Big day: Surrogate baby Carmen flies home with gay couple

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Big day: Surrogate baby Carmen flies home with gay couple
By Coconuts Bangkok


Photo: Bringcarmenhome/ Facebook

BANGKOK: -- The same-sex parents who won custody of their daughter in a high-profile surrogacy case last month flew home with baby Carmen last night.

Gordon Lake and Manuel Santos, both 41, shared a selfie taken in a plane as they were leaving Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi International Airport to Valencia, Spain, where their first surrogate son is waiting for them.

"Today is a big day for our family, we just started the journey for our family to be together after 16 months. Tomorrow we will be with our son Alvaro in our home with our family," read a statement on Facebook.

Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/05/13/big-day-surrogate-baby-carmen-flies-home-gay-couple


-- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-05-13

[arunsakda]

Great news all the best to the Happy Family.

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[Rimmer]

An off topic post has been removed

[skildpadden]

Great news. Very happy for the couple and the kid - and I am sure the older brother is looking forward to meet his sister.

[greenchair]

And do hope the mother will file a countersuit to the surrogate agency and these two characters, for getting her to sign a document under false pretences and withholding information which would have been crucial to her decision making. They revealed they were gay on the day they picked up the baby. She would never have agreed if she knew. She had a right to know. They deceived her and used her body knowingly and deceptively.

Shame on them.

[ezzra]

A comprehensive study should be undertaken to determined the outcome of gay couples having

babies and caring for them, so far, I'm not aware of any serious study that will examine all the

social developments of a child in the care non heterosexually couples.... as what we have now,

is guy couples gallivanting into mostly very poor countries to take advantage of cheap surrogate

services in order to be a parent of a child.....

[Goanna]

Surely they can be trusted to teach the child that being gay is not normal.

[Scouse Twoccer]

Terrible news for the child who will undoubtedly grow up very confused, not to mention the ridicule she (and her brother) will likely suffer when they are older.

[Prbkk]

Flying in economy with a baby. They have spent all their pink dollars on the case.

[borisloosebrain]

And do hope the mother will file a countersuit to the surrogate agency and these two characters, for getting her to sign a document under false pretences and withholding information which would have been crucial to her decision making. They revealed they were gay on the day they picked up the baby. She would never have agreed if she knew. She had a right to know. They deceived her and used her body knowingly and deceptively.

Shame on them.

A comment from the fact free zone

[Prbkk]

Terrible news for the child who will undoubtedly grow up very confused, not to mention the ridicule she (and her brother) will likely suffer when they are older.

Nonsense. The reports I have seen suggest that these kids are not bullied by their peers and there is no confusion. You are showing your own prejudices.

[DM07]

Terrible news for the child who will undoubtedly grow up very confused, not to mention the ridicule she (and her brother) will likely suffer when they are older.

Oh look...the king of condescending one-liners!

Care to show any link to any source with some kind of reputation, to back your "undoubted" assumptions?

[Toknarok]

Thank goodness Thailand has now banned surrogacy and this sort of thing won't happen again here. This whole surrogacy business with the renting of wombs, buying of eggs and sperm, often where women in poorer countries are taken advantage of, is a whole can of worms, and IMO should be banned everywhere.

[Jingthing]

What a heart warming HAPPY ending to a seemingly endless legal ordeal. Kudos to the parents for their heroic patience and perseverance to get to this happy day.

Ignore the haters.

[Katipo]

A comprehensive study should be undertaken to determined the outcome of gay couples having

babies and caring for them, so far, I'm not aware of any serious study that will examine all the

social developments of a child in the care non heterosexually couples.... as what we have now,

is guy couples gallivanting into mostly very poor countries to take advantage of cheap surrogate

services in order to be a parent of a child.....

Perhaps. But then again we have all seen the results of poor Father-Mother parenting. These seem fun, loving, and financially stable, so why not I say.

[Patsycat]

Jeez, and the vitriol and homophobia continues...

Do any of you, ever, have any happy thoughts about anything that goes on in the world? Or do you have a consistant black cloud over your heads?

I wish all happiness to Carmen and her family.

[cumgranosalum]

just logged in to see if there was any homophobic claptrap......wasn't disappointed, keep it up guys!

[SoiBiker]

Great news. Shame the legion of Thaivisa homophobes can't let it pass without comment.

This place is becoming a bastion of bigotry lately.

[Rayk]

I see there are plenty of homophobics here on TV. I'm not gay, far from it for that matter but what I do know is that homosexuality has been around since the beginning of man so you homophobic should get used to it. It's not going away.

Edited May 13, 2016 by Rayk

[Patsycat]

Don't worry, Soi Biker, soon they will be so scared about even walking down the street in case they are "infected"!! So they will have to stay inside and get cramps in their fingers bashing away at their keyboards.

[reggaebkk]

I guess talking our true feelings about this will get the post removed for being too real...

So let's just say this:

I'm very happy to be born and have lived in places without wars and horrors.

I'm even more happy to be of this generation that had it good but won't regret when death comes because humanity is going so much to s***e that it will be a relief to escape it.

