FolkGuitar Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Chiang Mai has been chosen as the second best place in the world, out of a list of 15 cities, by Travel & Leisure Magazine. It's certainly my choice as the best place for me to live! http://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds-best/cities Edited July 9, 2016 by FolkGuitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceChee Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 have its perk...nice city for sure ! Love it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Did they mention to carry one's own gas mask when walking the Moat Road? Maybe YOU don't live in town, but those who do live in the city choke, gasp and cry for relief from the noxious and unnecessary air pollutants pumped out by the motor vehicles crawling along both sides of the moat. True that a casual visitor who confines himself to the inner city or wanders only to Loi Kroh Rd may not get the full dose of daily pollution and thus accept the idea that CM is a swell holiday. The first step surely must be to eliminate the Red Cars, or at least retro-fit every one to propane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceChee Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Nope actually I really don't live in the city...in CM you have 2 crowds...those who enjoy living inside the old city and its areas for the ease of transport / facilities and those who swear off the city and goes in when we have friends visiting. I visit the old city once a month probably if I don't have any hospital visits etc or children clinics....more if my friends are in town for a day or two. Edited July 9, 2016 by LawrenceChee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagra Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Yup. A DREAM city in my book...E X C E P T for the terrible vehicle exhaust pollution. It's astounding and bewildering that the government does control this, in such a really wonderful, thrilling city!!! So regretful! Edited July 9, 2016 by sagra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiengmaijoe Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Did they mention to carry one's own gas mask when walking the Moat Road? Maybe YOU don't live in town, but those who do live in the city choke, gasp and cry for relief from the noxious and unnecessary air pollutants pumped out by the motor vehicles crawling along both sides of the moat. True that a casual visitor who confines himself to the inner city or wanders only to Loi Kroh Rd may not get the full dose of daily pollution and thus accept the idea that CM is a swell holiday. The first step surely must be to eliminate the Red Cars, or at least retro-fit every one to propane. As someone who lives in the city all I can say is ...... Miseryguts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Thailand is great to live in, for various reasons, but the cities are not one of them. Chiang Mai is gridlocked and for 3 months of the year it feels like the apocalypse has occurred, due to the heavy air pollution. I can't think of anything I would show people inside the city but it is a nice area once you get out of town. I choose my little village over Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunHehe Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 #2 about sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Did they mention to carry one's own gas mask when walking the Moat Road? Maybe YOU don't live in town, but those who do live in the city choke, gasp and cry for relief from the noxious and unnecessary air pollutants pumped out by the motor vehicles crawling along both sides of the moat. True that a casual visitor who confines himself to the inner city or wanders only to Loi Kroh Rd may not get the full dose of daily pollution and thus accept the idea that CM is a swell holiday. The first step surely must be to eliminate the Red Cars, or at least retro-fit every one to propane. And the never ending lines of traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 From June until January I'd agree with them. Obviously their reviewers weren't present during the 'burn' season. I'm not sure how you make #2 when 3 months out of the year you can hardly breath the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Thailand is great to live in, for various reasons, but the cities are not one of them. Chiang Mai is gridlocked and for 3 months of the year it feels like the apocalypse has occurred, due to the heavy air pollution. I can't think of anything I would show people inside the city but it is a nice area once you get out of town. I choose my little village over Chiang Mai. Shhhh. Don't give the rest of the world any ideas. I'm one of two farangs living in the 50 km stretch of our mountain valley. I like it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 My one visit to Chiang Mai made me realise how good Pattaya is. Some nice old temples but won't bother going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalchaos Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 How on earth Chiang Mai made it onto the list amazes me, it is a run down hotch potch of a dump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 My one visit to Chiang Mai made me realise how good Pattaya is. Some nice old temples but won't bother going again. Well, for someone who has reached a conclusion like this, we can only say, without malice, that we are not unhappy to see you go back to the place you like better, and, please, don't feel like you need to visit again. cheers, ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMac Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Thailand is cheap, not clean or nice. Chiang Mai in Thailand is one of the cheaper, not cleaner places. So that