AIS Fiber - anyone have recent experience?

[muratremix]

I think 3BB implementation is not a transparent proxy, but man-in-middle system for blocking illegal activities imposed by Thai Computer / IT law. It only works for port 80. And it is not caching anything (True online uses caching transparent proxy, which causes problems with some websites)

[zib]

Here's an example from 3BB DSL, Site in Sweden.

# tcptraceroute 130.244.0.1 80

Selected device eth0, address 172.17.11.1, port 34877 for outgoing packets

Tracing the path to 130.244.0.1 on TCP port 80 (http), 30 hops max

1 172.17.11.2 0.420 ms 0.273 ms 0.262 ms

2 192.168.1.1 1.151 ms 1.016 ms 0.998 ms

3 10.121.83.101 19.568 ms

10.121.83.177 19.702 ms

10.121.83.101 23.091 ms

4 10.121.83.178 19.114 ms 19.113 ms 20.093 ms

5 mx-ll-110.164.14-141.static.3bb.co.th (110.164.14.141) 31.062 ms 35.201 ms 29.412 ms

6 mx-ll-110.164.14-140.static.3bb.co.th (110.164.14.140) 29.930 ms 30.469 ms 29.907 ms

7 mx-ll-110.164.1-167.static.3bb.co.th (110.164.1.167) 29.560 ms 29.975 ms 29.004 ms

8 mx-ll-110.164.1-177.static.3bb.co.th (110.164.1.177) 30.625 ms 29.542 ms 29.280 ms

9 130.244.0.1 [open] 29.997 ms 29.906 ms 30.294 ms

Interesting.

My 50/10 vdsl 3bb has no transparent proxy (or probably have??)

RT-AC56R (0.0.0.0) Mon Jul 11 13:13:45 2016

Packets Pings

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev

1. mx-ll-110.164.14-215.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 58 21.62.82.9 19.23.24.5 0.0

2. mx-ll-110.164.14-214.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 5 19.1 29.75.68.80.53.9 16.7

3. mx-ll-110.164.1-167.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 53 19.4 19.14 18.8 19.3 0.0

4. mx-ll-110.164.1-177.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 41 22.26 25.3 19.18.81.5 0.0

5. 130.244.0.1 0.0% 4 228.4 209.07.30.72628.9 29.5

I used mtr --tcp -P 80 (HOSTNAME) command because I couldn't find tcptraceroute for mac or ipkg/opkg on NAS/Router.

without --tcp parameter, it is like normal traceroute;

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev

1. mx-ll-110.164.14-215.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 43 19.6 19.3 19.7 19.7 0.0

2. mx-ll-110.164.14-214.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 4 19.6 19.0 18.6 19.6 0.0

3. mx-ll-110.164.1-167.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 4 19.3 23.7 9.7.41438.2 0.0

4. mx-ll-110.164.1-123.static.3bb.co.th 0.0% 4 19.1 19.1 18.7 19.4 0.0

5. 192.168.255.250 0.0% 4 221.1 255.159.2.186.4.3 0.0

0.0% 4 221.8 223.73.81.74229.6 5.5

7. 217.239.42.81 0.0% 4 219.55219.4 219.3 219.4 0.0

8. 80.150.168.106 0.0% 4 225.8 229.4 225.81.98.5 0.0

9. ams-core-2.bundle-ether8.tele2.net 0.0% 4 230.4 230.5 230.4 230.8 0.0

10. gbg-core-1.bundle-ether1.tele2.net 0.0% 4 257.0 257.0 257.0 257.1 0.0

11. hgd-core-1.hundredgige0-7-0-1.tele2.net 0.0% 4 241.0 240.76240.4 241.0 0.0

12. 130.244.0.1 0.0% 3 243.3 243.4 243.3 243.4 0.0

No matter which destination I test, I get 220 ms on last hop. Even for singapore.

What kind of transparent proxy is this? True's transparent proxy was obvious. This one is insidious!

heh. It's only mtr. mtr actually tries to open the tcp connection to the destination. This will generate a response from the actual real destination. Since the proxy is completely transparent the response packet goes directly back to you bypassing the proxy. This results in mtr being able to calculate the real latency. However just half way of the real latency.

(ms to ais proxy from you) + (ms from real destination to you) where as normal ping would be (ms to real destination from you) + (ms from real destination to you)

Why you get the same even to singapore beats me. I get varied latency.

