SNP claims third win in Scotland as Labour suffers in UK elections

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SNP claims third win in Scotland as Labour suffers in UK elections



Nicola Sturgeon’s Scottish National party (SNP) has emerged victorious in Scottish Parliament elections – but without enough seats to form a majority in the devolved government in Edinburgh.

It came as across the UK, local council elections saw Britain’s opposition Labour Party lose ground.

“The SNP has won a third consecutive Scottish Parliament election. That has never been done before in the history of the Scottish Parliament,” SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon told supporters.

“What we are seeing tonight is the SNP replacing Labour,” she added.

In Scotland, a Conservative revival pushed Labour into third place. The Tories are in power at Westminster but have been in the wilderness north of the border for decades.

It was a good night for the anti-EU UK Independence Party (UKIP), which won seats in England and in Wales.

As results came in, Labour remained on course to be the largest party in the Welsh Assembly, but without an overall majority. Results in Northern Ireland are due on Saturday.

Across the country the results have put more pressure on Labour under its left wing leader Jeremy Corbyn.

One silver lining on the cloud for Labour would be victory for its candidate Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral election. The hot favourite to win, he will make history as the first Muslim in the job if he can beat the Conservatives Zac Goldsmith after a bitterly-fought campaign.

Filling the shoes of flamboyant Conservative mayor Boris Johnson won’t be easy for anyone.

The results in the capital are not expected until later on Friday.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-05-07

[RuamRudy]

With Labour in turmoil and UKIP in civil war, where else can a Yoon turn but to the nasty party?

This isn't an affirmation of cuts for the poor and tax breaks for the rich; it is simply No voters with no credible alternative.

[Steely Dan]

Even after Piggate and the Panama papers Cameron is still far more palatable than Labour. I predict the Labour Party are going to split seeing as there are two factions who hate each other. The current maneuvering within Labour is just to decide who gets to keep the franchise name after the split.

[Grouse]

Even after Piggate and the Panama papers Cameron is still far more palatable than Labour. I predict the Labour Party are going to split seeing as there are two factions who hate each other. The current maneuvering within Labour is just to decide who gets to keep the franchise name after the split.

Won't be the first time

Remember the Social Democrats? Roy, Shirly and Co?

Corbyn could NEVER be PM

[RuamRudy]

Even after Piggate and the Panama papers Cameron is still far more palatable than Labour. I predict the Labour Party are going to split seeing as there are two factions who hate each other. The current maneuvering within Labour is just to decide who gets to keep the franchise name after the split.

Maybe it is my utter loathing for Cameron and all he embodies, but I would sooner credit Ruth Davidson for their relative success. Her constant efforts to distance the Scottish tories from the English variety not only ensured that she can put distance between herself and Downing Street's relentless attacks on the poor and downtrodden, she was also able to emphasise that, unlike SLab, Scottish Conservatives are not controlled from Westminster.

Intersting point about Labour - hopefully it doesn't happen though, unless the Tories can follow suit with inners and outers.

Edited May 7, 2016 by RuamRudy

[Baerboxer]

Even after Piggate and the Panama papers Cameron is still far more palatable than Labour. I predict the Labour Party are going to split seeing as there are two factions who hate each other. The current maneuvering within Labour is just to decide who gets to keep the franchise name after the split.

Maybe it is my utter loathing for Cameron and all he embodies, but I would sooner credit Ruth Davidson for their relative success. Her constant efforts to distance the Scottish tories from the English variety not only ensured that she can put distance between herself and Downing Street's relentless attacks on the poor and downtrodden, she was also able to emphasise that, unlike SLab, Scottish Conservatives are not controlled from Westminster.

Intersting point about Labour - hopefully it doesn't happen though, unless the Tories can follow suit with inners and outers.

Politics are being polarized in the UK. Labor is the most polarized single party at the moment. The party that likes and tries to implement the most centralized control!

I wonder when we'll see the cracks start to appear in the SNP? Nicola, her husband, and cuddly old Alex the Salmon, can't keep it as their personal fiefdom for ever. We've seen some of their boys and girls already trying to get in the trough.

Sick state of British politics. Do you want to vote for old Etonian rich elite types who'll make sure the rich get richer; or left wing socialists more interested in Palestine and allowing Sharia than looking after the rights of the poor; or the independent parties who couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery but want their place in history secured and sod everyone else.

[RuamRudy]

Even after Piggate and the Panama papers Cameron is still far more palatable than Labour. I predict the Labour Party are going to split seeing as there are two factions who hate each other. The current maneuvering within Labour is just to decide who gets to keep the franchise name after the split.

Maybe it is my utter loathing for Cameron and all he embodies, but I would sooner credit Ruth Davidson for their relative success. Her constant efforts to distance the Scottish tories from the English variety not only ensured that she can put distance between herself and Downing Street's relentless attacks on the poor and downtrodden, she was also able to emphasise that, unlike SLab, Scottish Conservatives are not controlled from Westminster.

Intersting point about Labour - hopefully it doesn't happen though, unless the Tories can follow suit with inners and outers.

Politics are being polarized in the UK. Labor is the most polarized single party at the moment. The party that likes and tries to implement the most centralized control!