Apart from that, enjoy having the next generation raised by sodomites.

Damn, I'm gonna get banned!

[SoiBiker]

I guess talking our true feelings about this will get the post removed for being too real...

So let's just say this:

I'm very happy to be born and have lived in places without wars and horrors.

I'm even more happy to be of this generation that had it good but won't regret when death comes because humanity is going so much to s***e that it will be a relief to escape it.

Apart from that, enjoy having the next generation raised by sodomites.

Damn, I'm gonna get banned!

You'd rather die than see gay people happy?

[cumgranosalum]

A comprehensive study should be undertaken to determined the outcome of gay couples having

babies and caring for them, so far, I'm not aware of any serious study that will examine all the

social developments of a child in the care non heterosexually couples.... as what we have now,

is guy couples gallivanting into mostly very poor countries to take advantage of cheap surrogate

services in order to be a parent of a child.....

This is a rather disturbing post as shows the lack of knowledge people have yet they still are prepared to comment inaccurately on a topic.

the truth is that there is A LO(T of research on Gay couples/parenting carried about over the last 20 years or more.

What is equally disturbing is that it seems not only is this poster ill-informed, he hasn't even bothered to do even the most basic of searches on Google to find out if he's barking up the wrong tree or not..

One 5second search on Goggle alone revealed nearly 2 million hits.

i'm not suggesting Google is the be-all and end-all but it is a start - I admit though that you do need to know how to search and analyse.......so here are some to start off with....

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/06/worlds_largest_study_on_same_sex_parents_finds_kids_are_healthier_and_happier_than_peers/

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2015/04/the-research-on-same-sex-parenting-no-differences-no-more

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/07/08/your-kids-might-be-better-gay-parents

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/homosexual-parent-study-summary-of-findings

https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/same-sex-parented-families-australia/childrens-wellbeing-same-sex-parented-families

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/children-of-same-sex-couples-are-happier-and-healthier-than-peers-research-shows/

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/02/10/3621375/regnerus-sullins-same-sex-parenting/

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2015/06/26/overwhelming-evidence-that-same-sex-parenting-wont-harm-kids

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000580

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/cou/39/1/91/

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=gay+parenting+articles&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLpZa0ydbMAhXHr48KHUajB3gQgQMIGjAA

Read and learn

[reggaebkk]

I guess talking our true feelings about this will get the post removed for being too real...

So let's just say this:

I'm very happy to be born and have lived in places without wars and horrors.

I'm even more happy to be of this generation that had it good but won't regret when death comes because humanity is going so much to s***e that it will be a relief to escape it.

Apart from that, enjoy having the next generation raised by sodomites.

Damn, I'm gonna get banned!

You'd rather die than see gay people happy?

No, I will die when I will die, it's not related to gay people's happiness.

And I wish tons of happiness to all gay people.

But gay people adopting and raising children is just plain wrong.

But that's only a tiny part of what's wrong and getting worse by the minute, and they are mostly not related to sexual orientation, some are. But gays are not the part that's wrong, homosexuality is part of nature, nature always includes an anomaly, that's the way it evolves. But that anomaly doesn't necessarily need to become the norm.

[ageless1]

Thank goodness Thailand has now banned surrogacy and this sort of thing won't happen again here. This whole surrogacy business with the renting of wombs, buying of eggs and sperm, often where women in poorer countries are taken advantage of, is a whole can of worms, and IMO should be banned everywhere.

I see, the renting of the wombs of women from poorer countries should be banned because they are taken advantage of? What about the renting of vaginas? Is that any different??

[cumgranosalum]

...and for those who think it's "unnatural"...... 450 species!

http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/

[cumgranosalum]

I guess talking our true feelings about this will get the post removed for being too real...

So let's just say this:

I'm very happy to be born and have lived in places without wars and horrors.

I'm even more happy to be of this generation that had it good but won't regret when death comes because humanity is going so much to s***e that it will be a relief to escape it.

Apart from that, enjoy having the next generation raised by sodomites.

Damn, I'm gonna get banned!

You'd rather die than see gay people happy?

No, I will die when I will die, it's not related to gay people's happiness.

And I wish tons of happiness to all gay people.

But gay people adopting and raising children is just plain wrong.

But that's only a tiny part of what's wrong and getting worse by the minute, and they are mostly not related to sexual orientation, some are. But gays are not the part that's wrong, homosexuality is part of nature, nature always includes an anomaly, that's the way it evolves. But that anomaly doesn't necessarily need to become the norm.

"But gay people adopting and raising children is just plain wrong. " - you can't argue with that! ...it's incorrect, but it isn't an argument, it's a prejudice, so you just can't argue with it.

As Bill Murray quoted - "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

i bet you like Trump, think Britain should leave the EU and hate "Muslims" - do you see that isn't a reflection of reality, it is a reflection of your own mindset?

Edited May 13, 2016 by cumgranosalum

[Guitar God]

Adam Savage shaved off his beard?

[Jingthing]

I see the family resemblance. Sweet!

(Ignore the haters.)

[SoiBiker]

Has any research been done on the effect of being raised by miserable, negative bigots?