[zib]

I think 3BB implementation is not a transparent proxy, but man-in-middle system for blocking illegal activities imposed by Thai Computer / IT law. It only works for port 80. And it is not caching anything (True online uses caching transparent proxy, which causes problems with some websites)

There's an "easy" but not fullproof way of testing it. Here is an example showing AIS also caching,

root@slim-ng:~# curl http://7art-screensavers.com/wallpapers/raindrops-0/xls/big-leaf-rain-drop.jpg > /dev/null

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current

Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

100 445k 100 445k 0 0 130k 0 0:00:03 0:00:03 --:--:-- 130k

root@slim-ng:~# curl http://7art-screensavers.com/wallpapers/raindrops-0/xls/big-leaf-rain-drop.jpg > /dev/null

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current

Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

100 445k 100 445k 0 0 1953k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1952k

root@slim-ng:~# curl http://7art-screensavers.com/wallpapers/raindrops-0/xls/big-leaf-rain-drop.jpg > /dev/null

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current

Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

100 445k 100 445k 0 0 1419k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1426k

1st transfer = 130KB/s avg taking 3 seconds.

2nd transfer = 1.9MB/s finishing under 1s

3nd transfer = 1.4MB/s finishing under 1s

So either caching or a magic webserver on the other end that became faster. Not fullproof but an indication.

[zib]

I think 3BB implementation is not a transparent proxy, but man-in-middle system for blocking illegal activities imposed by Thai Computer / IT law. It only works for port 80. And it is not caching anything (True online uses caching transparent proxy, which causes problems with some websites)

With 3bb,

root@slim-ng:~# curl http://7art-screensavers.com/wallpapers/raindrops-0/xls/big-leaf-rain-drop.jpg > /dev/null

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current

Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

100 445k 100 445k 0 0 65617 0 0:00:06 0:00:06 --:--:-- 50687

1st = 50KB/s taking 6 seconds

No improvement in transfer 2-3 so that would indicate they are not caching like you said.

I could however mean that they require a bigger unique hit rate. For example they require more than 1 customer (src ip) to start caching it. Which would be normal behaviour.

So for AIS we could determine that they did cache immedietly. For 3BB they either don't cache or they do it after a high unique hit rate.

[Pib]

After filling my stomach with breakfast this morning I did some speed tests from 8:42am to 8:56am Bangkok time using my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan. Tested to the 12 Testmy.net speed test locations. But first I did a Speedtest.net Bangkok to Bangkok speed test just to check my local connection...I got 50.72Mb down / 12.17Mb up...local connection good-to-go.

OK, now those Testmy.net results:

Location Down Mbps Up Mbps

Central US Dallas: 14.2 3.8

Central US Colorado Springs: 18.6 3.0

East Coast US Miami: 10.9 6.7

East Coast US NYC: 16.2 6.7

West Coast US LA: 21.5 7.5

West Coast US SF: 17.7 7.0

Europe UK London: 2.4 2.3 (slow...seen that before to the UK...I try a couple of VPN connections later)

Europe GE Frankfurt: 13.4 7.7

Asia JP Tokyo: 24.7 9.1

Asia SG Singapore: 46.3 10.9

Asia IN Bangalore: 41.3 10.8

Australia AU Sydney: 20.9 8.2

Now, lets test that London connection but this time using a VPN connection. One with VPN server "in London" and one with a "Virtual VPN server in Singapore but gives a UK/London IP address."

VPN Server Location Down Mbps Up Mbps

London VPN Server in London: 27.7 4.4

London Virtual VPN Server in Singapore: 14.7 2.3 (Note)

Note: Little surprised the closer virtual VPN connection was not faster than the actual London VPN connection as the other day the London Virtual VPN via Singapore connection was much faster than the London VPN connection.

Summary: Just some crossfeed on my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan. Your results may (will) vary. And I'm sure using Speedtest.net to above locations would have given me more glorious results since it uses multi-thread/streams (2 to 4) to it's test sites where Testmy.net uses single-thread/stream testing.

[Pib]

I got AIS Fibre 50/10 last Friday....it's great. Big, big improvement over my True DOCSIS/cable 15Mb/1.5Mb plan which I will be cancelling fairly soon.

