Police shut down UDD’s anti-cheating centre and cancels planned press conference

[hansnl]

Love it or hate it. It highlights there is no accountability nor is there ANY freedom. JUNTA RULES

While,of course, in your opinion the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something in common?

[sanukjim]

Using the words "Thailand Government " and " Anti-Cheating" in the same sentence ? Would that be an " Oxymoron" ?

Edited June 20, 2016 by sanukjim

[Srikcir]

Prayut Chan-ocha of backtracking on his earlier promise not to close down the anti-cheating centre.

Just a quick check shows that Prayut didn't make any such promise at least on one occassion. On June 13th Prayut said that the centres can be set up, but they must not do anything against the law. He said he will consider what to do if they do anything like that.

Coincidentally, on June 14th a group of ten people calling themselves "The Patriots" filed a police conplaint accusing the UDD's anti-fraud centre of violating the referendum Act. Led by Chatchet Songsri, The Patriots claimed that the UDD really wants to discredit the CDC, the NLA and NCPO. The group claimed there was an ulterior motive for the UDD Centre - to influence the public to vote against the draft charter in the referendum. The group also made the same complaint to the EC asking it to also take action.

It looks like Prayut did some considering.

A side note: Last year Songsri was a coordinator of the group Rao Rak Chart (We Love the Nation) to petition the Crimes Suppression Division to investigate the source of financial support for the New Democracy Movement's anti-government activities.

[Eric Loh]

I guess the UDD got the last laugh. They got to get the media to expose Prayuth double talk and that the junta has lots to hide in the running of the referendum by shutting down the centers and disallowing foreign observers. Jatuporn has outsmarted the junta once more and junta left chasing shadow.

[LannaGuy]

Thank God there are some heroes who seek to defend democracy and when the history is finally written in years to come many ignorant posters on here will shudder in utter embarrassment that they defended this Junta.

It is Thailand's pride that there are still some willing to stand up against the Junta for freedoms. Shutting down a centre for preventing fraud...? what are they afraid off? I think all thinking people can work that one out!

Think before you post and don't bleet like sheep every time the unelected 'shepard' demands it

[Winniedapu]

Love it or hate it. It highlights there is no accountability nor is there ANY freedom. JUNTA RULES

While,of course, in your opinion the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something in common?

Best not to personalise if you want to retain credibility. Very few Thais could withstand an ethical or a financial audit. Especially army Thais, who've had a reputation for being corrupt since forever, and who appear not to have changed in recent years.

I doubt Jatuporn is any worse than any other wealthy Thai, it's just politically convenient to pillory him.

Winnie

Edited June 20, 2016 by Winniedapu

[dominique355]

UDD seems realy opposite to what they stand for United Front for Dictators against Democracy as they want to dictate to others what must happen and I thought Jatuporn was supposed to be in prison but I could be wrong

I really do not like Jatuporn and the Red Shirts and I have always opposed them. But I fail to see why monitoring a referendum should not be allowed. All previous referendums, even under military supervision allowed such monitoring. What has the Junta and the EC to hide?

These nebulous rules about the referendum only have one goal: Scare off those who oppose the new military constitution by declaring any sign of opposition as illegal political activity while any pro-campaign is just "informing" the citizens.

The monitoring of the referendum should not be restricted to poll stations but the the whole country and shuld cover the whole time from now until August 17, all and any activities of the EC, NCPO, military, police and any other government agency involved as well as media (incl. social media) and those involved in the making of the draft and the referendum.

A very interesting picture will arise from this, I am sure.

[KMartinHandyman]

Where's the guy with the animated version?

[jesimps]

Love it or hate it. It highlights there is no accountability nor is there ANY freedom. JUNTA RULES

While,of course, in your opinion the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something in common?

He supports a party that was elected by the people and opposes the junta who took power by force of arms. So yes, I for one would say that the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something VERY MUCH in common.

Edited June 20, 2016 by jesimps

[Eric Loh]

Love it or hate it. It highlights there is no accountability nor is there ANY freedom. JUNTA RULES

While,of course, in your opinion the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something in common?

He supports a party that was elected by the people and opposes the junta who took power by force of arms. So yes, I for one would say that the word democracy and the name Jatuporn have something VERY MUCH in common.

Kept his political stance since 1992 when he joined the pro-democracy students against another junta government in his twenties. Has not sold out his principles since then. Seen inside of the jail and still fearless. He got some qualities to be admired.

[halloween]

Kept his political stance since 1992 when he joined the pro-democracy students against another junta government in his twenties. Has not sold out his principles since then. Seen inside of the jail and still fearless. He got some qualities to be admired.

