Non-immigrant B visa for mission

[MissJungle]

Hi.

Do anybody already tried to get a B visa for mission?

From the informations I could find there is no need to get a work permit with such a visa... Which makes sens as it is for foreign workers (working for a foreign company) sent to Thailand on a mission (agreement with a thai company).

I don't find much information about that case that shouldn't be so rare... Nothing about the kind of foreign company needed (or any kind can suit?), nothing about any special requierment from the thai company recieving the worker neither (same papers asked than for the B visa for work, no specification found about the kind of company).

If anybody already tried that or has any clue about that case, thanks to share.

Mathilde.

[PoorSucker]

How long are you planning to work in Thailand.

There is a 14 day temporary work permit that the Thai company should apply for..

[Maestro]

I am not aware of a "B visa for mission"

MissJungle, please look at this webpage of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and see id you can identify the particular visa you mean.

[derator01]

Please stick to the topic.

[MissJungle]

I am not aware of a "B visa for mission"

MissJungle, please look at this webpage of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and see id you can identify the particular visa you mean.

Hi Maestro.

The link to non-immigrant B is dead on that page.

But I found that one: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-%28for-Business-and.html

They don't speak about the B visa for mission but "to conduct business" which looks quite similar.

I cannot find anymore the official page where I first found the B visa "for mission" in english but is is very clearly offered on the website of the Thai Embassy in France (thus in French language...)

I'm actuly very surprised to find so few information about that case...

[johnatong]

I am not aware of a "B visa for mission"

MissJungle, please look at this webpage of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and see id you can identify the particular visa you mean.

Hi Maestro.

The link to non-immigrant B is dead on that page.

But I found that one: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-%28for-Business-and.html

They don't speak about the B visa for mission but "to conduct business" which looks quite similar.

I cannot find anymore the official page where I first found the B visa "for mission" in english but is is very clearly offered on the website of the Thai Embassy in France (thus in French language...)

I'm actuly very surprised to find so few information about that case...

One of the translations of the French word "mission" is Business trip in English.

The link provided by Maestro is alive and works .

[MissJungle]

How long are you planning to work in Thailand.

There is a 14 day temporary work permit that the Thai company should apply for..

Hi PoorSucker.

I have been living in Thailand for 8 years already...

The Thai Company is mine...

I plan to go for 3 to 6 months on the row. I don't want to apply anymore for a WP whatever the length.

[MissJungle]

I am not aware of a "B visa for mission"

MissJungle, please look at this webpage of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and see id you can identify the particular visa you mean.

Hi Maestro.

The link to non-immigrant B is dead on that page.

But I found that one: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-%28for-Business-and.html

They don't speak about the B visa for mission but "to conduct business" which looks quite similar.

I cannot find anymore the official page where I first found the B visa "for mission" in english but is is very clearly offered on the website of the Thai Embassy in France (thus in French language...)

I'm actuly very surprised to find so few information about that case...

One of the translations of the French word "mission" is Business trip in English.

The link provided by Maestro is alive and works .

Hi Johnatong.

I didn't write that the link provided by Maestro was dead but the links on the page it is leading to...

Anyway, the answer is the same: non-immigrant B "to conduct business" seams to be the more commun denomination used in English.

[johnatong]

I am not aware of a "B visa for mission"

MissJungle, please look at this webpage of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and see id you can identify the particular visa you mean.

Hi Maestro.

The link to non-immigrant B is dead on that page.

But I found that one: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-%28for-Business-and.html

They don't speak about the B visa for mission but "to conduct business" which looks quite similar.

I cannot find anymore the official page where I first found the B visa "for mission" in english but is is very clearly offered on the website of the Thai Embassy in France (thus in French language...)

I'm actuly very surprised to find so few information about that case...

One of the translations of the French word "mission" is Business trip in English.

The link provided by Maestro is alive and works .

Hi Johnatong.

I didn't write that the link provided by Maestro was dead but the links on the page it is leading to...

Anyway, the answer is the same: non-immigrant B "to conduct business" seams to be the more commun denomination used in English.