AIS ran an approx 230 meter fiber run from the fiber optics trunk line in my western Bangkok moobaan....fiber all the way to the AIS-provided router which was an Hauwei HG8245H 2.4Ghz router...No install or deposit fees. Since I'm not an AIS customer the monthly cost is Bt888 (plus 7% VAT)...if I had been an AIS customer I would have got a 10% discount for a monthly charge of Bt799. And for the first three months I'm getting a 50% reduction on the Bt888/mo normal price which means Bt444/mo....starting month 4 it goes to Bt888.

And I got my first bill today in the mail and paid it via my Bangkok Bank ibanking no problem. The bill does says Bt888/mo for a 12 month period with the first three months receiving a 50% discount. The bill was in Thai....I called the AIS Fibre Call Center, pressed 2 for English, took about 3 minutes before a rep came online (rep spoke great English...thought I was talking to a farang almost), asked him if I could change the bill from Thai to English, he said sure & changed it to English, and said the next bill will be in English.

[Hornyskunk]

I've been using AIS Fibre 50/20 for one year. My plan expires in two weeks and I've already ordered a new 50/10 package for another year.

My only complaint is that it feels like I was being ripped off. I paid around 2k/month for the 50/20 package and will soon be paying 800/month for the 50/10 package. Why such a difference in price?

Other than that, I have not had a single problem with AIS Fibre. It's as good as or perhaps better (cheaper) than Verizon Fios back in the US.

[Pib]

I've been using AIS Fibre 50/20 for one year. My plan expires in two weeks and I've already ordered a new 50/10 package for another year.

My only complaint is that it feels like I was being ripped off. I paid around 2k/month for the 50/20 package and will soon be paying 800/month for the 50/10 package. Why such a difference in price?

Other than that, I have not had a single problem with AIS Fibre. It's as good as or perhaps better (cheaper) than Verizon Fios back in the US.

I expect most of the additional cost is for the Public IPV4 address and supposedly better speed to international sites.

Would be great if you could post some Testmy.net speedtest results. Would help to give folks a comparison between the 50/10 and 50/20 plans. If you can, be sure to mention what day/time your ran the tests. Thanks.

[jonw8uk]

Did the OP get this installed in his condo?

positive results?

Im moving condo this week, and AIS have a fibre connection to the building.

Can someone confirm that if I subscribe they will install an actual fibre optic cable to my room, and not just fibre to the building then use the copper phone cables.

The missus called them and the girl was talking about copper cable.....

[Pib]

Keep in mind that in many condo-type buildings they may only run fibre to the building's central phone/ethernet distribution box. From that point on it's copper. If that is the case for you, the run from the central condo box to your condo would be copper....a DSL/XDSL run....basically a run over the current copper building wiring. As long as that wiring is in good shape that short copper run will not impact your AIS fibre speed.

[jonw8uk]

Keep in mind that in many condo-type buildings they may only run fibre to the building's central phone/ethernet distribution box. From that point on it's copper. If that is the case for you, the run from the central condo box to your condo would be copper....a DSL/XDSL run....basically a run over the current copper building wiring. As long as that wiring is in good shape that short copper run will not impact your AIS fibre speed.

Yes, thanks for info

I called and spoke with the fibre guys at AIS

they confirmed its fibre to the DSLAM, then existing phone lines to the room.

I assume that for a 50/10 package, as a single user I won't notice any difference by not having fibre to the room??

[Pib]

Don't worry about that final few meters being copper via ADSL2+ or VDSL.

ADSL2+ can achieve up to around 24Mb for a short run....and VDSL up to 80Mb for a short run. That 80Mb far exceeds the 50Mb plan you are thinking about getting.

Heck, within my two story home my AIS Fibre 50/10 fibre connection comes through the wall upstairs in the master bedroom to the AIS-provided fibre router. But since 2 story concrete houses in Thailand make it hard to get strong and full speed coverage throughout the house I use that router signal for upstairs coverage and then I have a 20 meter or so ethernet run/connection from that fibre router running downstairs to another router/access point that I use for Wifi coverage downstairs. That 20 meter copper ethernet run has zero impact on the speed between the fibre router upstairs feeding the access point downstairs.

And you never know, you really may be getting AIS Fibre VDSL 50/10. See this AIS webpage where they talk AIS Fibre (VDSL). Google Translate is your friend at this webpage. It's a VDSL plan except it is fed by a fibre optics trunk line at the DSLAM...so they call it a AIS Fibre (VDSL) plan. See how they like to put the VDSL in parenthesis to emphasize it.