So what does a political activist sell to become rich, if not principles? What does it take for someone to pose as a representative of the downtrodden, while taking the money and orders of a criminal intent on plundering the nation?

[Eric Loh]

Kept his political stance since 1992 when he joined the pro-democracy students against another junta government in his twenties. Has not sold out his principles since then. Seen inside of the jail and still fearless. He got some qualities to be admired.

So what does a political activist sell to become rich, if not principles? What does it take for someone to pose as a representative of the downtrodden, while taking the money and orders of a criminal intent on plundering the nation?

In typical style,you speaking from your imaginary thoughts but nothing to back it up. So happen I have. Jatuporn declared assets was 8.2 M Baht. Contrast that with Suthep, your hero, had 95 million declared assets. Total assets 8.2 M is rich????

[halloween]

Kept his political stance since 1992 when he joined the pro-democracy students against another junta government in his twenties. Has not sold out his principles since then. Seen inside of the jail and still fearless. He got some qualities to be admired.

So what does a political activist sell to become rich, if not principles? What does it take for someone to pose as a representative of the downtrodden, while taking the money and orders of a criminal intent on plundering the nation?

In typical style,you speaking from your imaginary thoughts but nothing to back it up. So happen I have. Jatuporn declared assets was 8.2 M Baht. Contrast that with Suthep, your hero, had 95 million declared assets. Total assets 8.2 M is rich????

But, but, but......Suthep. The topic is Jatuporn, remember.

How many Thais do you know with B8.2 mill? Where did it come from Eric? Oh that's right, people just give him gifts and money, which I assume means he doesn't have to pay tax, or explain what he's doing for his income.

[Eric Loh]

Kept his political stance since 1992 when he joined the pro-democracy students against another junta government in his twenties. Has not sold out his principles since then. Seen inside of the jail and still fearless. He got some qualities to be admired.

So what does a political activist sell to become rich, if not principles? What does it take for someone to pose as a representative of the downtrodden, while taking the money and orders of a criminal intent on plundering the nation?

In typical style,you speaking from your imaginary thoughts but nothing to back it up. So happen I have. Jatuporn declared assets was 8.2 M Baht. Contrast that with Suthep, your hero, had 95 million declared assets. Total assets 8.2 M is rich????

But, but, but......Suthep. The topic is Jatuporn, remember.

How many Thais do you know with B8.2 mill? Where did it come from Eric? Oh that's right, people just give him gifts and money, which I assume means he doesn't have to pay tax, or explain what he's doing for his income.

The Suthep comparison is necessary too educate you on the extreme of wealth. Regarding where his money came from, just think through how Ahbisit got wealthy without working. Caveat here; it's not a comparision but really an educated information.

[HerbalEd]

"He went on saying that the UDD’s anti-referendum cheating centres would be transformed into centres to receive complaints about cheating."

Yes, that makes much more sense . Better to report the cheating than to prevent it.

[halloween]

But, but, but......Suthep. The topic is Jatuporn, remember.

How many Thais do you know with B8.2 mill? Where did it come from Eric? Oh that's right, people just give him gifts and money, which I assume means he doesn't have to pay tax, or explain what he's doing for his income.

The Suthep comparison is necessary too educate you on the extreme of wealth. Regarding where his money came from, just think through how Ahbisit got wealthy without working. Caveat here; it's not a comparision but really an educated information.

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

[LannaGuy]

But, but, but......Suthep. The topic is Jatuporn, remember.

How many Thais do you know with B8.2 mill? Where did it come from Eric? Oh that's right, people just give him gifts and money, which I assume means he doesn't have to pay tax, or explain what he's doing for his income.

The Suthep comparison is necessary too educate you on the extreme of wealth. Regarding where his money came from, just think through how Ahbisit got wealthy without working. Caveat here; it's not a comparision but really an educated information.

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

give it up mate Jatuporn is a principled man who truly has the best interests of Thailand at heart and you, nor me, know if he got this money from inheritance or wherever but we do know where others you support got their HUGE wealth

8.2m, if it includes property, is a fraction of your beloved Junta's wealth (was it 600m on a land sale? and of course no one is allowed to ask)

[LannaGuy]

The junta will use any and every method to pass this crooked constitution. The last thing they need is a centre to prevent fraud.

Thailand doesn't need a center to prevent fraud formed by corrupt UDD fraudsters. No doubt funded by Taksin

Ttttttttthaksin? say it ain't so!