I wonder when we'll see the cracks start to appear in the SNP? Nicola, her husband, and cuddly old Alex the Salmon, can't keep it as their personal fiefdom for ever. We've seen some of their boys and girls already trying to get in the trough.

Sick state of British politics. Do you want to vote for old Etonian rich elite types who'll make sure the rich get richer; or left wing socialists more interested in Palestine and allowing Sharia than looking after the rights of the poor; or the independent parties who couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery but want their place in history secured and sod everyone else.

Add to that a fickle and timid electorate who maybe dreams big but invariably votes with dull predictability.

You are correct about the SNP needing to work extra hard to maintain cohesion and discipline. Their new found popularity after the referendum saw them fall victim to the same issues as UKIP - in a rush to find candidates, the quality control was lacking in some cases.

[up2u2]

The social structure and Government of the UK has been irrevocably captured.

By electing Cameron a Right Wing Conservative the UK people effectively handed over their social structure and Government to the wealthy and Corporate UK.

It was Tax cuts for the wealthy and tax cuts for Corporate UK. For the average UK worker it was continuing austerity budgets.

Effectively what occurs is a Company tax cut of 10% will see 100's of billions of pounds removed each year from the UK Budget that was to be spent on infrastructure, health care, social safety nets, schools and education. They become no longer affordable. The 100's of billions of pounds is deposited into the bank accounts of Corporate UK. It is then shipped offshore into tax havens and shell companies and lower tax regions and simply disappears from sight. How do they sell this idea?

"Company Tax cuts will increase productivity, investment growth and provide jobs, jobs and more fantastic paying jobs."

Sound familiar? Yep it's all a load of BS. It simply transfers Public Treasury wealth to Corporate UK who thieve it. You think Corporate CEO's lay awake at night working out how to employ more people and improve worker pay and conditions and how best to fairly distribute the wealth the workers create? Yeah well pull this leg it plays Jingle Bells.

Tax cuts for high income earners simply transfers society public capital and concentrates into the few wealthy elite at the top of the food chain. They then call Mossack Fonseca set up an offshore tax haven shell company send the money offshore where the owner of that wealth is removed then import the money back into the UK and purchase assets and the money then gets shipped back to the tax haven avoiding Tax.

Once you have the thee dynamics above in place Corporate Tax cuts, wealthy elite Tax cuts, private citizens austerity your social society is finished. You will end up with 1% haves and 99% have nots.

There are only two ways to repair the process. Citizens recapture government by Violent revolution or by Democratic Evolution.

Will the SNP achieve one of the two ways to reverse the wealthy elite and UK Corporate wealth transfer? No they will not.

[RuamRudy]

The social structure and Government of the UK has been irrevocably captured.

By electing Cameron a Right Wing Conservative the UK people effectively handed over their social structure and Government to the wealthy and Corporate UK.

It was Tax cuts for the wealthy and tax cuts for Corporate UK. For the average UK worker it was continuing austerity budgets.

Effectively what occurs is a Company tax cut of 10% will see 100's of billions of pounds removed each year from the UK Budget that was to be spent on infrastructure, health care, social safety nets, schools and education. They become no longer affordable. The 100's of billions of pounds is deposited into the bank accounts of Corporate UK. It is then shipped offshore into tax havens and shell companies and lower tax regions and simply disappears from sight. How do they sell this idea?

"Company Tax cuts will increase productivity, investment growth and provide jobs, jobs and more fantastic paying jobs."

Sound familiar? Yep it's all a load of BS. It simply transfers Public Treasury wealth to Corporate UK who thieve it. You think Corporate CEO's lay awake at night working out how to employ more people and improve worker pay and conditions and how best to fairly distribute the wealth the workers create? Yeah well pull this leg it plays Jingle Bells.

Tax cuts for high income earners simply transfers society public capital and concentrates into the few wealthy elite at the top of the food chain. They then call Mossack Fonseca set up an offshore tax haven shell company send the money offshore where the owner of that wealth is removed then import the money back into the UK and purchase assets and the money then gets shipped back to the tax haven avoiding Tax.

Once you have the thee dynamics above in place Corporate Tax cuts, wealthy elite Tax cuts, private citizens austerity your social society is finished. You will end up with 1% haves and 99% have nots.

There are only two ways to repair the process. Citizens recapture government by Violent revolution or by Democratic Evolution.

Will the SNP achieve one of the two ways to reverse the wealthy elite and UK Corporate wealth transfer? No they will not.

I think that the notion of trickle down economics is well and truly debunked, but despite the cuts, the hardships, the growing social disparity, the UK still returns the Tories to power. I am sorry, but as a Scot I have given up on the UK electorate putting in place a government that genuinely wants to improve the position of the working and middle classes without screwing everything up.

The SNP is a vehicle to breaking away from the union - nothing more. After that we can have a rainbow of Scottish parties, but none behoven to Westminster.

[up2u2]

The social structure and Government of the UK has been irrevocably captured.

By electing Cameron a Right Wing Conservative the UK people effectively handed over their social structure and Government to the wealthy and Corporate UK.

It was Tax cuts for the wealthy and tax cuts for Corporate UK. For the average UK worker it was continuing austerity budgets.

Effectively what occurs is a Company tax cut of 10% will see 100's of billions of pounds removed each year from the UK Budget that was to be spent on infrastructure, health care, social safety nets, schools and education. They become no longer affordable. The 100's of billions of pounds is deposited into the bank accounts of Corporate UK. It is then shipped offshore into tax havens and shell companies and lower tax regions and simply disappears from sight. How do they sell this idea?

"Company Tax cuts will increase productivity, investment growth and provide jobs, jobs and more fantastic paying jobs."

Sound familiar? Yep it's all a load of BS. It simply transfers Public Treasury wealth to Corporate UK who thieve it. You think Corporate CEO's lay awake at night working out how to employ more people and improve worker pay and conditions and how best to fairly distribute the wealth the workers create? Yeah well pull this leg it plays Jingle Bells.

Tax cuts for high income earners simply transfers society public capital and concentrates into the few wealthy elite at the top of the food chain. They then call Mossack Fonseca set up an offshore tax haven shell company send the money offshore where the owner of that wealth is removed then import the money back into the UK and purchase assets and the money then gets shipped back to the tax haven avoiding Tax.

Once you have the thee dynamics above in place Corporate Tax cuts, wealthy elite Tax cuts, private citizens austerity your social society is finished. You will end up with 1% haves and 99% have nots.

There are only two ways to repair the process. Citizens recapture government by Violent revolution or by Democratic Evolution.

Will the SNP achieve one of the two ways to reverse the wealthy elite and UK Corporate wealth transfer? No they will not.

I think that the notion of trickle down economics is well and truly debunked, but despite the cuts, the hardships, the growing social disparity, the UK still returns the Tories to power. I am sorry, but as a Scot I have given up on the UK electorate putting in place a government that genuinely wants to improve the position of the working and middle classes without screwing everything up.

The SNP is a vehicle to breaking away from the union - nothing more. After that we can have a rainbow of Scottish parties, but none behoven to Westminster.

Exactly Reaganomics Trickle Down Economics. I simply cannot fathom why any modern democracy elects a Right Wing Conservative Government. Absolutely beyond me. The only way Scotland is going to remove itself politically and economically from Westminster is to saw it off and tow Scotland out into the North Atlantic. I wish the Scots well. Wonderful people the Scots.

[Grouse]

The social structure and Government of the UK has been irrevocably captured.

By electing Cameron a Right Wing Conservative the UK people effectively handed over their social structure and Government to the wealthy and Corporate UK.

It was Tax cuts for the wealthy and tax cuts for Corporate UK. For the average UK worker it was continuing austerity budgets.

Effectively what occurs is a Company tax cut of 10% will see 100's of billions of pounds removed each year from the UK Budget that was to be spent on infrastructure, health care, social safety nets, schools and education. They become no longer affordable. The 100's of billions of pounds is deposited into the bank accounts of Corporate UK. It is then shipped offshore into tax havens and shell companies and lower tax regions and simply disappears from sight. How do they sell this idea?

"Company Tax cuts will increase productivity, investment growth and provide jobs, jobs and more fantastic paying jobs."

Sound familiar? Yep it's all a load of BS. It simply transfers Public Treasury wealth to Corporate UK who thieve it. You think Corporate CEO's lay awake at night working out how to employ more people and improve worker pay and conditions and how best to fairly distribute the wealth the workers create? Yeah well pull this leg it plays Jingle Bells.

Tax cuts for high income earners simply transfers society public capital and concentrates into the few wealthy elite at the top of the food chain. They then call Mossack Fonseca set up an offshore tax haven shell company send the money offshore where the owner of that wealth is removed then import the money back into the UK and purchase assets and the money then gets shipped back to the tax haven avoiding Tax.

Once you have the thee dynamics above in place Corporate Tax cuts, wealthy elite Tax cuts, private citizens austerity your social society is finished. You will end up with 1% haves and 99% have nots.

There are only two ways to repair the process. Citizens recapture government by Violent revolution or by Democratic Evolution.

Will the SNP achieve one of the two ways to reverse the wealthy elite and UK Corporate wealth transfer? No they will not.

I think that the notion of trickle down economics is well and truly debunked, but despite the cuts, the hardships, the growing social disparity, the UK still returns the Tories to power. I am sorry, but as a Scot I have given up on the UK electorate putting in place a government that genuinely wants to improve the position of the working and middle classes without screwing everything up.

The SNP is a vehicle to breaking away from the union - nothing more. After that we can have a rainbow of Scottish parties, but none behoven to Westminster.

Exactly Reaganomics Trickle Down Economics. I simply cannot fathom why any modern democracy elects a Right Wing Conservative Government. Absolutely beyond me. The only way Scotland is going to remove itself politically and economically from Westminster is to saw it off and tow Scotland out into the North Atlantic. I wish the Scots well. Wonderful people the Scots.

Actually, there is a risk that the intellectually challenged Trumpeters link up with the intellectually challenged Brexiteers and get England to be 51st state.

The canny scots can remain linked to the EU which is much closer to their ideas of social democracy

Not a bad outcome?