3BB and True play the same "name game" with their different technologies. Like for me, up until today I still had the True Cable/DOCSIS internet plan (I cancelled today since the AIS Fibre has been rock solid for the 12 days I've had it). 5 years ago when I got True DOCSIS/Cable plan that's what they called it then - DOCSIS/Cable as at that time that was the buzz phase for a "speedy internet plan." But a couple of years ago they change that name to Fiber Cable Internet (FCI) as Fiber was now the buzz word for a speedy internet plan. I still had the same DOCSIS/Plan but it had been renamed to FCI. Calling my DOCSIS/Cable plan a Fiber Cable Internet plan was technically not a lie as that DOCSIS cable/copper trunk line running around the moobaan at some point outside the moobaan surely connected to True's backbone which is Fiber Optics. Plus DOCSIS/Cable can handle speeds up to about 200Mb. However, FCI has been renamed to True Super Speed Fiber. And I'm sure next year they will rename it again to whatever they think is the most enticing name and implies a technology change in order to make you want one of their internet plans.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Pib

[Pib]

Time for me to go night-night. But I just did some Speedtest.net and Testmy.net tests with my AIS Fibre 50/10 Home plan. All tests non-VPN with the exception of testing to the UK/London where I did non-VPN and VPN connections since the non-VPN connection to London was slow with Testmy.net. The VPN connection sped things up to London.

Keep in mind Speedtest.net is a multi-thread tester....it uses 1, 2, 4, 6, or 8 threads. In earlier posts I said up to 4 threads but additional reading on how Speedtest.net runs it tests shows the test servers can setup their sites to use as many as 8 threads if necessary. More threads used can greatly increase the speed....kinda like how download managers work to speedup downloads. However, Testmy.net is a single-thread tester which is why you can see much lower speeds. Both multi and single thread testing has its pros and cons. Anyway, below are the test results run from 10:33pm to 10:50pm Bangkok time which is pretty much prime/heavy usage internet time in Thailand. Just FYI...your results may (will) vary.

Speedtest.net (multi-thread tester)

BKK to BKK Just to Test Local Connection


BKK to Los Angeles


BKK for Frankfurt

BKK to London

Testmy.net (single thread tester)

BKK to Los Angeles


BKK to Frankfurt


BKK to London (non-VPN conneciton....slow...seen this below....I then try a VPN connection to London)


BKK to London with London VPN connection (speeded things up greatly)

[shariq607]

This is using cat's business fiber line ( Download test -testmy.net )

BKK to Los angeles

BKK to Germany

BKK to London

speedtest.net Bkk to Los Angeles

Edited July 13, 2016 by shariq607

[nickbkk]

I have to say that dealing with AIS was a breeze.

On Saturday:

1. Use online form to apply for service.

2. A few hours later, get email confirming the application.

3. A few hours later, get SMS confirming the application.

4. Monday, get phone call to confirm the key details.

Scheduled the installation for Thursday afternoon. Engineer called on Wednesday to confirm.

By 5pm on Thursday, everything was up and running using a second line. Fibre is to the building, VDSL to me. Fiberhome HG180 gateway.

Just ran some speed tests.

These are at 8:30am on Saturday 16 July (amidst all the excitement of the Turkey coup attempt)

Using testmy.net

DOWNLOAD

Standard test:

TH 30Mbps

US E Coast 20 Mbps

Manual test - 100MB download - US W Coast

29.2Mbps

UPLOAD

9.2 Mbps - US W Coast

Using SPEEDTEST.net

Similar results to US W Coast

Not had time to really tune anything.

For some reason, I cannot access the WAN Setup page of the router's web interface. Enabling SSH and connecting to CLI, I find there is an "awnfibre" user in the password file.

If anyone knows the use of the awnfibre user or how to access WAN Setup on the HG180, I'm all-ears.

Will probably call AIS to inquire about this as I want to use the HG180 as modem only and handle all routing with Tomato firmware on another router.

Also, now to cancel the True service.

[nickbkk]

Forgot to say I got the PowerHome 50/10 package for 888 baht/month.

[Pib]

What do you mean bt TH 30Mb for the testmy test you ran. If TH means Thailand, Testmy don't have a Thailand speedtest server.

[nickbkk]

My bad. I misread the results. Shame I didn't keep the results, I don't know if that was to the US or JP. In any case, it's much better than my True DSL.

What do you mean bt TH 30Mb for the testmy test you ran. If TH means Thailand, Testmy don't have a Thailand speedtest server.

[zib]

I have to say that dealing with AIS was a breeze.