[Eric Loh]

But, but, but......Suthep. The topic is Jatuporn, remember.

How many Thais do you know with B8.2 mill? Where did it come from Eric? Oh that's right, people just give him gifts and money, which I assume means he doesn't have to pay tax, or explain what he's doing for his income.

The Suthep comparison is necessary too educate you on the extreme of wealth. Regarding where his money came from, just think through how Ahbisit got wealthy without working. Caveat here; it's not a comparision but really an educated information.

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

Feeling uncomfortable when confronted with rather distorted wealth comparison, mate. He is a pauper compare to some full time politicians of all parties. it's Baht not USD. A decent house is worth 3-4 M and owning a car will cost another million Baht. He got a job as a party MPs plus other sources which I don't claim to know and you don't know either. What I can say that it's not a big amount of asset and please don't try to blow this out of proportion as it is ridiculous.

[tbthailand]

Prayut Chan-ocha of backtracking on his earlier promise not to close down the anti-cheating centre.

Just a quick check shows that Prayut didn't make any such promise at least on one occassion. On June 13th Prayut said that the centres can be set up, but they must not do anything against the law. He said he will consider what to do if they do anything like that.

Coincidentally, on June 14th a group of ten people calling themselves "The Patriots" filed a police conplaint accusing the UDD's anti-fraud centre of violating the referendum Act. Led by Chatchet Songsri, The Patriots claimed that the UDD really wants to discredit the CDC, the NLA and NCPO. The group claimed there was an ulterior motive for the UDD Centre - to influence the public to vote against the draft charter in the referendum. The group also made the same complaint to the EC asking it to also take action.

It looks like Prayut did some considering.

A side note: Last year Songsri was a coordinator of the group Rao Rak Chart (We Love the Nation) to petition the Crimes Suppression Division to investigate the source of financial support for the New Democracy Movement's anti-government activities.

wow, did "the patriots" have any evidence to back up their "claims"... ?

not that it would have been necessary, but stil, ...

[chainarong]

Haven't seen that many criminals in one photo in a long time. Not that I miss the bad old days.

Well get a picture of the Junta and another shot of another high powered family and you have a lot more - Fishing, drugs and slaves all run by them and that is al;l hushed now that general In Australia is in hiding

The General you quote did ask for political asylum, silence ever since, must ask Julie bishop when I next see her, whether the General has a new name.

[halloween]

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

Feeling uncomfortable when confronted with rather distorted wealth comparison, mate. He is a pauper compare to some full time politicians of all parties. it's Baht not USD. A decent house is worth 3-4 M and owning a car will cost another million Baht. He got a job as a party MPs plus other sources which I don't claim to know and you don't know either. What I can say that it's not a big amount of asset and please don't try to blow this out of proportion as it is ridiculous.

Yep talk about anything else, right? He got a job as a party MP, and it lasted about a week until he was disqualified. Nice little casual lie there. It's not a big asset? It's a lot more than most Thais, and they work for a living.

We both know where he gets his money from, Dubai, and he dances to the piper's tune.

BTW I chased up this little treasure for you. quite expensive items mentioned, but they don't belong to him.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/581511-jatuporns-residence-a-collectors-den/

[halloween]

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

give it up mate Jatuporn is a principled man who truly has the best interests of Thailand at heart and you, nor me, know if he got this money from inheritance or wherever but we do know where others you support got their HUGE wealth

8.2m, if it includes property, is a fraction of your beloved Junta's wealth (was it 600m on a land sale? and of course no one is allowed to ask)

Jatuporn is scum who wouldn't recognise a principle if it bit his butt. No, he didn't get his wealth from inheritance, his family was quite poor. Now he alleges that valuable objects in his house were given to him, but denies ownership. So not in the B8.2 mill, I guess.

His relative wealth has nothing to do with the simple question - where did HIS come from?

[Srikcir]

Prayut Chan-ocha of backtracking on his earlier promise not to close down the anti-cheating centre.

Just a quick check shows that Prayut didn't make any such promise at least on one occassion. On June 13th Prayut said that the centres can be set up, but they must not do anything against the law. He said he will consider what to do if they do anything like that.

Coincidentally, on June 14th a group of ten people calling themselves "The Patriots" filed a police conplaint accusing the UDD's anti-fraud centre of violating the referendum Act. Led by Chatchet Songsri, The Patriots claimed that the UDD really wants to discredit the CDC, the NLA and NCPO. The group claimed there was an ulterior motive for the UDD Centre - to influence the public to vote against the draft charter in the referendum. The group also made the same complaint to the EC asking it to also take action.

