Thai women. Not all, by any means, but some. She fell in love with some Thai boy toy for a while but eventually came to her senses. I used to work for a woman who had met her Thai husband at university, back in the States. He's a government official, and she's still here, they're still happily married. Back about 1990 there was an organization for expats. Can't remember its name now, but they had a huge house on ... was it Sukhumvit Soi 36? Provided great support. They warned that the big problem for most Western women in Bangkok was the lack of social life. Many comments here are by people who are both ignorant and immature. That's interesting. Many of the western women I know here have little trouble socialising - some seem to rarely ever be at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HooHaa Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 all i have to say is thank god for the misogynists, misfits and misanthropes out there with their insecurities. after 20 years in thailand, i have come full circle. give me a motivated western woman with her own life over another thai dependent any day. personally i enjoy lying in bed discussing literature or world affairs with someone who can answer.so, you keep it up and ill keep meeting women who are relieved that im not a sexpat <deleted> 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The OP has clearly just moved to the Kingdom. She'll be a lot less open minded in six months. Judging by the opening paragraph, she's been here a couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanbat Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Thought it was a decent article with some astute observations. I thought she was a little too empathetic to the small % of misogynistic dinosaurs that I run into from time to time here however. OB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 Do Western women come to Thailand for the men?I guess some might, but not in the same numbers as their male counterparts. Farang female - Thai male couples are still a comparatively rare sight, and those that are around I'm guessing mostly didn't meet in a bar.The fire show guys at the island beaches usually brag about having gone through half of Norway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The problem with western women in Thailand (and the rest of Asia) is that there are not enough western women in Thailand. and have the means to support themselves in comfort... That is getting harder to do in Thailand for foreigners and Thais alike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonuaq Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 People are the same everywhere Onky place and apearance is different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 They are intruders in a man's world, like in the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 ....oh God...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggt Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 I try not to notice them...and they definitely do not notice me...it is all good... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kabula Posted April 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2016 In my opinion most western women cling together like a covey of quail. Many are so into their girl friends one has to wonder what their sexual orientation is? They rarely make eye contact. After close to 10 years living in Thailand I've never seen single Western women stay here very long. Furthermore, Western women are not attracted to older men like Asian women. Most western women are very independent as they have savings and income sources. That makes a real difference in the urgency of a relationship. I'm personally bored with blonde hair and I will take a slim, younger, black, silky, long haired Asian women even if most are acting! Asian women are more polite, cleaner and if you find a good one will treat you better than most western women Most retired men are invisible to younger western women in my opinion. Like my dad said years ago, "there is a reason they are alone and it will be painful to find out why?" He went on to say,"behind every beautiful woman is a string of broken hearts as everyone wants to be their friend?" "Son, find a plain women when you are young who can be your best friend that is honest and has similiar goals and you will be happy!" Pop was married to the same woman for 56 years... I didn't listen!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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