London may elect first Muslim mayor, after ugly, 'dog-whistling' campaign

[rgs2001uk]

^^^^ the irony of it all.

Even the economic migrants and refugees, seem hell bent on heading to the protestant countries of northern europe, not too many willing to relocate to socialist (catholic)paradises such as spain, portugal or italy.

Protestant Nth America (USA & Canada) boom, Sth American catholic countries continue in abject poverty.

Phillipines anyone, no thank you, thought not.

Heck even the refugees in calais cant wait to get out of the defacto commie country of france and head for the white cliffs of dover.

Totally laffable.

[NeverSure]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

[AYJAYDEE]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

muslims coming in without a visa? where?

[Jingthing]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

So you're basically saying you think Trump is a demagogue and a liar. Because his statements are clear: Ban ALL Muslims.

I hope someone asks that psychopath this question directly in an interview.

Edited May 7, 2016 by Jingthing

[arjunadawn]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

ThkU. I was at first going to respond to this but see you have. It is not entirely unfair to accuse Trump of this, but it is intentionally offered without context. The goal is clearly intelligent profiling, not banning; revising the sterilized DHS and DOJ terrorism texts and guidelines, not banning. The goal is deciding why the mafia always hangs out in little Italy, not banning. It is an expression of understanding that the Black Panthers do not hail from Groton, CT. The effort is to determine from which sources jihadist threats come.

Were it not for Obama's sterilizing and offering that islamic jihad is not islamic people would have a reference point. The effort to divorce the self evident from reality leads people to reach the very conclusion Trump has- soufflé has its origins in France!

A British mayor, duly elected and vetted by popular vote, would surely not suffer a ban (unlike the knee jerk reaction to free speech evidenced against Trump).

If America (indeed, the UK) cannot secure its borders as every other nation has/does in all of history, it may continue to exist, but not in a manner that is recognizable. Open borders, the pet of the darling left, is the problem. The millions pouring across the borders are only the symptom.

[Jingthing]

Stop making excuses for Trump. He really said this stuff. If he intends to back up from it, retract it, apologize for it, conditionalize it, that is his choice. Instead the psychopathic demogogue is DOUBLING down on it.

[Steely Dan]

perhaps they can replace the big ben sound with the loud speaker wailing multiple times a day that can be heard in muslim countries

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

[AYJAYDEE]

perhaps they can replace the big ben sound with the loud speaker wailing multiple times a day that can be heard in muslim countries

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

so you got nuttin?

[sirineou]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

ThkU. I was at first going to respond to this but see you have. It is not entirely unfair to accuse Trump of this, but it is intentionally offered without context. The goal is clearly intelligent profiling, not banning; revising the sterilized DHS and DOJ terrorism texts and guidelines, not banning. The goal is deciding why the mafia always hangs out in little Italy, not banning. It is an expression of understanding that the Black Panthers do not hail from Groton, CT. The effort is to determine from which sources jihadist threats come.

Were it not for Obama's sterilizing and offering that islamic jihad is not islamic people would have a reference point. The effort to divorce the self evident from reality leads people to reach the very conclusion Trump has- soufflé has its origins in France!

A British mayor, duly elected and vetted by popular vote, would surely not suffer a ban (unlike the knee jerk reaction to free speech evidenced against Trump).

If America (indeed, the UK) cannot secure its borders as every other nation has/does in all of history, it may continue to exist, but not in a manner that is recognizable. Open borders, the pet of the darling left, is the problem. The millions pouring across the borders are only the symptom.

Good for you to explain Trump.because for a moment I thought he would discriminate against all Muslims , now that I know that he would only discriminate against the poor and the unimportant, I feel better.

[jaidam]

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

so you got nuttin?

Dan, I think you need to clarify the term "Uncle Toms" and explain it clearly for him what the new mayor meant by using that term. Once understood, it is of course absolutely shocking and his intentions are laid bare for all to see.

[Steely Dan]

perhaps they can replace the big ben sound with the loud speaker wailing multiple times a day that can be heard in muslim countries

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

so you got nuttin?

Obviously not enough dirty laundry to make him unelectable, had he said anything really damaging I'm sure it would have come out by now. Here is a glowing endorsement of Khan from a Pakistani commentator called Khurram Zaki. I will give the entire quote seeing as it was his last before being murdered.

I hope the UK doesn't have too many Muslims who would murder people for their thoughts.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Steely Dan

[Boon Mee]

I hope the UK doesn't have too many Muslims who would murder people for their thoughts.

Well, hope so too but recall the Muslim shopkeeper who was slaughtered because he wished a Christian a Happy Easter?

This Muslim elected Mayor of London can only end badly...

Edited May 8, 2016 by Boon Mee

[SgtRock]

Under Trump, the new mayor of London would be banned the same as any Muslim from any country. That is insane. The U.K. should have passed that law banning Trump. That would help the effort to stop that American fascist from ever being elected president.

How is U.S. immigration supposed to know who is a Muslim for sure? Just ask them? Check the male organs? Ask to eat bacon? The new mayor of London ought to make this an issue. A U.K. citizen, mayor of one the most important world cities, banned just because of his religion. Outrageous! Un-American! Americans need international help to stop a hostile takeover from this xenophobic, racist, psychopath (Trump).

I feel you're overreacting. The mayor of London would surely be admitted. His position is a type of vetting. He's hardly ISIS.

It seems so many want to go to extremes such as banning Trump from the UK or assuming this mayor wouldn't be invited.

Trump (and I) are opposed to allowing immigrants of any stripe to flood across our borders without getting vetted and getting proper visas the normal way. It's normal and it's the law. It always has been and still is for most people, but the current administration refuses to enforce long standing immigration laws. We now have an unbelievable number of illegals in the US. I find that totally unacceptable.

I don't understand the OTT scenarios and what seems like panic over enforcing existing laws.

So you're basically saying you think Trump is a demagogue and a liar. Because his statements are clear: Ban ALL Muslims.

I hope someone asks that psychopath this question directly in an interview.

Although it is getting off topic, I hope this response will be allowed.

He said no such thing. What he said was clear and unequivocal.

Watch from 18.20. First Cruz and then Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NErVNgxzt_k

I think I may be correct in calling Vice a pretty unbiased source.

[SoiBiker]

I hope the UK doesn't have too many Muslims who would murder people for their thoughts.

Well, hope so too but recall the Muslim shopkeeper who was slaughtered because he wished a Christian a Happy Easter?

This Muslim elected Mayor of London can only end badly...

He wasn't elected by muslims.

[SgtRock]

I hope the UK doesn't have too many Muslims who would murder people for their thoughts.

Well, hope so too but recall the Muslim shopkeeper who was slaughtered because he wished a Christian a Happy Easter?

This Muslim elected Mayor of London can only end badly...

He wasn't elected by muslims.

WOW

You have an electoral roll broken down by religion of those who voted for him ?

Amazing.

[SoiBiker]

I hope the UK doesn't have too many Muslims who would murder people for their thoughts.

Well, hope so too but recall the Muslim shopkeeper who was slaughtered because he wished a Christian a Happy Easter?

This Muslim elected Mayor of London can only end badly...

He wasn't elected by muslims.

WOW

You have an electoral roll broken down by religion of those who voted for him ?

Amazing.

No. But I have a rough idea of how many muslims there are in London, the election results, and some common sense.

Some of you guys are making yourself look ridiculous here.

[jayboy]

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

so you got nuttin?

Dan, I think you need to clarify the term "Uncle Toms" and explain it clearly for him what the new mayor meant by using that term. Once understood, it is of course absolutely shocking and his intentions are laid bare for all to see.

Like most Londoners ( actually ex Londoner) interested in politics I was surprised to read press reports about Sadiq Khan's "Uncle Tom" comments since they did not fit in with what I know about him.

About five minutes search revealed the comment was made in the context of the need to appeal to all Muslims - not just the majority who are reasonable and well integrated.He has since apologised for using an inappropriate description but here was never an intentional wish to denigrate the reasonable Muslim majority.He is a member of that group himself.His point not very sensitively made was the perfectly valid one that all sections of the Muslim community need to be integrated - not just some of them.

I can see why the Tories seized on his comment, and I don't blame them for that.But there is much less here than meets the eye - and Londoners of all descriptions recognised that earlier this week.He would never have been elected without massive support outside his own community.

[SoiBiker]

Normal Londoners voted this guy in, a fact that some will find hard to swallow. Time to face the truth - your rabid islamophobia puts you in a minority.

[SgtRock]

He wasn't elected by muslims.

WOW

You have an electoral roll broken down by religion of those who voted for him ?

Amazing.

No. But I have a rough idea of how many muslims there are in London, the election results, and some common sense.

Some of you guys are making yourself look ridiculous here.

Sure.

He was elected with 1.3 million votes. How many voting Muslims do you think are in London ?

The only one making themselves look ridiculous is you.

