webfact Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Major result for Thai police - arrest of the Philippines' "most wanted" fugitiveImage: tnamcotBANGKOK: Thai police have arrested a man described as the most wanted fugitive in the Philippines. The man was hiding in Thailand teaching English.Patrick Alemania, 41, was wanted for a well known kidnap case that happened in the Philippines in 2004, reported tnamcot. He was the head of a gang that kidnapped a businessman who was the owner of the country's largest supplier of pet food. The kidnapped man escaped but five other gang members were arrested and given life sentences.Alemania escaped and now has been found living and working in the Rom Klao area of Bangkok in the area of the Suvarnabhumi airport. He was working as an English teacher at a language institute and was also employed as a singer.He told police that he chose Thailand because Thais and Filipinos look similar and he would blend in. He was grassed up by a fellow countryman.The arrest was a joint operation by Thai police working with international counterparts, Rom Klao officers and tourist and immigration authorities.In a video conference call Wednesday the Filipino authorities contacted the deputy national police chief Wuthi Liptapanlop to thank the Thai poliuce for capturing their most wanted fugitive.Alemania's visa has been cancelled and the Philippine Embassy has cancelled his passport as he is prepared for deportation to his homeland.He will be the first person deported from Thailand to the Philippines since the election of new president Rodrigo Duterte who is known as "the punisher".Source: tnamcot-- 2016-07-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymonddiaz Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 the sad part of this story is Thai people are going to tar with the same brush all foreign teachers specially Filipinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. No, it means that this fellow is a criminal. He was working in a language institute which is rather different to teaching in a school. That many expats think that "farangs" teaching English are criminals is quite possibly because their view of "teaching" is somewhat influenced by the costumes worn by the girls in the bars which they frequent . Incidentally, given the level of crime and violence in The Philippines, that someone involved in a failed kidnapping is their most wanted fugitive seems to set the bar rather low! Edited July 6, 2016 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 He was working as an English teacher at a language institute and was also employed as a singer.I enjoy singing. Where can you get a job singing? Where was this guy singing? There must be an opening now he's singing the jail house rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoonToong Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Look at the way both the the Thai and Filipino policeman pat him on the shoulder, like he was a good friend.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know why it's a major result for Thai police as he was grassed up by a fellow countryman or former mate. They would never have found him after being here and settling in for 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know why it's a major result for Thai police as he was grassed up by a fellow countryman or former mate. They would never have found him after being here and settling in for 12 years. The 'grassing' is a well-played out sport here it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhooks Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. I've attempted to translate this post a few times, but have given up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. The word is Filipino as it is a man. Filipina is the feminine. Just thought I would point out the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Patrick Alemania, 41, was wanted for a well known kidnap case that happened in the Philippines in 2004 Alemania's visa has been cancelled and the Philippine Embassy has cancelled his passport as he is prepared for deportation to his homeland. Ii takes the Philippine Government 12 years to cancel the passport of their "Most Wanted" fugitive. Must have ben a looong waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. No, it means that this fellow is a criminal. He was working in a language institute which is rather different to teaching in a school.That many expats think that "farangs" teaching English are criminals is quite possibly because their view of "teaching" is somewhat influenced by the costumes worn by the girls in the bars which they frequent . Incidentally, given the level of crime and violence in The Philippines, that someone involved in a failed kidnapping is their most wanted fugitive seems to set the bar rather low! You've lost me. My first comment was a knock on people's jaded views of English teachers here. Ergo, he teaches English so he's up to no good. Call it sarcasm. He's a teacher, right? How does this dynamic change because he works in a 'language school'? I said 'criminal' not 'paedophile'. As for the costumes worn by 'girls in the bar', again, I said 'criminal'. Is the assumption that many foreign teachers here are nonces as well? Do teachers here often frequent bars that have girls dressed as schoolgirls? What about wealthier expats? What do they like? Bike rides on Sundays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. I've attempted to translate this post a few times, but have given up! it's very simple. There is a stereotype of 'foreign' teachers here being criminals, pervs, alcoholics, degenerates, etc. Every time a foreign teacher is arrested for something the stereotype is amplified. So, using this twisted logic, does it mean the same can be applied for Filipina teachers? Good for the goose kinda logic. The comment was merely a satirical comment on other's ignorant views. Said in jest, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. The word is Filipino as it is a man. Filipina is the feminine. Just thought I would point out the difference You're 100% right. i'll just stick to 'Filipinos' for male and female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. The word is Filipino as it is a man. Filipina is the feminine. Just thought I would point out the difference Right on, Gandalf, let,s have no mistakes here though I have often wondered why the term was not "philippina" and "philippino", obviously too much free time on my hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claynlr Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Dead man walking when Duerterte gets him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farang99 