all makes sense. I like it here. Because it is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Bad News !!!...as this will sure bring in more people looking for places to stay, witch in it's turn will drive up the prices !!! more cars and motorbikes, It's not like Chiang Mai is in shortage of a population !!! Pfffft,...regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 My one visit to Chiang Mai made me realise how good Pattaya is. Some nice old temples but won't bother going again. Please tell you're friends not to come too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 have its perk...nice city for sure ! Love it.... Second in the world ? Crap ! Travel and Leisure's list of airports,cities,beaches,and resorts,are just that CRAP with very little research done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Don't worry the Thai haters will be on soon to tell you its all a conspiracy from TAT...........no one really likes Thailand.....etc etc.......... . Oh Sanukjim already beat me to it...........another plot a Jim........didn't fool you though...(you had the tin foil in already) Edited July 9, 2016 by oxo1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceChee Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I like the quirky cafes I can still find ...I like the hipster feel at the art galleries and I like the old trees found in some old sois Has its drawbacks - the streets are still not pedestrian friendly , the buses none existent, some places defy hygiene and no I am not eating those raw sausages Since it's not a perfect city listing ...I can live with its quirks and I like it here Been to many liveable cities like Vancouver Melbourne and Auckland ...without the soft spot for NZ the rest didn't really impress me and I have found my own paradise in Chiangmai and I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbo123 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Chiang Mai is nice and affordable but to be in the top of best places in the world is insane. Based on what>? Museums? Public transport? Night life? Air quality? Road safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Freckle Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) It's good that different people have different choices..., and employ different criteria to make those favourite place choices. Chiang Mai as a city has has a definite charm about it...., regardless of it's less that optimum environment. I quite enjoy visiting for a month or 3..., during our southern hemisphere winter..., I don't think I'll be moving there though. CM's about as close as I want to be to a city...., for me a place has more cache if it has more of the unbuilt environment and less people living in that unbuilt environment. Edited July 9, 2016 by Sandy Freckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 It's a travel magazine so I believe the rating represents a city to visit. I don't believe Charleston #1 would be the top livable city in the world... My guess is it is not based on criteria but people responding to some simple survey or questionnaire and they counted noses to determine count.... I hope this ranking will help with my international home exchange next year! we'll see.... You can add libraries, performance of the Arts facilities, municipal parks, children friendly activities/venues, green space, bike lanes/friendly, trash/litter management etc to your list, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I love living here, sure it's not perfect, immigration is a pain, but high season....well the weather is absolutely perfect for 3 or 4 months, it's like the England you get for 2 or 3 weekends a year every day. 12 years here for me now, I have never lived anywhere for longer than 6, and I have lived in 12 different houses in 40 years...HATE burning season, but who does'nt? Think I will die happy here..where else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMac Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I fly to Jakarta tomorrow, it's nowhere on that (15 places) list, but hey, they had a 20h jam last Tuesday with 18 dead. It's just like Songkran but without the alcohol (and the dead). Anyway, too much rain here now. See you soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenside Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 These Best Places lists are as meaningful as the ClickBait you'll find at the bottom of this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 Chiang Mai is nice and affordable but to be in the top of best places in the world is insane. Based on what>? On the numbers of chronic complainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 The magazine is called Travel+Leisure. It's not called "Places to Live". It's all about nice places for a short holiday for Americans. If you've never been to Chiang Mai, it is a pleasant place for a holiday -- during the right time of year. Surely most of us would agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptainrob Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 The magazine is called Travel+Leisure. It's not called "Places to Live". It's all about nice places for a short holiday for Americans. If you've never been to Chiang Mai, it is a pleasant place for a holiday -- during the right time of year. Surely most of us would agree on that. Seems a few may have outstayed their welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiengmaijoe Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Thailand is cheap, not clean or nice. Chiang Mai in Thailand is one of the cheaper, not cleaner places. So that all makes sense. I like it here. Because it is cheap And Thaivisa is just the place for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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