On Saturday:

1. Use online form to apply for service.

2. A few hours later, get email confirming the application.

3. A few hours later, get SMS confirming the application.

4. Monday, get phone call to confirm the key details.

Scheduled the installation for Thursday afternoon. Engineer called on Wednesday to confirm.

By 5pm on Thursday, everything was up and running using a second line. Fibre is to the building, VDSL to me. Fiberhome HG180 gateway.

Just ran some speed tests.

These are at 8:30am on Saturday 16 July (amidst all the excitement of the Turkey coup attempt)

Using testmy.net

DOWNLOAD

Standard test:

TH 30Mbps

US E Coast 20 Mbps

Manual test - 100MB download - US W Coast

29.2Mbps

UPLOAD

9.2 Mbps - US W Coast

Using SPEEDTEST.net

Similar results to US W Coast

Not had time to really tune anything.

For some reason, I cannot access the WAN Setup page of the router's web interface. Enabling SSH and connecting to CLI, I find there is an "awnfibre" user in the password file.

If anyone knows the use of the awnfibre user or how to access WAN Setup on the HG180, I'm all-ears.

Will probably call AIS to inquire about this as I want to use the HG180 as modem only and handle all routing with Tomato firmware on another router.

Also, now to cancel the True service.

Password is fibre@dm!n

[nickbkk]

Thanks!

Password is fibre@dm!n

[Pib]

Some Speedtest.net tests Sunday night between 8:38pm to 8:44pm...middle of prime time internet usage...a Sunday night...using my now 2 weeks, 2 days old AIS Fibre 50/10. Up time since installing the AIS Fibre has been 100%. Zero problems.

All ping times good...no faster than light ping times. Remember, Speedtest.net is a multi-thread tester, 1, 2, 4, 6, or 8 threads can be used to the site you are testing to...that's controlled by Speedtest.net...you can not change. This multi-thread testing means usually higher results than with other speedtesters such as Testmy.net which is a single thread tester.

From Bangkok

To Down / Up

Bangkok: 50.7 / 12.1 (to check local/domestic connection)

Singapore: 50.9 / 12.0

Los Angeles: 47.4 / 11.9

Atlanta: 17.2 / 11.7

Frankfurt: 40.4 / 11.5

London: 40.8 / 10.3

Your Results May (Will) Vary.

[Pib]

And here are some Monday morning 11:14am to 11:22am results to the same locations as above...but this time I also included ping time (same as last night give or take a few milliseconds). Download and upload speeds also very similar to last night. With AIS I have noticed much more consistent (and much higher) international speeds than I had with True regardless of the speed tester I used (i.e., Speedtest.net, Testmy.net, DSLReports, etc).

From Bangkok

To Down / Up / Ping

Bangkok: 50.8 / 12.5 / 3ms (to check local/domestic connection)

Singapore: 50.8 / 12.2 / 34ms

Los Angeles: 44.0 / 12.0 / 210ms

Atlanta: 17.3 / 11.7 / 286ms

Frankfurt: 42.4 / 11.7 / 213ms

London: 41.8 / 11.5 / 201ms

As always, Your Results May (Will) Vary.

[jonw8uk]

Just had AIS fibre installed

OK so far, though I'd like to put it in bridge mode and use my ASUS.

Has anyone managed this on the HG-180 router supplied by AIS?

I can access the router, but maybe Im missing something, as I can't see an option to change the setting....

[zib]

Can someone pm me or post some ip that's on AIS PowerHome (Not PowerPro). I want to compare the routing. You don't have to post the full ip. Just like 1.3.3.X

I of course mean the public ip and not the one behind NAT.

[Pib]

Time to go night-night, but before I do here are some international Testmy.net and Speedtest.net tests to London using my AIS Fibre 50/10 plan...plan now 2.5 weeks old...still 100% up time. Tests run on this fine Tuesday night approx 9:50pm Bangkok time. Tests might be informative to UK folks.

Keep in mind Testmy.net is single-thread tester while Speedtest.net (and OOKLA based tester) is a multi-thread tester (1 to 8 threads as configured by the test set) which usually means Speedtest.net will give higher results since it's probably using more than one thread to the test site. Your Results May (Will) Vary. Good night.