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 How come Thai police are able to arrest a Filipino criminal, but cannot catch their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know why it's a major result for Thai police as he was grassed up by a fellow countryman or former mate. They would never have found him after being here and settling in for 12 years. Overplayed for publicity I'll bet. He may have been one of the Philippines most wanted but highly unlikely THE most wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. I've attempted to translate this post a few times, but have given up! Good job he didn't write it in Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckysilk Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 A Filipino teaching English should be a crime in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. No, it means that this fellow is a criminal. He was working in a language institute which is rather different to teaching in a school.That many expats think that "farangs" teaching English are criminals is quite possibly because their view of "teaching" is somewhat influenced by the costumes worn by the girls in the bars which they frequent . Incidentally, given the level of crime and violence in The Philippines, that someone involved in a failed kidnapping is their most wanted fugitive seems to set the bar rather low! You've lost me. My first comment was a knock on people's jaded views of English teachers here. Ergo, he teaches English so he's up to no good. Call it sarcasm. He's a teacher, right? How does this dynamic change because he works in a 'language school'? I said 'criminal' not 'paedophile'. As for the costumes worn by 'girls in the bar', again, I said 'criminal'. Is the assumption that many foreign teachers here are nonces as well? Do teachers here often frequent bars that have girls dressed as schoolgirls? What about wealthier expats? What do they like? Bike rides on Sundays? I'm not having a pop at you. As you said in post #13, there is a stereotype applied by some to foreign teachers, and I was commenting on that, and the way that it is applied. Not I hasten to add by you. As for the " language institute ", the requirements and vetting procedures which must be passed to be employed in a school, degree, TEFL certification and police check from home country, (always assuming of course that the school apply them) do not as I understand it apply to "language institutes". Edited July 7, 2016 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. I don't think anywhere it says that all Filipinos teaching English are criminals. What it does say however, albeit to me anyway, is that once again, the vetting process for all foreign teachers currently employed in Thailand leaves a lot to be desired. You would think that by now the authorities would have a system in place, regardless if it is for a top-tier university or a side-soi language school, a procedure to weed out these type of people. Stories like this cause so much untold damage to an already suspect image for Thais internationally. For clarity, not a dig in anyway against teachers, just a dig about control........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Thai police - arrest of the Philippines' "most wanted" fugitive-----OP Wow all they have to do now is go to Dubai & arrest Thailand's most wanted fugitive......what a great week that will be for them.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) A bit odd, The Filipinos have cancelled his passport and the Thais his visa. This usually means they were both valid and active. That's OK, but a Philippines passport is valid for 5 years and he has been in Thailand 12 years which means he has sought renewal from the Philippines Embassy at the very least on two occasions. The Philippines doesn't have ID cards to my knowledge, so the passport doubles up as ID. Somebody therefore has not been doing their ' job ' if he was a ' most wanted fugitive ' to allow him to renew his passport twice. Unless, they have no cross checks regarding fugitives at the Philippines Embassy when he applied for renewal. It doesn't state he changed his name or anything in the story. Edited July 7, 2016 by Scouse123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) the sad part of this story is Thai people are going to tar with the same brush all foreign teachers specially Filipinos. That's exactly what westerners or farangs spend their time doing here about Thais, Nigerians, arabs, Chinese etc.... Better look in the mirror from time to time Edited July 7, 2016 by Petchou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Maybe president Rodrigo Duterte will welcome him personally at the airport...With the firing squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know why it's a major result for Thai police as he was grassed up by a fellow countryman or former mate. They would never have found him after being here and settling in for 12 years. Actually this shows how INCOMPETENT the Police are and the stupid immigration system too. Reporting every so often and he still is now found since what? all those years ago? this is a total disgusting effort and the Police should be hiding this story not flouting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Singing? ??? I believe it was one of his fellow countrymen who did the "singing" probably for something more substantial than his supper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnychow Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. I've attempted to translate this post a few times, but have given up! it's very simple. There is a stereotype of 'foreign' teachers here being criminals, pervs, alcoholics, degenerates, etc. Every time a foreign teacher is arrested for something the stereotype is amplified. So, using this twisted logic, does it mean the same can be applied for Filipina teachers? Good for the goose kinda logic. The comment was merely a satirical comment on other's ignorant views. Said in jest, if you will. But then again sterotypes normally have their foundation in certain "truths" are all teachers paedofiles ? Of course not...but large numbers of paedofiles happen to be teachers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Does this mean all Filipinas teaching English are criminals? I know many expats think 'farangs' teaching English are. Just goes to show how easy it is to teach English here if you're a certain kind of person. If you're white or Filipina, it's just assumed you can teach English. Perhaps he can teach English. Perhaps he is fully qualified to do so, and only did a bit of violent kidnapping on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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