This is what you said "The link to non-immigrant B is dead on that page"

It is not !

[Maestro]

OK, now we know the question is not about a visa to go and work in Thailand as a missionary, but a visa to travel to Thailand for the purpose of conducting business.

It is important to note that this type of non-B visa does not allow its holder to work in Thailand, only to conduct business.

The documents required with the application for this visa may vary from one Thai embassy or consulate to another. Generally, it is a letter of the employer outside Thailand stating that [name] is employed by the company as [job position] and needs to travel to Thailand to [details of business to conduct; types or names of companies to conduct business with] on behalf of the company, and to express appreciation if the consulate would kindly issue the requested visa to [name of employee], and, as this letter will probably be in French addressed to the Thai embassy or a Thai consulate in France, the customary closing sentence "Nous vous prions, Messieurs, d'accepter l'expression de nos sentiments les plus distingués" (translation: We beg you, Sirs, to accept the expression of our most distinguished sentiments)

If the employee needs to visit a specifically named company in Thailand, the consulate may also want a letter or other documents from this company.

[ubonjoe]

The word mission in a English dictionary does fit what the OP wants to do but is not commonly used."a task or job that someone is given to do" from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mission .

[Koosdedooes]

The word mission in a English dictionary does fit what the OP wants to do but is not commonly used."a task or job that someone is given to do" from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mission .

As stated in the post that was deleted the French speakers use the English word mission to describe a short term work assignment, the OP also referred to the Thai Embassy in france, so it seems what i said originally was correct

[ubonjoe]

The word mission in a English dictionary does fit what the OP wants to do but is not commonly used."a task or job that someone is given to do" from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mission .

As stated in the post that was deleted the French speakers use the English word mission to describe a short term work assignment, the OP also referred to the Thai Embassy in france, so it seems what i said originally was correct

Your post was not removed for it's content. It was because of the removed post that that you quoted.

[MissJungle]

OK, now we know the question is not about a visa to go and work in Thailand as a missionary, but a visa to travel to Thailand for the purpose of conducting business.

It is important to note that this type of non-B visa does not allow its holder to work in Thailand, only to conduct business.

The documents required with the application for this visa may vary from one Thai embassy or consulate to another. Generally, it is a letter of the employer outside Thailand stating that [name] is employed by the company as [job position] and needs to travel to Thailand to [details of business to conduct; types or names of companies to conduct business with] on behalf of the company, and to express appreciation if the consulate would kindly issue the requested visa to [name of employee], and, as this letter will probably be in French addressed to the Thai embassy or a Thai consulate in France, the customary closing sentence "Nous vous prions, Messieurs, d'accepter l'expression de nos sentiments les plus distingués" (translation: We beg you, Sirs, to accept the expression of our most distinguished sentiments)

If the employee needs to visit a specifically named company in Thailand, the consulate may also want a letter or other documents from this company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answer.

What difference do you make beetween "conduct business" and work??

Isn't it possible for a Thai company to ask a foreign company to send a worker for short time (3-6 months) on a specific job?

That is clearly the purpose of the "for mission" B visa that is offered on the website of theThai Ambassy of France...

On that website the documents needed are quite clear but there is no notice about what kind of company (foreigner and thai) is needed. As the requirements are quite strong for a non-B for work (in order to get a WP) I was wondering if there is any requirement for that kind in the case of a B visa "to conduct business". Do you have any information about that?

In order to follow the posts... May I know what means "OP"?

Thanks.

[johnatong]

OK, now we know the question is not about a visa to go and work in Thailand as a missionary, but a visa to travel to Thailand for the purpose of conducting business.

It is important to note that this type of non-B visa does not allow its holder to work in Thailand, only to conduct business.

The documents required with the application for this visa may vary from one Thai embassy or consulate to another. Generally, it is a letter of the employer outside Thailand stating that [name] is employed by the company as [job position] and needs to travel to Thailand to [details of business to conduct; types or names of companies to conduct business with] on behalf of the company, and to express appreciation if the consulate would kindly issue the requested visa to [name of employee], and, as this letter will probably be in French addressed to the Thai embassy or a Thai consulate in France, the customary closing sentence "Nous vous prions, Messieurs, d'accepter l'expression de nos sentiments les plus distingués" (translation: We beg you, Sirs, to accept the expression of our most distinguished sentiments)

If the employee needs to visit a specifically named company in Thailand, the consulate may also want a letter or other documents from this company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answer.

What difference do you make beetween "conduct business" and work??

Isn't it possible for a Thai company to ask a foreign company to send a worker for short time (3-6 months) on a specific job?

That is clearly the purpose of the "for mission" B visa that is offered on the website of theThai Ambassy of France...

On that website the documents needed are quite clear but there is no notice about what kind of company (foreigner and thai) is needed. As the requirements are quite strong for a non-B for work (in order to get a WP) I was wondering if there is any requirement for that kind in the case of a B visa "to conduct business". Do you have any information about that?

In order to follow the posts... May I know what means "OP"?

Thanks.

If the intent is to send a worker to undertake a job(work) for 3-6 months then a work permit will be required.

Conducting business involves meeting with people and exploring, maybe in a meeting, business opportunities etc

[MissJungle]

OK, now we know the question is not about a visa to go and work in Thailand as a missionary, but a visa to travel to Thailand for the purpose of conducting business.

It is important to note that this type of non-B visa does not allow its holder to work in Thailand, only to conduct business.

The documents required with the application for this visa may vary from one Thai embassy or consulate to another. Generally, it is a letter of the employer outside Thailand stating that [name] is employed by the company as [job position] and needs to travel to Thailand to [details of business to conduct; types or names of companies to conduct business with] on behalf of the company, and to express appreciation if the consulate would kindly issue the requested visa to [name of employee], and, as this letter will probably be in French addressed to the Thai embassy or a Thai consulate in France, the customary closing sentence "Nous vous prions, Messieurs, d'accepter l'expression de nos sentiments les plus distingués" (translation: We beg you, Sirs, to accept the expression of our most distinguished sentiments)

If the employee needs to visit a specifically named company in Thailand, the consulate may also want a letter or other documents from this company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answer.

What difference do you make beetween "conduct business" and work??

Isn't it possible for a Thai company to ask a foreign company to send a worker for short time (3-6 months) on a specific job?

That is clearly the purpose of the "for mission" B visa that is offered on the website of theThai Ambassy of France...

On that website the documents needed are quite clear but there is no notice about what kind of company (foreigner and thai) is needed. As the requirements are quite strong for a non-B for work (in order to get a WP) I was wondering if there is any requirement for that kind in the case of a B visa "to conduct business". Do you have any information about that?

In order to follow the posts... May I know what means "OP"?

Thanks.

If the intent is to send a worker to undertake a job(work) for 3-6 months then a work permit will be required.

Conducting business involves meeting with people and exploring, maybe in a meeting, business opportunities etc

The intend is to help the thai company to develop new activities - the foreigner being expert in the fields concerned.

The foreigner is already working for his foreign company. (The thai company pays the foreign company for that service, not the foreigner).

Actually the Thai company already hires 1 foreigner with WP and is not big enough to make another WP. (And no, I cannot upgrade it - not enough business; to protect the foreigner under WP better stick as much as possible to the law and the truth, now more than ever).

[Maestro]

OP = original post, ie the first post in the topic; or

OP = original poster, the person who made the first post, ie the person who started the topic

[FritsSikkink]

OK, now we know the question is not about a visa to go and work in Thailand as a missionary, but a visa to travel to Thailand for the purpose of conducting business.

It is important to note that this type of non-B visa does not allow its holder to work in Thailand, only to conduct business.

The documents required with the application for this visa may vary from one Thai embassy or consulate to another. Generally, it is a letter of the employer outside Thailand stating that [name] is employed by the company as [job position] and needs to travel to Thailand to [details of business to conduct; types or names of companies to conduct business with] on behalf of the company, and to express appreciation if the consulate would kindly issue the requested visa to [name of employee], and, as this letter will probably be in French addressed to the Thai embassy or a Thai consulate in France, the customary closing sentence "Nous vous prions, Messieurs, d'accepter l'expression de nos sentiments les plus distingués" (translation: We beg you, Sirs, to accept the expression of our most distinguished sentiments)

If the employee needs to visit a specifically named company in Thailand, the consulate may also want a letter or other documents from this company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answer.