Testmy.net to London

Speedtest.net to London

[jonw8uk]

Ok, another installation of AIS fibre in a condo (VDSL2 to room) over wifi at 11pm

Singapore:

LA:

London:

[Pib]

jonw8uk,

Which package do you have....the Power Home 50/10 package or the PowerPro 30/10 package? I'm just wondering based on none of the speedtests being higher than 30Mb even to Signapore. I'm assuming you have the 50/10 package since in an earlier post you "assumed" that is what they were installing.

To confirm if and how much your Wifi signal from router to computer is possibly degrading your speed you might want to do a hardwire/ethernet connection and do a Speedtest.net test to Bangkok. Then remove the hardwire conneciton and do some more speedtests via Wifi to see what the speed difference is between a hardware and Wifi connection in your condo.

With Wifi depending on your device's distance from the Wifi router, interference from neighbors' router signals, a variety of other possible signals, obstructions such as a walls/floors between your device and the router, etc., it can have a big impact on speed via Wifi. And throughout the day/night your Wifi speed can vary greatly depending on neighbor's competing Wifi signals interfering with yours. Like routers being set in "Auto" to change Wifi channels to help reduce interference.

Say you have been getting great Wifi speed for the last X-hours as you been checking it frequently....then during speed checks you notice the speed has dropped off significantly and probably somewhat erratic. Well, that may be due to a neighbors' router shifting to another Wifi channel which degrades/interferes with your signal and varying strength from that neighbor's signal. I have that very problem with one of my neighbors (my second closest neighbor as the crows flies from my home) ...whenever his router channel Auto switches to another channel (or channels for 40Mhz bandwidth) that matches my channel(s) it degrades my Wifi signal/speed. I may have improved his Wifi signal/speed, but it degrades mine....and I'm sure that happen vice-versa although I don't have my routers set to Auto switch channels as I have it set to a specific channel(s) I have determined from testing provides me the fastest signal throughout the 24 hours period.

I spot that inference by using the free iiSSIDer Home software that will visually display Wifi signals in your area, how they are or are not overlapping each other, a Link Speed score....more inference the lower the score. It's a neat (and free) program. With you living in a condo and assuming you have plenty of nearby neighbors I expect you'll have a lot of competing Wifi signals possibly interfering with yours. There are also other apps like for Android that do the same thing but iiSSIDer use on a computer is really good...very informative.

Heck, I live in a single family/detach home but iiSSIDer will show I have anywhere from 4 to around a dozen competing signals depending on the time of day/night. It gets worst from evening to late at night when people are home from work and school using their computers which means they have turned on their Wifi routers or the routers have switched from standby lower power output to save energy if setup that way to full power. Fortunately the the ASUS Access Point I use downstairs in my home which is hardwired to my AIS provided router upstairs has an Enhance Interference Management setting that works really well to prevent the interference is some magic way the great majority of the time---but not all the time. The AIS provider router has not such setting.

Sometimes the interference is so great the ASUS access point just can't handle it all and I see a degrade in Wifi speed from 50Mb to around 45Mb. Right now, it's around 9:30am in the morning and iiSSIDer shows competing signals from 5 neighbors (about 20 to 30db weaker signal ), but no sign of the signal from my second closest neighbor as he's at work and apparently turns off his router when he not using it. Or if not turned off, it shifts to a lower transmitting level until he comes home, makes a Wifi connection, and then his router ramps up its transmitting power. Plus he uses the 40Mhz bandwidth setting in his router like I do and therefore it interferes more than a 20Mhz bandwidth setting. But if I'm seeing that significant Wifi speed drop off and then instead make a hardwire connection from the Asus access point to my computer, the speed is the full 50Mb.

Yeap, competing Wifi signals from other routers can cause havoc...even makes some folks think they have a problem with their computer, internet plan, etc., when it fact it's simply a funky Wifi signal from their router...and that router could be only a meter or so just away...having the Wifi router really close to your computer just can't overcome some interference (or at least my tests have shown that).

Preaching to the choir probably but maybe others will fine my sermon helpful.

[Pib]

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Edited July 20, 2016 by Pib

[Pib]

Tests using my AIS 50/10 plan at around 11am on this Wednesday morning. Tests to various parts of the world. Your results may (will) vary.

[jonw8uk]

yes, its the 50/10 powerhome

1pm results over ethernet to remove any wifi uncertainty.

Tested with the HG180 in bridge mode hooked up to an Asus AC87U

as you can see the results are still significantly lower than yours

First off a speedtest to Bangkok:

Singapore

US: This after multiple re-tests and a change to the san fran server, as the LA upload was poor - 1.3mbps

London: