webfact Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Government snubs at UN rapporteur's statementBANGKOK: -- The government has hit back at the UN rapporteur for the recent statement condemning the arrests and charges lodged against people under the orders of the NCPO and the referendum law.In response to the UN rapporteur’s statement, government deputy spokesman Maj-Gen Veerachon Sukhonthapatipark said the Thai government understood the good intention of the rapporteur in trying to do his job so that it would be recognized.Nevertheless, he said the government had insisted all along of the needs and reasons for the arrests and legal actions because Thailand is in the middle of transition which requires the enforcement of some rules which are not normally enforced in order to maintain peace and order.“If you are worried as mentioned in your statement, the government also feels worried too with the suitability of the expression of your personal views which may transgress on the Thai law. Nevertheless, the government is open to recommendations which are useful,” said Veerachon.He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/government-snubs-un-rapporteurs-statement/ -- Thai PBS 2016-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Another brainwashed junta baboon following the PM's propaganda policy. If only these clowns realised the rest of the world can see right through their bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 "He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom." Is that so? Well then, that's good to know. Has he read the convention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) So the govt rejects the UN representative's statement, what happened to the propaganda that everyone understands and supports etc. ? Edited July 26, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 No problem here, the rights were removed for the benefit of the people. They are much happier without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 "He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom," bur in the previous paragraph threatens anyone whose personal opinions may transgress Thai law, you know, those laws the prohibit free speech, that does not support the junta's view. Someone, in the UN needs to drop the politically correctness and inform Thai that the world does NOT believe it and laughs at its government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 "the good intention of the rapporteur in trying to do his job so that it would be recognized" I don't think the UN works on the face principal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 How do you justify arrests ,legal proceedings etc to enforce law and order in the case of a couple of 8 year kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 "the good intention of the rapporteur in trying to do his job so that it would be recognized" I don't think the UN works on the face principal. Are you sure about that, not convinced myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 "Nevertheless, the government is open to recommendations which are useful,”. Super...please define USEFUL under your own governmental rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Politics are relevant to this topic on all sides. Naturally a military politic isn't going to obey directives that diminish its authority . And administration's change in who tolerates their transgressions. We are living through changes. Thailand included. The usual "" misunderstandings" line or need to "" correctly explain "" Thailand' s special position is wearing thin. Just like the Chinese South China Sea position. Both use similar language. However , it's hard to disguise naked intent. Human rights abuses don't suffice under "" military will"" ....just ask ( if we could ) fallen dictators . Time is ticking. The day of reckoning will come sooner or later. And judgements in future of the Thai position might not be so velveted and meek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 How do you justify arrests ,legal proceedings etc to enforce law and order in the case of a couple of 8 year kids? Well, the answer is obvious from the OP report, isn't it? because Thailand is in the middle of transition which requires the enforcement of some rules which are not normally enforced in order to maintain peace and order. And if you don't like it, then.... the government also feels worried too with the suitability of the expression of your personal views which may transgress on the Thai law. All clear now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think we are over the hill and now people who were apathetic or afraid are starting to speak up more and more.Those who put this government into power always were pro-fascism. They don't believe in rights for anyone else. If you know the guy in the picture, you can see that he's aged quickly in the past two years. The believers in the junta and oppression know where they are going now. It seems that finally people have changed and awakened to this lie, including most expats. Before and at the time of the coup, voices on Thai forums were crushed by those who control them. Posts were deleted excessively and accounts closed quickly. Things are changing more quickly now and even the expat forums are less afraid to let those who oppose the taking away of rights of Thais speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 “If you are worried as mentioned in your statement, the government also feels worried too with the suitability of the expression of your personal views which may transgress on the Thai law. Nevertheless, the government is open to recommendations which are useful,” said Veerachon. Am I reading this right? Did he just basically threaten the UN guy with Thai laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 So the rapporteur has done his job by presenting reports, but now the government has made a threat to the rapporteur that he may have Brocken the very laws that he is presenting to the Thai government. Then in the next breath claims that Thai government/NCPO/junta respects and adheres to the International Convention of the rights of the people and political rights and press freedom. I wonder if the junta is familiar with the word contradiction? So junta huggers, care to explain this one? It's hard to justify the in-justifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Simply unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 What would you expect from Geobbels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I can feel another committee coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I am not holding a gun to your head....he says whilst his finger starts to twitch on the trigger and the barrel pressed on your temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 ....the foreign media is still oblivious to lack of rights of foreigners here though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Cue the "The UN doesn't understands our "unique situation,", and another 30 minute phone call from Prayuth to Ban Ki Mon explaining the situation, of which the UN President will listen for another 25 minutes wondering what the hell the man is smoking. There's nothing unique about it, you're behaving like playground bullies, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 So the govt rejects the UN representative's statement, what happened to the propaganda that everyone understands and supports etc. ? That'll be published tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The UN is useless anyway. It is nothing more than one big never ending cocktail party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 “If you are worried as mentioned in your statement, the government also feels worried too with the suitability of the expression of your personal views which may transgress on the Thai law. Nevertheless, the government is open to recommendations which are useful,” said Veerachon. Am I reading this right? Did he just basically threaten the UN guy with Thai laws? Yes, and I SO wish that the UN would call him on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partenavia Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 When you look at what is happening in the rest of the world at the moment, Thailand is pretty unimportant, so unless something gets really serious here, organisations are not going to be very interested, its not "newsworthy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom." Is that so? Well then, that's good to know. Has he read the convention? he said the government had insisted all along of the needs and reasons for the arrests and legal actions because Thailand is in the middle of transition which requires the enforcement of some rules which are not normally enforced in order to maintain peace and order. Be interesting to see what the EU enforces over the next year or so as these attacks increase, you think it will all be normal running....I don't, Thailand was seeing escalating violence on the streets (not for the first time) and dealt with it very effectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 How do you justify arrests ,legal proceedings etc to enforce law and order in the case of a couple of 8 year kids? do you have firm evidence that this actually happened, from what I have been reading it has been reported as nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom." Is that so? Well then, that's good to know. Has he read the convention? he said the government had insisted all along of the needs and reasons for the arrests and legal actions because Thailand is in the middle of transition which requires the enforcement of some rules which are not normally enforced in order to maintain peace and order. Be interesting to see what the EU enforces over the next year or so as these attacks increase, you think it will all be normal running....I don't, Thailand was seeing escalating violence on the streets (not for the first time) and dealt with it very effectively there's violence on the streets in every major city in Thailand every single night. Is it being dealt with effectively? The violence down in the South is still there after 2 years of military rule, well actually they've been under military control a LOT longer, has it been controlled effectively? You do love your cherries, as you pick them a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom." Is that so? Well then, that's good to know. Has he read the convention? he said the government had insisted all along of the needs and reasons for the arrests and legal actions because Thailand is in the middle of transition which requires the enforcement of some rules which are not normally enforced in order to maintain peace and order. Be interesting to see what the EU enforces over the next year or so as these attacks increase, you think it will all be normal running....I don't, Thailand was seeing escalating violence on the streets (not for the first time) and dealt with it very effectively there's violence on the streets in every major city in Thailand every single night. Is it being dealt with effectively? The violence down in the South is still there after 2 years of military rule, well actually they've been under military control a LOT longer, has it been controlled effectively? You do love your cherries, as you pick them a lot! lets hope it doesn't spread to the rest of the country and stays were it is, most countries in the world have their little pockets of sectarian violent terrorism.....granted some more than others and some to an extreme, lets hope Thailand doesn't become an extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 He insisted that the government still respects and adheres to the International Convention on the rights of the people and political rights, press freedom and that's why the UN rapporteur is not arrested and charged with causing worries to the government... The government only arrests worry-makers who can't fight back. Brave Sir Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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