What difference do you make beetween "conduct business" and work??

Isn't it possible for a Thai company to ask a foreign company to send a worker for short time (3-6 months) on a specific job?

That is clearly the purpose of the "for mission" B visa that is offered on the website of theThai Ambassy of France...

On that website the documents needed are quite clear but there is no notice about what kind of company (foreigner and thai) is needed. As the requirements are quite strong for a non-B for work (in order to get a WP) I was wondering if there is any requirement for that kind in the case of a B visa "to conduct business". Do you have any information about that?

In order to follow the posts... May I know what means "OP"?

Thanks.

If the intent is to send a worker to undertake a job(work) for 3-6 months then a work permit will be required.

Conducting business involves meeting with people and exploring, maybe in a meeting, business opportunities etc

The intend is to help the thai company to develop new activities - the foreigner being expert in the fields concerned.

The foreigner is already working for his foreign company. (The thai company pays the foreign company for that service, not the foreigner).

Actually the Thai company already hires 1 foreigner with WP and is not big enough to make another WP. (And no, I cannot upgrade it - not enough business; to protect the foreigner under WP better stick as much as possible to the law and the truth, now more than ever).

if the company isn't big enough to get a second WP, you can't hire a foreigner.

[NanLaew]

i think the OP is asking if his own Thai company can sponsor his own B visa on the premise of 'conducting business'... and doesn't want a WP either.

[Maestro]

Regardless of who pays his salary, without a work permit the foreigner is not allowed to work in the Thai company but he is free to discuss ideas and plans for new business development with the management and staff of the company.

[Koosdedooes]

Regardless of who pays his salary, without a work permit the foreigner is not allowed to work in the Thai company but he is free to discuss ideas and plans for new business development with the management and staff of the company.

Yeah, but for 3 to 6 months ? LOL

[MissJungle]

Regardless of who pays his salary, without a work permit the foreigner is not allowed to work in the Thai company but he is free to discuss ideas and plans for new business development with the management and staff of the company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answers.

The fact is that the B visa to conduct business is supposed to be for 3 months - extendable up to 1 year... It actualy looks strange that such a lenth of stay could be granded only for discussions... (But it wouldn't be the only strange thing about Thai immigration laws!)

"(5) Holder of this type of visa is entitled to stay in Thailand for a maximum period of 90 days. He or she may apply for an extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau and may be granted such extension for a period of one year from the date of first entry into Thailand."

[johnatong]

Regardless of who pays his salary, without a work permit the foreigner is not allowed to work in the Thai company but he is free to discuss ideas and plans for new business development with the management and staff of the company.

Hi Maestro.

Thanks for your answers.

The fact is that the B visa to conduct business is supposed to be for 3 months - extendable up to 1 year... It actualy looks strange that such a lenth of stay could be granded only for discussions... (But it wouldn't be the only strange thing about Thai immigration laws!)

"(5) Holder of this type of visa is entitled to stay in Thailand for a maximum period of 90 days. He or she may apply for an extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau and may be granted such extension for a period of one year from the date of first entry into Thailand."

In the circumstances you describe it is unlikely that an extension would be granted.

[MissJungle]

i think the OP is asking if his own Thai company can sponsor his own B visa on the premise of 'conducting business'... and doesn't want a WP either.

It is quite tempting - I have to admit!

And I might do it as I'm not anymore working for my own company but mainly "conducting business" (right now I'm out of Thailand).

But I'm mainly looking for a way to get a French company's help for my company development in a new field - for this I need that French company to send one of its specialists for a few months.

My company cannot hire that specialist (i.e. ask for a WP for him).

[Maestro]

OK, I'm seeing it more clearly now. Does your company's development into a new field include a plan to buy and market a product or service from the French company from which you would like to borrow an expert for a few months?