It looks like Prayut did some considering.

A side note: Last year Songsri was a coordinator of the group Rao Rak Chart (We Love the Nation) to petition the Crimes Suppression Division to investigate the source of financial support for the New Democracy Movement's anti-government activities.

wow, did "the patriots" have any evidence to back up their "claims"... ?

not that it would have been necessary, but stil, ...

It was reported that as evidence, The Patriots presented UDD flyers and posters.

And of course personal opinions.

[nausea]

It's a battle between oligarchs. At the moment only a few students and academics voice a truly independent opinion.

[LannaGuy]

Give it up Eric if all you can do is point at other wealthy Thais. Jatuporn doesn't come from wealth, so the question of how he became a millionaire political activist is quite pertinent. The problem is you don't like the answer because it makes 'qualities to be admired' sound like utter tripe.

give it up mate Jatuporn is a principled man who truly has the best interests of Thailand at heart and you, nor me, know if he got this money from inheritance or wherever but we do know where others you support got their HUGE wealth

8.2m, if it includes property, is a fraction of your beloved Junta's wealth (was it 600m on a land sale? and of course no one is allowed to ask)

Jatuporn is scum who wouldn't recognise a principle if it bit his butt. No, he didn't get his wealth from inheritance, his family was quite poor. Now he alleges that valuable objects in his house were given to him, but denies ownership. So not in the B8.2 mill, I guess.

His relative wealth has nothing to do with the simple question - where did HIS come from?

interesting that you focus on 8m but ignore the 600m is there a reason you are so hypocritical? as you say where did HIS come from?

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2014/11/04/1415098178/

[halloween]

Jatuporn is scum who wouldn't recognise a principle if it bit his butt. No, he didn't get his wealth from inheritance, his family was quite poor. Now he alleges that valuable objects in his house were given to him, but denies ownership. So not in the B8.2 mill, I guess.

His relative wealth has nothing to do with the simple question - where did HIS come from?

interesting that you focus on 8m but ignore the 600m is there a reason you are so hypocritical? as you say where did HIS come from?

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2014/11/04/1415098178/

The conversation was about Jatuporn's principles, which both you and Eric have tried to divert with irrelevant distractions. Other peoples level or source of wealth is completely irrelevant. But that is the standard tactic when things get uncomfortable, isn't it?

[Wilsonandson]

Jatuporn is scum who wouldn't recognise a principle if it bit his butt. No, he didn't get his wealth from inheritance, his family was quite poor. Now he alleges that valuable objects in his house were given to him, but denies ownership. So not in the B8.2 mill, I guess.

His relative wealth has nothing to do with the simple question - where did HIS come from?

interesting that you focus on 8m but ignore the 600m is there a reason you are so hypocritical? as you say where did HIS come from?

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2014/11/04/1415098178/

The conversation was about Jatuporn's principles, which both you and Eric have tried to divert with irrelevant distractions. Other peoples level or source of wealth is completely irrelevant. But that is the standard tactic when things get uncomfortable, isn't it?

"Don't make such a big deal out of this. If you can distract from this, then distract from this. If he's distracting, say so. But if he is not distracting, you'd better prepare yourselves."

[LannaGuy]

Jatuporn is scum who wouldn't recognise a principle if it bit his butt. No, he didn't get his wealth from inheritance, his family was quite poor. Now he alleges that valuable objects in his house were given to him, but denies ownership. So not in the B8.2 mill, I guess.

His relative wealth has nothing to do with the simple question - where did HIS come from?

interesting that you focus on 8m but ignore the 600m is there a reason you are so hypocritical? as you say where did HIS come from?

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2014/11/04/1415098178/

The conversation was about Jatuporn's principles, which both you and Eric have tried to divert with irrelevant distractions. Other peoples level or source of wealth is completely irrelevant. But that is the standard tactic when things get uncomfortable, isn't it?

Making it all up again eh? YOU were the one raising the 8m and YOU are the one now embarrassed because of your obvious hypocrisy

Finding it difficult again eh? making up stories, using obfuscation and employing smokes and mirrors. Nice try but we are not that stupid.

Let's get back ON TOPIC and forget your fantasies and the topic is "Police shut down an anti-cheating centre and cancels a press conference" not about Khun Jutuporn's character nor your defamation of his character

Now stop being an utter pumpkin and get back ON TOPIC

[nausea]

As I said, it's a battle between Oligarchs. At some stage, the ordinary people will rise up. The situation reminds me, very much, of pre-revolutionary Russia.