[SoiBiker]

I don't think so.

[Scott]

Please stay on topic. The topic is about the newly elected London, England, Mayor.

[SoiBiker]

As usual the voting turnout in the UK was abysmal...

But I reckon when Muslim folk found out one of their followers could actually become Mayor they made the effort to vote..

And presumably if large numbers of Londoners found the idea of a muslim mayor as abhorrent and terrifying as some posters here do, they would have mobilised in greater numbers to prevent it.

The fact that they did not suggests that such views are held by a minority.

[Steely Dan]

Don't worry, but yet another Labour politician was just suspended for Jew hating online posting. Possibly a pal of the new mayor. Hmm.

does the new mayor hate jews?

His past dodgy associations and use of the phrase Uncle Tom suggest his private thoughts may be difficult from his public persona. It is noteworthy if no Jew hatred as yet emerged as they just can't help themselves as some of our esteemed members here demonstrate.

so you got nuttin?

Dan, I think you need to clarify the term "Uncle Toms" and explain it clearly for him what the new mayor meant by using that term. Once understood, it is of course absolutely shocking and his intentions are laid bare for all to see.

To use the term and then assume it certainly shows the kind of dexterity only few save politicians are capable of. The quote was made to Iranian TV at a time Khan probably never envisaged having to disavow it. Perhaps there is hope though as he is distancing himself from known radicals, such as Corbyn.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3578903/Pariah-Khan-gives-toxic-leader-slip-moderate-plotters-gunpowder-dry-Corbyn-kill.html

[nontabury]

As usual the voting turnout in the UK was abysmal...

But I reckon when Muslim folk found out one of their followers could actually become Mayor they made the effort to vote..

Probably true. Though I would like to think that not all,voted for him as a Muslim. Yes the turnout was abysmal,but that's not the fault of the Muslims.

More to do with people prioritizing the watching of East Enders.

[nontabury]

He was elected by 56% of those who voted, from a turn out of 45%. Resulting in him being elected by approximately 25% of those eligible to vote.

So what does this show. Could it be that most of the electorate were more concerned with voting for "Britain's got talent" or could it have been the

"Gt British bake off" Any way as far as I'm concerned,who would vote for another Eton toff in Zac Goldsmith,is't Cameron one too many.

What does it show? It shows he easily won the election.Electoral democracy has its rules and it's pointless and in my view slightly thick to suggest that because a victor has a modest % of those eligible to vote , that the lowish figure somehow devalues the legitimacy of victory at the polls.I have the same contempt for those who trot out this kind of lazy argument in Thailand.

Once again incidentally we seem to get confirmation of my theory that hatred of toffs in political life is apparently the main motivator of the British lower and lower middle classes - or their many representatives on this forum - and it indeed trumps (no pun intended) political differences.Good thing these people weren't consulted in 1940 when Britain was in mortal peril.They don't get much toffier than Winston Spencer Churchill.

Good to know,that you think the UK is a classless society.

[jayboy]

He was elected by 56% of those who voted, from a turn out of 45%. Resulting in him being elected by approximately 25% of those eligible to vote.

So what does this show. Could it be that most of the electorate were more concerned with voting for "Britain's got talent" or could it have been the

"Gt British bake off" Any way as far as I'm concerned,who would vote for another Eton toff in Zac Goldsmith,is't Cameron one too many.

What does it show? It shows he easily won the election.Electoral democracy has its rules and it's pointless and in my view slightly thick to suggest that because a victor has a modest % of those eligible to vote , that the lowish figure somehow devalues the legitimacy of victory at the polls.I have the same contempt for those who trot out this kind of lazy argument in Thailand.

Once again incidentally we seem to get confirmation of my theory that hatred of toffs in political life is apparently the main motivator of the British lower and lower middle classes - or their many representatives on this forum - and it indeed trumps (no pun intended) political differences.Good thing these people weren't consulted in 1940 when Britain was in mortal peril.They don't get much toffier than Winston Spencer Churchill.

Good to know,that you think the UK is a classless society.

It's not.

[NeverSure]

I am a member of the last generation to see London as an English city.

Cheers.

[SoiBiker]

I am a member of the last generation to see London as an English city.

Cheers.

No. Just the last to think that English means White.

[Naam]

is it true that non-muslims need visa and work permit for London effective july 1?

[SgtRock]

is it true that non-muslims need visa and work permit for London effective july 1?

Definitely not.

After all, everyone knows the UK will self explode into oblivion if there is a Brexit vote on the 23rd June